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    Boundary Park buy out

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    23 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said:

     

    Id say an investment in Boundary Park the land and stadium is a better investment than the football club and is probably worth far more than the football club.....

     

    The fact that Blitz kept the land and gave up the club with ease, tells us all we need to know in that regard....

    Tranmere ‘f*cking’ Rovers FC

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    7 hours ago, 24424 said:

    Afternoon Latics.

     

    Well, what a day for us yesterday.  Very fine margins in football,  and maybe we got the rub of the green on this occasion. Right now I still feel a bit numb to be honest,  slightly in disbelief that we actually did it, and all in all, quite emotional. It's been a weird time over the past 6 years or so, but just so happy we got back in the EFL and then kicked on.

     

    Looking at Twitter today, some old threads have re-surfaced, including many from Bolton fans laughing at our relegation out of the EFL in 2015, and telling us they would never play us again. Just goes to show doesn't it - football is cyclical isn't it, and every club will have its triumphs and disasters if they wait long enough.

     

    Over the past several years, our club and [most] fans have had to learn some perspective & humility through many very hard lessons,  and with that in mind, whilst immensely proud of what we have achieved, and enjoying the moment, I know it is a brief moment in time and things can change.  We are immensely lucky to have great owners and a stable, community focussed, club right now, but who knows what the future holds...... and so it is with you lot too. OAFC may feel in the doldrums at the moment, but look how we felt five years ago.

     

    I have absolutely no doubt that we will meet again soon and renew hostilities, so until that happens, I will sign off, wish you good luck, and  maybe go for a lie down to process the implications of our last 24 hours.

     

    Football eh ..... Bloody Hell!

     

    Top post. All the best to you. After what you suffered you deserve it. I hope our time comes one day.

    Expectations For Next Season

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    On 5/20/2019 at 8:44 PM, HarryBosch said:

    ....There's always been a monopoly at the top and there always will be.

     

    ....The only difference was smaller clubs didn't publicise or bleat about their financial woes the way they do nowadays... 

     

    None of them ultimately went bump then, none of us do now... 

     

    On 5/20/2019 at 8:47 PM, Lee Sinnott said:

    Gotta agree with that...

     

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-epl-efl-league-one-two-championship-miguel-delaney-a8926126.html

    A Plan?

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    9 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

    But they've still made losses I believe. That's just transfer profit

     

    .....of course....  but the investment now - including renting out of their new stadium to London Irish, will see them become self sufficient in the near future..... and £50m profit on transfers for Brentford should not be brushed under the carpet either, it’s unbelievable trading for a club of that stature, demonstrating what can be done.

     

    Benham is a class act and a man with a proper business Plan. I live just up the road and know a few Brentford fans who give me the lo-down every now and again. They’re all so grateful he’s their owner and he one of their own.

    and Staff.

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    Posted · Edited by lookersstandandy

    19 hours ago, singe said:

    Has he got Oldham Athletic's interests at heart?
    He's got money and access to those with money though, I grant you.

     

    ....has he not accepted a position on the board because his company are employed / paid money, by Mr. Lemsagam? I.e His money and the money of those he knows / has access to, are irrelevant?

    Expectations For Next Season

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    Posted · Edited by lookersstandandy

    1 hour ago, HarryBosch said:

     

    No, it's a prediction from you about something that might happen in the future. 

     

    If you remove/ignore the prediction and look at things today, I don’t believe - unless you are one of the big 6/7 - there has been progress.

     

    1 hour ago, HarryBosch said:

     

    It happened with Huddersfield very recently.. 

     

    ...I guess you could argue Burnley too.... but the majority of those clubs gate crashing the greedy league do so from the benevolence of rich benefactors, as opposed to organically.... and as a result, are often unsustainable. See Bolton.

    Expectations For Next Season

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    1 hour ago, HarryBosch said:

    ....Back in the 80's Liverpool/United/Spurs/Everton etc... had all the money...

     

    ....but they wanted more. To be free to negotiate their own terms and to hell with the 3 leagues beneath them.... leagues they could be relegated to if they recruited poorly, or appointed the wrong manager.

     

    I reckon you could manage City to a champions league place.

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    Expectations For Next Season

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    Posted · Edited by lookersstandandy

    11 hours ago, HarryBosch said:

     

    Tesco don't subsidise Jav's Mini Market, why should United subsidise us?

     

    Clubs at our level just need to pay players less. There's always been a monopoly at the top and there always will be. Liverpool won everything when I was a kid just like City are doing now.

    The only difference was smaller clubs didn't publicise or bleat about their financial woes the way they do nowadays... 

     

    None of them ultimately went bump then, none of us do now... 

     

    11 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said:

    Gotta agree with that...

     

    ....the day the top 22 clubs - and we were one of them - voted to leave the football league and set up a separate league able to retain the vast, vast majority of money generated, was the day the gap began to widen. Now, if you agree wholeheartedly with free market economics - I’ve just watched the Thatcher documentary on BBC2 - then I agree with you both, there is nothing wrong with it.

     

    The problem is, it just perpetuates the security of the richest clubs at the top table. United, Liverpool, Spurs, City & Chelsea (numerous times) were relegated between the 60s and the 80s..... they will NEVER be relegated again.

     

    This filters down - via parachute payments, able to invest in infrastructure, with those clubs that yoyo between the top two Tiers. They acquire the potential customers of smaller clubs/businesses and mop up all the available workforce by employing hundreds of more employees than they could once afford.... so the mini-marts will NEVER be able to compete without enormous injection of funds, or without borrowing that will see them go out of business if their gamble fails.

     

    Wimbledon, Northampton, Carlisle, Luton, Oxford, us.... all teams that made it to the promised land on merit before the Premier League began, it won’t happen again.

     

    I firmly believe we will see many L1 & L2 clubs go out of business in the years to come, and both leagues will eventually end up as regional leagues again (Div 3 N & S) and probably part time.

     

    Is this progress? I’d suggest not.

    Expectations For Next Season

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    2 hours ago, HarryBosch said:

     

    Everytime one of you blows smoke up this guys arse on the back of one of his rants I always seem to immediately see contradiction... 

     

    This is a long thread bemoaning a lack of assistance, financial or otherwise, from the Fa and EFL yet in that same thread, his own same thread, he says "We are profitable and have net assets rather than liabilities."

     

    So, if he can do it, and get a small club promoted whilst doing it, why can't everyone else? Why is he saying clubs need more handouts (I think that's what he's saying?) rather than more clubs should run themselves in the manner he does? 

     

    Why is he not pushing the idea of just paying players less, or having fewer highly paid players and living within your means, like he seems to be saying Accy are...? 
     

     

     

    ....but Accy will NEVER be able to compete in the Championship, say, because a) The system is so f*cked in favour of the few and b) because he’s unwilling to gamble their very existence on trying to.

     

    His answer is fairer regulation to encourage more responsible behaviour for all, to protect what are in effect assets of community value, as opposed to capitalist companies that should expect mergers/acquisitions, to be liquidated and created at will.

     

    I marvel at the hypocrisy of some folk I know, liberals or socialists, who deplore the city, bankers, fat cats and yet celebrate the opening of their multi billion pound stadia and multi millionaire footballers without any concern for the lower league football club down the road who can’t afford the gas bill.

    Trust Letter to AL

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    Posted · Edited by lookersstandandy

    1 hour ago, jorvik_latic said:

     

    To be fair, this guy has been around for a while. One of Corney's mates I think. Maybe he's the connection between SC and AL?

     

    I am led to believe the match maker was Adam Pearson - Hull RFC owner and formerly involved with Hull City, Leeds United & Derby County, however Adam Morallee lists this as one of his cases, so Brandsmiths could easily by the common denominator.

     

    • Leeds United v The Football League (Independent Arbitral Tribunal) [2014]
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