Londonboy

Sorry but...

9 points behind 4th place after 7 games

18th in the table

1 win in 7

Worst disciplinary record in the league

Outplayed again

Never looked like winning even with 2 gifted goals by their keeper

Can't wait to hear him post match!

Unsworth OUT!!

Love the Gateshead keeper

1 minute ago, kowenicki said:

Marvellous. 

Get ready for 30 mins of 4 5 1 dross football trying to cling onto a point

1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

Unsurprisingly some people struggling with a simple Yes or No answer, I'm happy for people to put Yes if they want to give Unsworth more time.

 

My intention was to just get a feeling on something which is quite basic really, I'm not arguing with those who want to keep him but it appears even some of those who have said Yes have done so even with reservations so the result on the face of it could look even worse.

 

It's not loaded it is to gauge where the fan base is at, I haven't over complicated it purposely and if anything given the way the question is structured expect more to give Unsworth the benefit of the doubt.

 

If anyone wants to pick holes in it set up an alternative question, it's a simple process, mine is purely to gauge feeling and probably best not over analysed. 

What do you mean by " a simple process?" this could be taken in many ways and mean a lot of different things, as on what level of simple is a simple process? very simple or not very simple??.....and what do you mean by "over analysed?" what is actualy over analysis and by how much do you need to analyse before you over analyse???

Please Yarddog be more specific with your poll questons ffs....

And we wondered where McGahey had been for the past 12 months......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66597000

Just now, Londonboy said:

Lol

 

He'd be a cracking appointment though if they get him

Just now, Dave_Og said:

   I've gt an excuse - the 'o' buttn n my laptp is knackered!

Lol

41 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

Darren More favourite for the York job.  Would be a bit of a coup to get a manager who got promotion from L1 last season.

The ultimate OWTB accolade...having your name misspelt

14 hours ago, Steve_R said:

That’s pretty much as I see it. The next five home games are Dorking, York, Oxford City , Maidenhead and Dagenham. We should be winning all those, especially as we’ve lost two at home already, or picking up a decent points haul at least.

Gateshead on Saturday could be tricky, as they had our number last season and are a better footballing side than we are(alarming really given our resources compared to theirs).

After that we have Bromley, Kidderminster and Wealdstone so there’s points to be had there.

Any manager should be able to pull us away from where we are, and once we move up the table the ‘x amount of points of the playoffs’ lads will be out so he’ll be safe for a while.

We need to be going for the very top in my opinion, but if he can weather this storm and have us hanging around seventh place I don’t see him going anywhere.

I think despite the current anti Unsworth tidal wave, we all want the team to succeed and get us out of this league. 

I really hope we can pick up 4/5 wins in September and move into the top 7 as our run of games is as easy as its going to get.

Even if we do this, it wont change my mind on the manager being the wrong guy to take us to where we need to be as ive seen and heard enough over the past 12 months to make up my mind, but it will at least bring some much needed positivity and belief to the fan base.

I've been quite vocal on giving him until the end of September (13 games) to show that he can get us to challenge at the top of the table, and if he can then we know it will stay as it is on the manager front.

Kidderminster and Weadstone away at the end of September will be pivotal, as not winning at places like this will leave him with no more excuses, if we have any hope of going up.

I just hope that if things don't go as well as exected in September the board smell the coffee and don't bottle it.

2 hours ago, b0ndl1ne said:

John Rooney is signing for Macclesfield today

Seems like the end of the road had come a while ago for Rooney with us, but I think it's rather sad.

Clearly a gifted and tallented player, who has showed at previous clubs he can run the game from the middle of the park if given the opportunity and make things happen.....which is exactly what we are missing.

My view is the tactics Unsworth has used over the past year, and his inability to allow the likes of Rooney, and Vaughan to a lesser extent to show their creative flair in the final third of the pitch, have put us where we are today with a slow, ponderous and crablike midfield who create next to nothing.

From what I've seen, with a motivated and on it Rooney, Norwood could be in double figures by now and we would be looking down not up at the table.

Quote from the pundits after Rangers getting knocked out of CL last night.

Probably not that different from where we are to be honest, but the book stops with the manager as he brought in the players.

"We are at the back end of August; these guys should be starting to show why they were brought to the team," said Sportsound pundit and former Rangers forward Neil McCann.

"It's probably the fault of the players that they're not doing it yet, but Michael has to nail down a formation and say: 'Right, these are the guys I'm choosing and this is how I'm going to play.'"

"A manager's dream is a team that picks itself," added McCann's former Ibrox team-mate Steven Thompson. "Right now, Beale doesn't know his best team and it's going to take a while to work that out.

"It's a lottery at the minute and it's a problem he's going to need to work out quickly because in the meantime, there are massive, massive games coming up."

3 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

And you haven't given this season  what I'd class as "a period". So when you have, then start looking to point fingers

Your struggling here mcfluff!!

LightDN is winning the debate hands down !!

If you want to change something that's clearly not working within your organisation, one of the first things you need to do is identify what and who is responsible.

Generally that person tends to be someone higher up the organisation and a leader.

Yes you can debate if that person has had the resources required (yes 100%) and enough time (a year now so ??) to effect things, and there will always be some sort of mitigation ie. When he came in the club was in dire straights.

However in a results driven business the book stops with the person responsible for delivering...or not delivering in this case, and that my friend is our manager.

You can't be blaming individuals or bad luck (should have, would have mentality) all of the time which is what he and you are doing 

Ref at Boreham Wood was also just poor all round as have been most I have seen in this league to date.

There is no agenda against us, it's the same for both teams.

We have to just stop giving refs the easy decisions to make like Fondop.

I'd expect it all to even out by the end of the season...it usually does.

I'm more concerned with the manager and our general lack of a game plan we can execute than the refs tbh. 

@Matt@Andy, hand on heart and honest answer....and the answer can't be you trust the process/owner, or how much it will cost to sack him etc ...

If your in charge do you honestly believe Unsworth is the man to take us back up? 

Simple answer Yes or No?

1 hour ago, rudemedic said:

30 from 17 is 81 points over a season thats only 6 points more than my target of 75. It is still currently achievable.

 

We got 29 points from the last 17 games last season, with an inferior squad.

 

He does need to start replicating that form soon though.

I admire your loyalty.....but he needs to go mate.

19 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

The ultimate OWTB accolade, having your name misspelt.

I don't think he'll lose much sleep over it

After Gateshead next weekend we play the teams currently in 17th 18th 19th 22nd and 23rd.

He will I think be given until after these games before a decision is made.

Getting a few wins here may help save him, but it doesn't mean he's improving and he can take us forward.. It just means they as bad as we are, and we have  better players than them.

We need to bin him now.

1 hour ago, rudemedic said:

I was indifferent on keeping him after Halifax at home last season. I'm still indifferent now. But because I'm willing to give him a bit more time I want to keep him? I wouldn't care if he was sacked tonight, the same applied in early February.

 

I was just pointing out the fallacy of giving a manager a whole pre-season and then sacking him after X games, some of which are probably going to be our toughest games of the season. I stick by my logic that he needs 35 points after 23 games. He could have been 6 out of 6 and still need 35 points after 23 games. If he isn't getting 35 points after 23 games I move away from indifference.

I thought we agreed that 75 pts at least would be needed so 38 after 23 games being more realistic to squeeze into the playoffs?

So just the 33pts from 17.

Seems a million miles away....

On 8/13/2023 at 4:01 PM, rudemedic said:

 

Curious if your views have now changed?

Come on rudemedic.....surely YOUR VIEW to keep him must now be up for review....???

36 minutes ago, peanuts2 said:

York manager gone no hanging about giving him "time" 

Got to be done if you can see it not working and there is no real chance of any improvement. Eastleigh manager sacked Saturday after a poor start to the season.

Another bad day for Oldham Athletic FC.

Another home defeat.

Another nil in the goals for column.

Another sending off. 

I've made my points quite clear on what I believe Unsworth and co's inadequacies are in other threads, and today just solidifies the view that he has to go before the season becomes a right off.

To change half the side after being "absolutely delighted" with a clean sheet on Saturday, and after in his words a near perfect display at Chesterfield was nonsensical.

Changing the whole front 3 was absolutely nonsensical. Only Kurt who lasted 60 mins at Chesterfield had started a game all season prior to today, and Reid had played 9 minutes to date I think.

Not stating with at least Norwood up front...our marquee signing and top goal scorer was nonsensical.

Playing the Shelton/Sheron crabs together AGAIN at home was nonsensical.

He clearly is way out of his depth, and for over a year now I genuinely have not seen any improvement in his management abilitity or in game management.

He may be a great bloke and I've never made any personal attack on him, but it's not doing the club, the supporters or his own well being any good, him continuing  in a job he's just not cut out to do.

Please.....do the right thing Frank and make a change now, as it's going to get a lot worse I think if he remains in charge.

UNSWORTH OUT/WILD IN.

25 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

Mods, please feel free to merge if/when @Bender does his usual pre match post.

 

Given Unsworth's comments about the fixture schedule, I expect us to make a number of changes today. All 5 subs from Saturday could feasibly play, as well as Tollitt. All of them should be more than capable of handling themselves.

 

I watched Solihull on Friday. They can easily be got at, the pace of Reid should worry them. We are due a win, they are due a defeat. Oldham victory...

I'd be amazed if he starts Reid!

However I'm amazed at most things Unsworth says and does so you never know!

1 hour ago, rudemedic said:

No it is not a different scenario. 

 

Fans cannot be on his back and then demand he comes over and clap them. Life doesn't work like that.

 

If we had won yesterday I doubt the fans would have been on his back as much. So he may well have come over.

 

I thought we were professional yesterday against a side well fancied to do well this season having done well last season. I think the last Oldham I enjoyed was the 5-1 win at Dorking, or the 3-2 wins against Eastleigh and Dorking last season.

 

I don't expect to enjoy Oldham games, but I do expect to see reasoning in the tactics and the like. I saw that yesterday. You can sometimes have both, but I'd rather have the second one if it's a choice of one or the other.

Not sure you were at the same game as most posters on this thread!

"We were professional" ?.At what?

You saw "reasoning in the tactics"? What tactics??

I'd love to know!!

Well Eastleigh have started the sack the manager ball rolling by sacked their manager Lee Bradbury after drawing 3 and losing 2 of their first 5 games...

13 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

Someone turns up at your work, saying your work is shit, are you going to go out of your way to applaud them at the end of your day?

 

No, you aren't.

 

The police / head of safety might have had a word in his ear too.

 

Fans can't expect to chant "Your football is shit", "Get out of our club" and more and then DEMAND the same man comes over and applauds them. It is as disingenuous and deluded as some of his statements to the media.

Totally different scenario.

If the players can come over for a quick acknowledgment then so can Unsworth. 

He'd be over if we'd won no doubt ...

Take it you enjoyed yesterday.?

I didn't. We were crap! Again!