daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 keepers ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) keepers ball. No chance!! Was a mistake by the defence! totally misjudge the flight of the ball! Edited December 6, 2007 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 keepers job to claim anything up to 10 yards from the goal line in my book, especially from that angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 keepers job to claim anything up to 10 yards from the goal line in my book, especially from that angle Most keepers would and should be coming for a free kick floated in that close to the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Most keepers would and should be coming for a free kick floated in that close to the goal. Most keepers yes! Crossley hardly the most agile of sorts is he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 but even if he misses it he can just bounce of the striker and get a free kick as so often happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) keepers job to claim anything up to 10 yards from the goal line in my book, especially from that angle Thats rubbish...... Lets rename the thread to "lets have another pop at crossely"...... It was clearly a mistake by the defender and not the keeper! He should never of got the shot in! Edited December 6, 2007 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 rename it if you want, if someone makes the same mistake all the time you dont ignore it and hope it goes away. unless of course you do do that in which case, derrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 rename it if you want, if someone makes the same mistake all the time you dont ignore it and hope it goes away. unless of course you do do that in which case, derrrr. That was never his ball! Poor defendning.....some people want to pin everything on the guy! its Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 if the area is 18 yards long then he shud be catching anything within 10 its a basic goalkeeping principle. maybe the def shud have headed it but as ive said before a keeper should forget that and just take ball, man, everything. he would have when he was 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) if the area is 18 yards long then he shud be catching anything within 10 its a basic goalkeeping principle. maybe the def shud have headed it but as ive said before a keeper should forget that and just take ball, man, everything. he would have when he was 28. It was a team effort the Luton goal... Bertrand (i think) lunged in to conceed the free kick! The Ref - Because i want to blame him for everthing. Hughes - Played everyone on side! Defence - Maybe should of been cleared Crossley- Maybe should come out for it maybe he shouldnt Davies - Has he not learnt yet to only score in the last min of either full or half time so we can have a breather. Everytime he does somethin silly like scoring this happens straight after. Me - I didnt wear my lucky pants. Oh and their number 33 for looking like elijah off emerdale(or however you spell it, the dingle one) not that i watch Emmerdale All in all there was a few very small incidents that occured which all concluded in us conceding therefor official verdict crossley = not guilty, i think you will find many keepers wouldnt have gone for it as there were defenders in the way who maybe should of done better! Edited December 6, 2007 by Davros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hughes - Played everyone on side! Finally ... was waiting for someone to mention him .... just becuase hes a legend it dosent excuse him from criticism on here guys .. I was in line with it ... and Hughes for no reason carried on running back past the defensive line and was a good 5 yards behind everyone and played the lad on ... im guessing the defence didnt clear because they thought he was offside or it was going out for a goal kick ... Hughes knew straight away what hed done .... he played awesome yes but people need to take there rose tinted glasses off and see althought Crossley takes some blame .. he dosent take all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 if thats the case then fine but it doesnt alter the fact that norm doesnt catch crosses, if hughes played people onside every week then i would be having a go at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 just becuase hes a legend WTF ?? lol My arse he is a legend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 WTF ?? lol My arse he is a legend! Legend bit far then but you know what i mean .. crowd favourite etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I aint Crossleys biggest fan, but there's no way he is at fault for that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucie_the _latic Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Thats how i feel mate, crossley isn't great, but it wasn't his fault. How can a keeper be blamed fro a free (Unchallenged) header in our own box from a free kick? Clearly when the other team has a free kick and your a defender you immediately think to yourself... 'ooh i think i might have to try and defend this ball in'. Defences fault, simple. SOUND BOUT RIGHT?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 COS ITS ON THE 6 YARD LINE FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME!!! go find a keeper and ask him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 COS ITS ON THE 6 YARD LINE FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME!!! go find a keeper and ask him.. lol..how many times do you see keepers coming out, colliding with the defender and allowing them to score when they could simply had left the defender to do his job!!...it isnt as clear cut as you think. In fact your totally wrong! And it’s a bit embarrassing that you keep arguing your right! When your actually just got a big chip on your shoulder about crossely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 lol..how many times do you see keepers coming out, colliding with the defender and allowing them to score when they could simply had left the defender to do his job!!...it isnt as clear cut as you think. In fact your totally wrong! And it’s a bit embarrassing that you keep arguing your right! When your actually just got a big chip on your shoulder about crossely! having seen the goal on virgin now, it was poor defending by all it should have been cleared in the first instance. but crossleys positioning was wrong. the ball didnt hit the corner and he should have got nearer to it, it had no power in it. are his knees bad because he cant run?, he has no spring or is it because he is to big, we need pog back asap. i know he seems to have improved by all accounts over the last few weeks, but i cant see us roaming up the table with him in the pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Whoever was marking the goalscorer was at fault; however, Crossley should definately have come for it. He also should have saved what was a weak header, even from short range. Crossley has cost us 10 points this season, Shez's biggest mistake by far sticking with that clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_OAFC Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I haven't been overly impressed with Crossley thus far but there was no way he should have been coming for that cross and he had no chance of saving the header either. Definitely down to poor defending for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 The blame on Crossley is ludicrous. There's absolutely no blame whatsoever on the keeper for that one and to suggest that EVERY ball within 10 yards of goal is the keepers is a complete joke. If you employ that 'rule' you get lots of miscommunication for balls whizzing by at 8/9/10 yards and they're either getting left or running into each other claiming it. It's an instinct thing; the defence know what balls to go for and so does the keeper. If you've ever played in goal before you'd know this. The fault was entirely on the defence on not keeping their line and also Davies for missing the header (he ducked right under it). I wasn't in line with the defence but could see that whilst most of them kept a high line (i.e. towards edge of penalty area) someone (apparently Hughes) played him onside. We switched off as a unit and it cost us. The criticism of Crossley does my head in at times. The blokes held his hands up this season and said he's had a fairly poor start but since he got back into the side he's been very good and well protected by the defence. As a UNIT we've played well and that includes the goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 to suggest that EVERY ball within 10 yards of goal is the keepers is a complete joke. If you employ that 'rule' you get lots of miscommunication for balls whizzing by at 8/9/10 yards and they're either getting left or running into each other claiming it. It's an instinct thing; the defence know what balls to go for and so does the keeper. ????? not atall mate infact the oppposite is true, if the defenders know the keeper comes for EVERYTHING then they know hes coming full stop, if they go on instinct they need to be telepathic. i accept that its not 100% crossleys fault, for a start he didnt give away the free kick, he didnt play everybody onside and he didnt miss the header so by not catching it he made the 4th error and they scored. what im saying is he doesnt catch any crosses so teams know this and aim for the 6 yard line constantly but because we have quite a good back 4 covering all areas (heading, pace, tackling, positioning, composure) we limit teams to chances which are usually free kicks and corners and they all go to the 6 yard line because when we are scouted the scout notices this weakness. this is not a chip on shoulder moment this is repeated pointing out of a weakness until people open their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 this is not a chip on shoulder moment this is repeated pointing out of a weakness until people open their eyes. No, this is constant sniping at a keeper who has let in 2 goals in 4 games, both which can't be deemed his fault per se. It's quite clearly you've never played in goal before. Even at the lowest level you shouldn't just rush around leaving your goal unguarded, hence why you have to have an understanding with your defenders about what ball to go for and what not. That's why you hear "my ball" or "keepers ball" being shouted when coming to claim. According to your theory you'd not need that because the defenders would know the keeper is coming for it. What you're trying to do is make something black and white when it isn't. Going off your theory, what happens if the keeper doesn't see a cross early enough (perhaps another player obscuring his line of sight)? It doesn't matter how fast you are, you can't cover 10 yards in a second. The bottom line is you're nitpicking at a keeper than isn't really doing too much wrong at the moment. Sure, he's been a little wobbly early in the season but he's doing OK know IMO. And obviously Shez's too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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