Worcester Owl
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On 3/26/2024 at 6:09 AM, Lee Sinnott said:
I'm not sure which thread it belongs on, but the goalscoring return from our defenders is pitiful. I think Hogan is the only one to have chipped in this season and he's only got one...
Completely agree, I was thinking the same only the other day.
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4 hours ago, yarddog73 said:
It's interesting you use that example. One I like to use is this, given the successful business Frank has built and as an example, he may well have the best sales person in the game but a real shortage of drivers to deliver his cabins, do you think as a business they'd bring someone else in on the sales team, he's a great lad and a top seller he just wants a move nearer to his roots in the North West, he's expensive as well and will eat in to that transport budget leaving little to fill the positions needed. It's never going to happen is it in any other walk of life, money just isn't going to be squandered like that yet we seem to be hemorrhaging it at an alarming rate of knots, now that doesn't affect me directly but it makes no sense at all on any level. Chesterfield as the example have a very balanced squad players like Colclough and Berry were brought in to compliment players they already had and they recruited in key areas - not because someone was too good to turn down, we've got to be smarter because as a business we are behaving dumb and that unfortunately is half the problem.
How long have Chesterfield spent in the NL?
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7 hours ago, nzlatic said:
You've picked Chesterfield as the one example to refute what I was saying but that is the exception rather than the rule given how far clear they are at the top.
One of the main problems I have with trying to have an online discussion about a complex matter is when things get reduced down to a simple point to try and argue against. I did not in any way say it was the "fans fault" nor was I "blaming the fans". The point I was making was that it will not help hurling abuse at players for having a bad game. I don't think anyone could argue that it would help. I mean I even specifically said that wasn't my point in a follow up post. I also said that I acknowledge that I understand frustrations and that I don't know what the answer is. If I thought the answer was fans needed to stop booing then that would suggest that I thought I did know what the answer is.
I don't think the fans will stop no matter what I or anyone else think about those sort of things being a possible a contributing factor to our problems, it isn't going to change. So it's 100% on the club to try and sort that out.
I think what happens is people see things in different ways. I think we're all fed up of our lot. Decades of relentless shite, yet still turning up in the hope that we're going to see something good at last. Then the Rothwells come in and we can finally see some light. But it isn't happening quickly and I think thats where fans diverge. Some are clearly furious that it's taking longer than they think it should. Others are a bit more relaxed about it. Each group probably winding the other up for thinking differently!
My personal feeling is that we were about as low as a club gets without going bust less than 2 years ago. We have novice football club owners (yet very experienced and successful local business people who care), a relatively inexperienced CEO and we started off with a novice 1st team manager. All trying to build a club up from rock bottom. Things will go wrong and they did, starting with the Unsworth appointment. We've now got a proper, experienced winner in one of the key positions yet he's only actually been there a few months.
This season, we're likely to either go up (least likely option) or we'll make the play offs or just miss out. That is progression. It may not feel like it or be as much progression as some would expect, but it's still progression. And it will be our best finishing position (relative to the leauge we're in) for nearly 20 years. This is all stuff to build from, not to be absolutely furious about. That's the bit I don't get - how many people just seem to be in a permanent state of fury about it all. I'm frustrated as anyone else when we have an inexplicable bad game, usually after a good one, but if you were to have said to me in the summer of 2022 that our first season would see us mid table, our second season would see us in or around the play offs and that we'd be going into the third season with a multiple promotion winning manager a few months into the job and some of the top players we have in the squad, then I'd have been thinking that would be a decent rate of progess. What that means on a match to match basis though is a level of inconsistency until we're a team that's pushing for the title. It means drawing or losing games we should be winning. It means players having off days. We've had too many of those recently, but it doesn't mean the whole club has gone to shit.
Unfortunately, turning around a business is not as easy as just injecting some cash, or playing 442, or putting a youth player in the team. I don't expect us to be winning the league by March next season, but I expect us to be consistently top 3. That'd be more progress.
Top, top post as somebody previously said.
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16 hours ago, TheBigDog said:
What are you going on about? If you were there today then surely you saw what I saw - namely another shocking performance where too many individuals simply do not display the most basic skills: we could not trap the ball, hold on to the ball, pass to a team mate - it was back to aimless lumping the ball forward with no skill or thought. Even average footballers should be able to do the simple things.
Once again they let the fans and themselves down - and they deserved the derision they got as they walked off.
I am disappointed and angry at another woeful display - this dross is being served up far too often and I am heartily sick of it.
Mellon looks at a loss as to why and his post match excuses are wearing thin.
You’re entitled to your view, especially after making the effort to trek out to Dagenham. We all feel let down by below par performances. I’m merely pointing out that this squad has flattered to deceive many times this season and so I find it odd when people get apoplectic with rage when another disappointing result comes along. It is what it is. Instead of hurling abuse fans need to get behind the team for what remains of the season and let’s see what happens. Let’s face it, if we are as bad as some on here claim, the fact we are 9th and in a battle for a play off spot tells you this league is rubbish. Our squad is limited in ability and fight, but instead of laying into them, get behind them. If we don’t go up, the close season will see changes and then we go again in August.
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A testicle be to go up via the play offs and no mistake .
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On 3/21/2024 at 11:46 AM, Worcester Owl said:
Looking at the last 5 46 game seasons, the team finishing 7th had the following points:
16/17 75
17/18 73
18/19 74
20/21 69
22/23 71
I'll stick my neck out and say we'll get the following results:
Dagenham - draw
Fylde - win
Altrincham - draw
Rochdale - draw
Halifax - draw
Oxford - win
Wealdstone - win
That would give us 72 points, so let's hope @Monty Burns is right! It's going to be incredibly tight. We don't lose many, which is a plus, but we have been drawing too many also. The Rochdale game looks pretty crucial actually, and like any local derby is impossible to predict. If we lose that, it's probably curtains, even though it would only knock us down to 71 points. Of course none of the above takes any account of what other teams do!
I had Dagenham down as a draw. I don’t particularly care about performances at this stage, only points matter. There are limp rags on here who either blub about another terrible performance, or get off in their delight at same - you know who you are - but I remain confident that we will end with 72 points. Whether that will be enough, who knows. Why said limp rags expect this fairly average squad to suddenly produce promotion form at the business end of the season is a mystery.
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On 3/22/2024 at 8:45 AM, Dave_Og said:
I'd be 100% certain that we are the only club to actually lose the required FCA permissions. They were lost because of a failure to file routine returns compounded by a subsequent failure to even respond to the regulator resulting in the club being declared not fit and proper.
Yes, sounds like woeful negligence/stupidity on the part of the Lemsagam regime - what a surprise. That said, we are clearly not the usual financial services outfit. I shudder at the memory of how bureaucratic the FCA could be, but you would think that a letter from the board to them pointing out the change of regime, with examples of how much better the current set up and ownership are, followed by polite persistence, might eventually get those permissions back.
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4 hours ago, Dave_Og said:
It's largely craft beer places selling weirdly flavoured rubbish that tastes vaguely interesting for the first sip, and then you come to your senses and go somewhere that sells beer flavoured beer
It's a funny thing about craft beer - there are some I genuinely like and will drink for far longer than is probably good for me, like Neck Oil or Brewdog IPA. But I do find generally that one can taste pretty much like another, I've always thought I'd have no chance of telling them apart in a blind tasting. It's probably an age thing and I'm becoming a dinosaur, but for me there is a lot more variety in real ales - good and not so good! I do think it's great that so many microbreweries have popped up all over the world in the last decade or two, there's far more choice now than in my misspent youth.
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3 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said:
He's got half a point, I reckon...
Half as many as we got, then.
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11 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:
Why bother ? The beer will be flat. Queues massive. Expensive. And Bermondsey is a shit hole. You’ll have a terrible time from minute one.
I expect to see a post calling for the resignation of all the landlords of all the pubs visited.
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Looking at the last 5 46 game seasons, the team finishing 7th had the following points:
16/17 75
17/18 73
18/19 74
20/21 69
22/23 71
I'll stick my neck out and say we'll get the following results:
Dagenham - draw
Fylde - win
Altrincham - draw
Rochdale - draw
Halifax - draw
Oxford - win
Wealdstone - win
That would give us 72 points, so let's hope @Monty Burns is right! It's going to be incredibly tight. We don't lose many, which is a plus, but we have been drawing too many also. The Rochdale game looks pretty crucial actually, and like any local derby is impossible to predict. If we lose that, it's probably curtains, even though it would only knock us down to 71 points. Of course none of the above takes any account of what other teams do!
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53 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:
And in a team that unbelievably finished 2nd highest goal scorers and was only pipped for top spot on the very last game of the season.
What a strange season that was!!
It certainly was - we managed to lose 15 out of 23 home games in the league that season, finished with 20 home points and 34 away.
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2 minutes ago, Boyyou said:
Looks like we'll need to win at Halifax and Alty
4-1 now. Chesterfield are well-nigh mathematically certain to be champions given the difference between their goal difference and Barnet's. Maybe they couldn't get motivated tonight therefore. It can't be helped, we can't and don't need to rely on other teams to get a play-off position.
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48 minutes ago, JoeP said:
I mean if ever the writers of Partridge are looking for new material...
Speak to my agent!
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3 hours ago, JoeP said:
Yes I remember reading that Armando Ianucci and/or the writers wanted a city that was some way from London and felt isolated.
My brother lives in Norwich - it's a fine city but definitely a slog for me to get to, even after they improved the A14 a few years ago.
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1 hour ago, Dave_Og said:
Can't imagine why anyone would be a fan just because they came from the same area. That would be like saying two Latics fans could never fall out...
Not really! Opinions on Latics are generally way stronger and more heartfelt than being a fan of Steve Coogan or another artist I'd say. It can be depressing when as fans we verbally beat each other up on here, but I guess it would be a boring world if everybody felt the same way.
Come to think of it though, I never did rate Tommy Booth.......
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11 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:
Can't imagine why anyone would be a fan just because they came from the same area. That would be like saying two Latics fans could never fall out...
Pride in a local boy made good etc. He's had a stellar career and good luck to him.
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17 minutes ago, oafcmetty said:
Since about 2007 we've only topped 8k fans at two games - Dorking at home (the Frank game) and Hudds in the FA Cup.
13 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:And Kidderminster...
And Liverpool....and Everton....
OK unlikely to be many Scousers if we get to Wembley but I still think we'll get a decent turnout including day trippers.
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8 hours ago, JohnnyPimp said:
Soz for continuing the Alan Partridge off-topic, but I do like this local reference.
Yes, as he's from my neck of the woods I should be a big fan but Alan Partridge never did it for me I'm afraid. However when he does the serious stuff he is a superb actor - Stan and Ollie, and The Reckoning, to name but two. He was amazingly good as Stan Laurel, and to take on the role that he did in The Reckoning was courageous to say the least.
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2 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:
Ffs as in OAFC don’t consider selecting him again ?
We are doing our very best as a fan base (appreciate it’s one fan this time) to ruin this period having him as a striker.
Let’s go back to Luamba and Chris Porter up top hey…
I suspect Norwood means don’t consider him for MOTM again, rather than selection!
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2 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:
Play like that and they can beat anyone. Unfortunately, we all know a different team could show up next week
Yep, it’s frustrating that we haven’t been beaten in the two league games against the runaway leaders and champions-elect, and could actually have won both of them. Got to reproduce that level of effort and skill over the last seven games now.
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Putting @GKing521's surprising pessimism (
) to one side, of the 7 games left only two (Altrincham and Rochdale, both derbies 
) SHOULD be potential banana skins on paper.
Unfortunately, we ain't playing on paper.
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19 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:
Thanks. Not me, my mum
Ah ok. Hope she'll be ok.
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Micky Mellon Sack Watch
in The opinions4u Terraces - Latics Forum
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Yes I thought the Belgium game was highly entertaining. Some of England’s attacking play was as good as I’ve seen in a long time. Mainoo is such a prospect, unbelievable maturity at 18. As for Bellingham, you run out of superlatives, though he did miss a couple of sitters (for him) before he rescued the draw. Bowen and Foden were also excellent. Defence will probably be our Achilles heel at the Euros, but if we can stop the silly mistakes we have an excellent chance of winning the tournament.