palmer1

7 hours ago, Flemboy said:

Like on the pitch then.

This close season needs yet another clear out. and

our contracted players to work around.

Most of the players have played as if they don't give a ukfc about the fans and club we worship.

We need  leaders with the passion our fans have both as manager and as players.and a team which bonds.

 and is not divisive.

With that we will succeed.

We must rid our club of  passengers and egoist and start again with players and a manager who show the same passion for our club.

Too all that want togetherness then you need back the current manager to bring in his own players and the chairman stops bringing players he knows who don't have any experience in the country. As RW said in his interview the way this club is run behind the scenes has to change! 

People now want to get rid of Placide???

What about all the Cruyff turns? A few more we might have survived!

2 minutes ago, League one forever said:

Maybe we should give him a 5 year contract. You know, to keep us stable. 

Let him see out his contract like Dale did with Hill as he's a great manager up of down right?

His win/point ratio keeps us up over a full season comfortable. Moimbe pulling hair and Placides errors today send us down plus other individuals over the season. 

Style rather than tactics have been an issue but individuals and circumstances have cost us.

9 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

I’ve NEVER bought this best , most talented squad thing tbh. Isn’t it rolled out every season too ? Won’t it be rolled out next also ? We’ve been terrible for years. I’d say the last time we had a decent team was Shez the first time. However I still think a half decent manager would have got us to fucking 17th 

And he would have if he'd started the season as manager.

??? 

Special mention for Connor fkn Brown who never got relegated from this shit league!

4 minutes ago, oafc_lover said:

 

If he’s been told he won’t be in charge next season then he probably has been allowed.

 

Morally though it doesn’t sit right that he’s going for another job when we have such an enormous game tomorrow. His mind should be solely fixed on getting us safe.

 

Its football though and all morals have vanished from the game.

If he's been told he is leaving then he has every right to do what he wants but for it not to hit the press is strange don't you think? He seemed certain he was building for here next season with no hint of change in his demeanour in his press conference. He may be leaving but I'd bet MK Dons aren't even interviewing at this point. 

The wages not being paid as that always break first on hete or twitter and we have enough players or staff who cant waif to tell the world when the club fucjpk up.

As for Fane that rumour broke on here first so I'd imagine he is probably injured,  AL is a smart business man so knows you can't suspend a player for being poor which is what ghe article states. That cunt of journalist working for that shit rag has put 2 and 2 together from social media  and got 9.

1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said:

Milton Keynes...

He is under contract for 2 years so the only way he could have interviews elsewhere if AL and the club allowed an approach. 

If I was Mr Wellens I'd stop reading social media because essentially he is giving reasons to  the moaning bastards who are going to moan about everything no matter what now.

They don't want reasons, legitimate of not they just want results of a new manager every year. 

The fact that the training ground is shit and along with the pitch has been flooded more than any other time in decades making training properly impossible  means nothing to them. They forget saying  Peter Clarke was finished at this level until we have injuries and then they say he should have kept him,  despite his wage probably bring 2 others which every fan was screaming for in January

30 minutes ago, Andy b said:

No point being doom and gloom. Time will tell 

tbh whatever happens in the next 2 weeks I cant wait for this season to end, its been miserable

Lg1 or Lg2 my tkt is renewed already, we have a new owner and reason to be optimistic for next season either way.

a couple of months away from Boundary Park slagging England off instead will do everyone a world of good.

3 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Doesn't seem an equal playing field to me.

You only just figured that one out? The English league is not geared towards the 'underdog'

The rich get richer while nobody gives a shit if the poor live or die...

See the government of this country for further examples.

Thinks it may have been said but id be amazed if Wellen's is in charge next season in lg1 or lg2.  No matter what your thoughts on what he has or hasn't had at his disposal this season I personally feel it will be harsh to get rid but AL will bring in someone new I feel. Mike Phelan was apparently spotted at BP last week, will he be an assistant to a new man in charge or will League 2 not be the 'right time' again?

1 hour ago, LaticsPete said:

From match report of York v Leamington last Saturday....

 

"A special mention for Connor Brown who worked himself into a good position 20 yards from goal, only for his left-footed shot to almost uproot the corner flag."

fixed that for you...

25 minutes ago, disjointed said:

You just couldn't wait to have another go at the "special mention " could you.

Coming up with that nickname was 'whipping' a player when he didnt prove himself totaly incompetent once in a while  

I miss him...

Just now, HarryBosch said:

 

You said "In fact name me any player who ive whipped that didnt turn outto be dog shit!"

 

Placide has recovered form and become pretty good again has he not?

So you think he's  'whipped' because I didnt ignore blatant errors that were costing us points? I would think it was no matter what he did he can't win and I'd keep slagging him. Has that happened? 

'whipped' was Connor Brown territory because he was total shite!

17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said:

 

Placide 

Nope!

Pointed out his mistakes when conceded poor goals, when he didn't actually stop anything for approx 8 games (can't remember exact), that cruyff turns don't win football matches, that he had great distribution, that Ripley was a better keeper imo and that he should be doing better. Of course0 you know this Harry because despite one person on Twitter taking what seems to be a personal offence for not praising him every time he fkn blinks, it's nothing but true. 

9 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

I’ve noticed his goals have you ?

Of course I'm not blind...

The below is from my original post after Blackburn, anybody want to tell me where I went wrong? As frustrating and selfish as he is we've had few weeks of consistent goals. Let's hope it continues, we need them.

'IMO he is a talented lad and given time he could be excellent for Wolves but for us I see someone who will be frustrating most of the time and other times he might 'do a Blackburn'. We need more consistency for the run in.

I dont think he will be a good partner for Doyle as he likes to keep the ball and will need a foil like Davies to play off. I also don't think he works hard enough without the ball and the goals don't keep coming fans will turn.

He doesn't run the wide channels which Byrne finds infuriating. He does head direct for goal which I love but that's not always an option'

1 hour ago, dec666 said:

Another Palmer1 whipping boy who doesn't run around enough.

What a load of bollocks! Name me one other 'whipping boy' who I've criticised for work rate. In fact name me any player who ive whipped that didnt turn outto be dog shit! My main criticism of Naz wasn't because he didn't run and it's proved to be the case with more and more fans noticing it every week. 

31 minutes ago, Ryan said:

He’s hardly gonna come out and say he hates the place, with us just being a stopgap till something better comes along. 

Most people have some kind of ‘affinity’ for their place of work and colleagues, I don’t see why that’s a reason to blindly support him if he takes us down to the fourth tier for the first time in five decades.

New flash: We're a stop gap for every player at the club! 98% wont come and watch us on a day off though. Also it isn't blind support to take all things into consideration . You may think changing manager every few months is healthy for the club and the path to success personally I don't. 

The last 2 managers who were actually given time to learn from their mistakes on the the job and actually improve? Joe Royle & Jimmy Frizzel. Now I'm aware the game has changed and social media plays to much of a roll in the a managers life span at a club but at a club like our does that seem like a coincidence?

3 hours ago, Ryan said:

He’s a Yoonited fan who fucked us off twice as a player for the irresistible Doncaster and Shrewsbury...

He didn't say he supported us, he said after 2 spells as a player he had an affinity with us. Not many of our players ever were Oldham supporters. He was spotted numerous times in the crowd while employed elsewhere.

Players will 'fuck you off' for more money and better prospects ala Doncaster or a longer contract & the promise of pay not being missed every other month ala Shrews. I'd say it worked out to be the right decision. Even avid supporters would have done the same. Unless they were a idiot of course.

33 minutes ago, League one forever said:

He left by mutual consent, he even did a video saying goodbye. 

 

 

Very different to being sacked. 

What? Every time? 

He means his 1st spell

19 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

Can't be bothered quoting your whole post, Palmer, but just a little point about Shez : we weren't exactly cut adrift when he left. We were 3 points off 20th position. Although we cannot say for certain, I am convinced he would have got us safe with ease. He only had 2 weeks working with the players he was desperate to bring in (Bryan, Doyle and Byrne) after arguing for months with Corney/Lemsagam about trying to sign in. He then went into the Rotherham game without Doyle, who got himself sent off with a stupid tackle in the Shrewsbury game, probably in frustration at himself for missing an open goal when it was 1-1 (we ended up losing 2-1).

 

However, I completely agree that the keeper problem lay firmly at the feet of Sheridan...

We were bottom of the league with 1 win and we almost blew that at Bristol. Cut adrift may be a bit strong but 3 points away from 20th would see us down. How far off safety were we? I have no record but several wins were needed from memory? He may have kept us up but it certainly looked bad and at Rovrum many accounts pointed to players giving up on him.

For the record I wanted Shez to stay also. 

And sorry Paddy if we can't mention the circumstances RW works under in this thread we certainly can't mention suspensions under Shez. 

Shez had less backing? Who brought in Byrne, Kean, Doyle? Who had the pre season to put the squad together? Shez left us this current situation cut adrift at the bottom. He worked miracles previous years but left us in the shit this time for ever reason.

Infatuated with defending the average? Its funny because all I do on here is tell people to strive for more but I don't make judgments to quick. I certainly don't go from 50/50 to 60/40 and the too all out 0/100 Wellens out in 8 pages of a thread after 2 draws and zero movement in the table where we haven't even dropped into the bottom 4 but I won't talk negativity in Oldham fans.

I can see potential in Wellens and I you think I'm deluded because I try to take all things into consideration before forming an opinion on players and managers then so be it. Ive backed my opinion against most on here many times and im generally not far off. Time will tell on this but I can say one thing for absolute certain, sacking a manager every season or in this case far less is fkn stupid and won't bring any kind of success. We've been doing it for 20 years...hows that worked out?

Funny old game...

When Shez was fired we were bottom and many thought this was our year for the drop. Wellens takes over and was tasked with having a go at keeping us up. He performed so well when he took over that his own great performance is being used as a reason to get rid of him.