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  1. In my opinion losing Chris Taylor would be a big blow to our chances of promotion next season. Whilst I agree with many he hasn't played in his most effective position for most of his career with us he has however done an effective job wherever he's been asked to play.

     

    He can play anywhere across midfield and in both full back positions...a mister versatile if you like, and I think he would play on his favoured right wing next season with the players we plan to bring to the club.

     

    If you look at most opposing fans websites post match, throughout the season,he is the player most fans pick out as our best performer.

     

    If Doncaster won promotion and he wanted the move then that's okay but if they take him and stay in our division then I would be gutted.

     

    I don't think some of our fans realise what a good player he is and what's more he's a true Oldham lad!!!!

     

    For me it would have to be an offer in excess of 600k, and from a championship club.

  2. That's probably the best bit of EARLY business I can ever remember at the club.

     

    Both players were being chased by a number of bigger clubs and come with a good pedigree.

     

    I can't beleive it, the season isn't even over yet and we've already got a couple of new faces.

     

    We're normally waiting until July before the action starts and hopefully means that for a change, we'll have the full squad for the season sorted before pre-season training starts.

     

    A couple more signings and we'll be ready to give it a real go, I think this shift in direction by the club should be applauded!!!

  3. So why was it used as an excuse last year?

     

    You would have to be offering top money to sign players so early in the close season. Contracts usually finish in June and players will hold for the best deal and who can blame them!!

     

    I would be surprised if we were to sign Fleming from Gretna so early, unless its a deal he can't refuse.

     

    Until confirmed by the O.S I would take all rumours for what they are...just rumours!!

  4. THE only way to increase fanbase and get bums on seats is to have success on the pitch.

     

    We've had TWO relegations and more or less 12 crap/mediocre seasons in a boring, predictable division.

     

    People are bored stiff of crap football in a crap stadium.... what did the owners expect!!!!

     

    On a cold Tuesday night....Man U v Inter on telly for nowt or Oldham v Bournemouth...enough said!!!!

     

    Simon Corney's rant about the fans is true....we are a fickle lot, but the timing of the outburst couldn't have been worse!!!

     

    They have spent a lot of money over the last few seasons and are entitled to a return on their considerable investement, however, the team managers should have done much better with the players we have available.

     

    It is up to the manager to get the best from the players...something that hasn't happened since TTA arrived.

     

    Next season is an important one for the club and more so for for John Sheridan.

     

    One good promotion season is all it will take to help get the club back on it's feet but sadly the longer this barren run continues the worse the situation will get!!!!!

  5. In the early 1970's Manchester United where relegated from the old First Division.

     

    Their football was poor.

     

    Their crowds?

     

    Less than 20k, a quarter of what they get now.

     

    The answer?

     

    Attractive and succesful football.

     

    Dont know where you've dug those figures up from...under 20,000????? Their average crowd in 74/75 in the old 2nd division was about 50,000 and I think when we played at Old Trafford that season the crowd was around 56,000!!!!

  6. yep,he could...

     

    then again, he could be now be in our first team now banging them in,and serious cash offers being thrown at us.

    never know now.

    :(

     

    It's a fine balancing act, to keep or sell, but if we can get 250k now and sell ons or extra's based on appearances then I don't think a club in our position has much of a choice!!

  7. I see Huckerby may be getting released by Norwich. Not sure we could meet his wage demands but if Lids goes........

     

    ......hmm, on second thoughts maybe my sights are set a bit too high.

    Patrik Berger anyone? :wink:

     

    If the money could be found then he or Croft are the type of players we will need to get out of this division. We took a massive gamble on Ricketts which failed, and were reportedly interested in Berger and even though it never materialised it does show that the TTA have the ambition and the backing for the right players.

     

    What I don't want to see is Sheridan dithering about with a week to go before the opener......let's get our targets in early and show we mean business!

     

    I don't think the likes of Huckerby would represent too big a gamble and a major signing of that type could just be an extra boost to our season ticket sales.

     

    Could it be that the reason for the lack of a Bradford/Huddersfield type season ticket offer means that we're looking at other ways to bring in the fans.....you never know!!!!

  8. so whats the main objective of this club-getting out of this division or selling home grown kids to just keep going?

    theres a 2 way look to this situation-i agree £250 grand is a nice amount,but if the scum want him now,make them pay huge time now-add ons to tranfers are all well and good,but it can work against us.

    just because its gonna pay with richards doesn't mean it'll pay again and again.

    for every ultra success like richards,i'll show you loads more who just drifted back to obsurity.

     

    "For every ultra success like Richards, I'll show you loads more who just drifted back to obscurity"

     

    Unfortunately,that is exactly why a club like ourselves has to sell. If we got 20,000 in the ground every week then we wouldn't have to sell are young talent...we just have to treat it as another income stream.

     

    A Promising player at 16 doesn't mean to say at 21 he'll be worth millions. Teams like Man U can buy players like that every week and if they don't quite make it at premier level then we get them back....probably for nowt!

     

    We got 250k from Everton for Spencer and you've never heard his name mentioned since.

     

    If he had stayed here he could have ended up like Wolfenden who's probably about to be released.

     

    If this Leta guy does go to OT then we'll have raked in £750,000 in 3 seasons...alot of other clubs would love a youth conveyor belt like ours and a greater fear is that with his record, Tony Philliskirk could also be poached sooner rather than later.

  9. of course having decent back up players makes the squad more solid,but the thing is in this day and age players dont want to warm a bench and always think they are better than what they actually are.so therefor clubs invariably end up putting kids on the bench.

     

    i would offer him a 12 month deal,and if we did sign a better class of player use him from the bench.i just dont think he warrants another big deal.......same goes for gary mac as well in my opinion

     

    I agree, as Shez has said on many occasions Mcdonald is a model pro, Liddell encourages and talks to the kids and they are good players to have around the club, but to get out of this division we need consistent players who can do the business ON the pitch week in week out.

     

    Mcdonald on the bench for me, and Liddell would be a squad player at best.

     

    If we don't get the 3 or 4 quality players needed to add to this squad then we'll be in the same situation come next May.

     

    I know it's hard to get top players to this club on our budget but we need that midfield playmaker and/or another winger.

     

    We have to really have a go next season.

     

    We simply have to be challenging by Christmas time otherwise it's going to be very very difficult to keep the likes of Davies and Hughes at the club during the transfer window.

  10. Bit of a contentious one this but that's why we are all here to have a good debate.

     

    It is my opinion and that is all so no grief please, that i don't think Shez will be here for the start of next season, i truly hope i am wrong.

     

    I just sense that his frustration with the lack of support and ambition from the board is starting to get him down. His hands are tied and i don't think he is all that happy about having to field so many youngsters even if it is standing us and them in good stead.

     

    How many times this season have we heard that the players we are after want too much money etc, it always comes from Shez but i think it is filtered down form the board that basically they are not prepared to fund new signings mid-season. We will see if the same applies in the post and close season.

     

    What happened to the Trotman money, we have brought in the usual loan players in and that is it, it is the same story with the board and i worry that either Shez will walk or the "3 amigos!!!" will lose patience with a manager ultimately more ambtious than them.

     

    I have no doubt we will bring players in but at what price, i reckon at least 4 experienced 1st team players will depart and in the long run we will be no closer to what we want and i dont think Shez will stand for it.

     

    Lack of support and ambition from the board????

     

    Do not understand that statement at all, Without throwing money away I don't think he could have a more supportive board!

  11. The Leeds court hearing on the points deduction is any time soon...is it possible they may lose their case and be deducted more points by the league for contesting the decision.

     

    If that were to be the case, after last nights results the season is definitely not over!!

  12. There's a fair few on this site not happy with the season ticket prices and I too thought they may have done something radical, however I don't think a Huddersfield type scheme would work here at Boundary Park.

     

    Even if they had filled the ground (10,000 home) with season ticket holders you'd have had a shortfall of about 500k.

     

    TTA have been subsidising this club for 5 years and had to buy the ground as well.

     

    The geezer at Huddersfield has only just arrived and they are looking for a short sharp fix.

     

    I want promotion next season and we have to pay a little extra for success then so be it, Bradford had 12/13000 every game but ended up mid table.

     

    If we go up next year all the hype surrounding season tickets will be forgotten!!!

     

    What would you rather have...£5 a game or promotion?

  13. after speaking to Robin at the Tranmere game (granted this was a while back) I was under the impression the Lookers would be coming down around November time.

     

    obviously this contradicts what you are saying Paul so I maybe wrong, but if Robin was correct, how feasable would it be to house the away fans in the Lookers, up until it gets demolished. Hopefully we will have played one or two big teams by November, and it would also leave the entire RRE for home fans. like i said I dont know how possible this would be but its an idea

     

    Pretty sure the Lookers will not be used again after the last home game...even if it is November like you say, you've still got safety certificates to consider and there will probably be some sort of preparation required before the demolition can take place.

     

    I think you can safely condem the stand to the history books come May.

  14. Motivation isn't a problem against Everton and Leeds, the fact they were playing at Goodison and Elland Road was enough.

     

    It's games against lesser opposition where we tend to struggle and that's where your motivational skills are most needed.

     

    Consistency has been a big problem this season and you really don't know which team is going to turn up.

     

    If we don't sort it out, next season will be just the same.

  15. Although injuries have played their part, we have had another hugely dissapointing season once again.

     

     

    I think we have to do something radical to get the interest of the supporters back as there a lot of fans drifting away from the club, so,

     

     

    1) We could offer a season ticket initiative...like Stoke..Port Vale..Bradford.

     

     

    2) We could gamble on signing an ex premiership star like a Paul Scholes or a Teddy Sheringham.

     

     

    3) We could bring in a director of football like ... Joe Royle or Ron Atkinson.

     

     

    4) We could change the manager....Bristol C with Gary Johnson, M K Dons with Paul Ince, and Swansea with Roberto Martinez, have all turned their respective clubs around in one

    season.

     

     

    5) We could sit back and do nothing different.

     

     

     

    Personally I'd keep Shez for one more season and hope it all comes good, however we've had high expectations for the last 4 seasons and so far it hasn't happened and many of the fans are growing tired of all the false dawns.

     

    Any of 1,2, or 3 would be my choice.

     

    What's the general opinion....any other ideas?

  16. There is no point in me and you banding about figures which basically are nothing more than guestimates.

     

    You can make all the calculations you want, but you nor me know the precise details of the accounts at BP.

     

    What we do know is that if we currently have 3,500 season ticket holders then we would have to sell double that number to generate the same amount of income selling season tickets at half-price. But what if these additional season tickets mean our pay on the day income decreases I hear you say. Ok, we factor this in and try to sell slightly more than double the amount of season tickets - this along with increased match-day sales, merchandise sales throughout the season, car parking, lotto, extras sponsorship should cover this loss of income from pay-on-the-dayers that some of you think will happen.

     

    A scheme like this can work. The season tickets will have to be cheap as chips i.e Bradford prices and we will obviously have to sell a certain amount - whether we can reach the required target nobody knows until we try. Are we scared of trying ?

     

    I'm with you YD on this ...we simply have to try something new. If you go to a match with a couple of kids you feel like you've bin mugged just to get in and are reluctant to spend anymore inside the ground.

     

    If we can get more fans to commit to a season ticket then they will definitely spend more on the day. We also have to get Bars in every stand and capitalise on the extra punters.

     

    People are getting bored at Boundary Park and are leaving in droves, and it's partly due to a lack of excitement.

     

    The atmosphere in a full stadium, eg. Huddersfield in the cup is so much better.

     

    The whole matchday experience would be better.

     

    Nobody wants to sit in a half empty stadium and if we can do it on the pitch as well, next season could be brilliant!

  17. Although the housing market has stagnated their is still a huge market for affordable housing for eg. first time buyers, to get on the property ladder.

     

    If the housing built is at the right price then there won't be a problem!

     

    TTA won't have gone in to this blind and I think, will have other options to fall back on.

  18. Another thing which was discussed was the Bradford ticketing policy for this season which offered big reductions if over a certain number of people signed up. Simon Corney said that this was something which they would love to do but he didn't believe for a second that we'd get more than 4500 to sign up which would probably be even less if they set the original price higher than this season in order to reduce it drastically.

     

    He went on to say that even if they did manage to get 4500 to sign up this would deny the club it's 1500 walk up punters who provide the clubs only real income/cashflow over the course of a season. He said if they thought they could do it and secure anything like 7/8000 ST holders, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

     

    How can we be so sure that it wouldn't generate the required number....if we don't try we will never know.

     

    Bradford had the bottle to try something new and it worked!

     

    From my own personal point of view I can only get to 1/2 the games due to shift work but if the season ticket was priced at say £200 I'd definitely get one as I could afford to miss a few games and not be out of pocket.

     

    I may also be tempted to book time off work to attend games I wouldn't normally go to.

     

    They have to do something next season to get fans, especially the young kids, through the turnstiles...it's not just the match ticket when you add the car park and a programme your talking £26 and that's without food or drink....Throw in a couple of kids and it's beyond the reach of a lot of fans and far too much in my opinion.

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