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Kevin Betsy's debut goal was decent...

Curled into the top corner, yes?

 

My 24 year old daughter , a latics fanatic .....says we made it all up , none of it really happened , clever editing ,CGI , etc .....can't blame her the drivel served up for the last 18 years.

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I'm 26, and a part of me still thinks these stories are just an elaborate practical joke being played by all the 30+ Latics fans.

It's an interesting thought. Would we accept the benevolent dictatorship model that an owner/manager would entail?

 

In a football world where results and money are so important surely even a properly racist owner would still interview a black candidate he thought might bring him success?

 

If former high ranking coppers can move heaven & earth to sign convicted rapists......

My suspicion is that it's not a case of chairmen/owners thinking "I don't want to employ him because he's black", but more a case of an ingrained distrust of other races/people who are different, possibly because these owners/chairmen are from an older, more ignorant generation.

It's just a suspicion though, because as you say surely nobody would spite themselves in the name of bigotry.

 

I don't doubt it's gone on in the past and maybe it went on a lot but, nowadays I'd be amazed if an applicants skin colour even entered the head of more than 2 or 3 of the 92 owners.

 

On the one hand, as long as it's aswell as our actual chosen candidates not instead of, I don't see the harm in us, or any other club, having to interview a quota of black applicants but - which one(s)? And who decides which ones? And how? Will they take it in turns? What if 10 black players retire each summer and want to go on "the list" - does the excellent candidate who almost got the job at his last interview have to go to the back of the queue and never get an interview again?

Where does the sought after, well respected black manager who would have definitely got an interview anyway fit in? Does he take the place of the non-outstanding candidate the rule was designed to give a leg up to? Will he be asked not to apply for the next job up because it's not his turn?

 

There's nothing positive about discrimination.....

There wouldn't be a list, surely. My understanding is that if a number of black candidates applied then some of them would have to be interviewed. Whether this is just a minimum of one or a percentage of those that apply I don't know, but I can't imagine you'd have to register as an Out of Work Black manager, it would be open to any black man (or woman) applying.

As for finding it difficult to believe that people would let this issue cloud their judgement...I find it difficult to believe there was a white supremacist rally in Manchester on Saturday, There was though.

Aren't we forgetting the huge advantage our plastic pitch gave us back in the day!

That was overplayed. We had a fantastic away record.

Does it? Arsenal regularly get 60,000. United get 76,000, likes of Palace, Spurs, West Ham are regularly full...

The aim of the protest isn't to reduce attendances. Reports in the media recently seem to suggest that clubs are taking these protests seriously and looking at their pricing structures. Admittedly nothing at all has happened yet, but if the clubs are indeed looking at making changes then the campaign is working.

In principle I agree that boycotting games would be more effective, but even then I think the bigger clubs will have little trouble finding people to fill the seats the protesters leave behind.

They're not going to drop the prices whilst people are still paying them...

Well there is that. Although it does appear to be working.

The protests lose their meaning for me when the main protestors are the ones who are in Stadiums after paying the prices that they are so vociferous against...

Surely you're entitled to protest if you feel you're being overcharged? Why should they miss out whilst they do it? You don't have to be a martyr to make a protest.

I can't watch this at work, so I don't know what exactly he says about his coaching career, but as an applicant it could be illuminating:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/mar/27/winston-bogarde-chelsea-prevented-me-from-leaving-video-interview

I'm guessing that the word "subscribers" has been redefined

To and from what?

 

More "properly" famous than some no mark on BBC or ITV being foisted upon 8 million lemmings who'll watch whatever they're told to on a Saturday teatime in many respects......

Exactly, I was trying to explain this to my parents recently when Zoella was on the Bake Off. 7.6m subscribers! That's pretty famous in my book.

Ohhhhh internet famous. Riiiiiiight.

Internet famous is properly famous. The internet is quite a popular tool these days.

Maybe he doesn't count as he was only a loanee, but Lee Grant is easily the best 'keeper I've seen in a Latics shirt since I started watching (also circa 2000).

Didn't realise what a good position Dale had got themselves in (kind of dropped off the interest level in the table recently).

 

8th with 2 games in hand on most above them, and one against a team in bad form and ravaged by injuries.

Hopefully they'll hold back against us in order to be fresh and ready to take advantage of those poor sods.

Joe Cooper, vs Shrewsbury, April 2013

Danny Gosset, vs Orient, April 2013

Glenn Belezika, vs Yeovil, April 2013 (although he'd been at another club before)

Chris Sutherland, vs Notts County, January 2013

 

And more beyond that. Bembo-Leta, etc.

Didn't Truelove play that game against Orient as well?

If we need 3 points to stay up on the last day of the season I'll show my arse on the Town Hall steps. Pyongyang Town Hall.

It's not about Johnson, it's about not caring about Johnson, which is showing indifference and pointing out that the Club is what matters.

But if we really didn't care we wouldn't be singing about him!

The 'We don't care about Johnson.....All we care about is OAFC' chant was sung passionately at Vale - it will sound amazing, and surely lift the players, if everyone joins in.

I'm not sure singing about Johnson is the best way to show indifference to him...

However it's still good. It'd make a good regular chant with some modification though, omitting the Johnson reference.

Off the top of my head: "We don't care about glory, we don't care about fame..."

Think the FA had only just allowed clubs to start playing on Fridays again, probably just an effect of that

Again? Why were they stopped?

Andy Ritchie's got unfinished business as Latics manager - was very harshly sacked - and has gotten a team promoted from this division before.

Very true, and what he did here he did with barely two buttons to rub together. I'd love to see him back.

I loved them both, but I'm a little more wary of Sheridan's abrasive personality.

 

Suprised he can step down... I heard he broke his leg once

Did you know he was a professional footballer?

I'd be satisfied with a point tonight, so going off the injury situation that Holden has stated my team would be:

 

Kean

 

B Wilson

Dieng

J Wilson

Brown

 

Kelly

 

Poleon

Winchester

Jones

Forte

 

Wilkinson

 

Keeping it tight for the first 15/20 minutes is crucial, hopefully Poleon and Forte play more advanced as the game goes on.

You're an optimist. Keeping it tight for the first three minutes would satisfy me.

What was the Adam Johnson question?