Guest oa_exile Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Wonder what they call rednecks? Who you mean Bubba and TeeBob ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Wonder what they call rednecks? Rednecks love being rednecks these days. On a similar theme, I read a supposedly serious article the other day by some academic tart who was saying that the term, "chav," should be banned as it denigrates working class people. How very offensive to working class people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 It's old Army nicknames isn't it? Anyone called White would be Chalky, hence the irony of calling a black feller it. Unless I'm still drunk and making things up. You probably are still drunk and making things up never the less drunk and correct on this occasion ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 You probably are still drunk and making things up never the less drunk and correct on this occasion ;-) Excellent! That calls for a beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) actually it was chalkie not choccy - but it is all a throw back to another era!!!! I mean the pc brigade do create issues but we can't seriously condone some of the old style racism - remember hostile leeds or rangers throwing bananas at mark walters - there's no place for any of it within an educated society It wasn't Rangers fans who threw bananas at Walters - it was the vast majority of neathandarls at Celtc. Mark Walters is an ambassador and an absoulte legend for Rangers. During his debut for Rangers at Celtcs home ground, he was subjected to the worst racial abuse in British Sporting history. He was booed and monkey chants came from the celtc support, every time he touched the ball Evidence of the abuse Walters got from Celtc fans (booos everytime he touched the ball from Celtic fans, and throwing bananas at him). Edited August 3, 2008 by slurms mckenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I was going to say this for a laugh,Grovesy wasnt Black, Half caste,mixed race or qiuarter caste!!!! Car Valentine was the first non white player I can remember. Wasn't Chalkie (great player - i loved him) mixed race? That's why he was called chalkie wasn't it? The world has changed, thankfully in cases like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 In them gud ol days Valentine was effectionately known as 'Chocky Valentine' and no one batted an eyelid least of all Valentine I'd wager. The world's gone madly soft in my view. it was chalky valentine ,not chocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernica Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) It wasn't Rangers fans who threw bananas at Walters - it was the vast majority of neathandarls at Celtc. Mark Walters is an ambassador and an absoulte legend for Rangers. During his debut for Rangers at Celtcs home ground, he was subjected to the worst racial abuse in British Sporting history. He was booed and monkey chants came from the celtc support, every time he touched the ball Evidence of the abuse Walters got from Celtc fans (booos everytime he touched the ball from Celtic fans, and throwing bananas at him). What's a 'neathandarl' you cretin? Walters would have got a similar reception if he was in a Celtic shirt at Ibrox. Don't kid yourself. Those were awful times. Thankfully some of us have moved on. Some haven't and still disgrace their country at every opportunity. Edited August 3, 2008 by Guernica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Yes Bob....it's been covered and hands held up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 It wasn't Rangers fans who threw bananas at Walters - it was the vast majority of neathandarls at Celtc. Mark Walters is an ambassador and an absoulte legend for Rangers. During his debut for Rangers at Celtcs home ground, he was subjected to the worst racial abuse in British Sporting history. He was booed and monkey chants came from the celtc support, every time he touched the ball Evidence of the abuse Walters got from Celtc fans (booos everytime he touched the ball from Celtic fans, and throwing bananas at him). Don't you think "vast majority" is overdoing it a little? There was some disgraceful banana throwing, but even on the video you supply as evidence there is a load of booing when Walters gets his first touch as a Hun, and quite rightly so, and very little that I could hear afterwards. He was also abused by his own supporters. I have been told that it was Rangers' cousins in Edinburgh who gave him the worst stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernica Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Don't you think "vast majority" is overdoing it a little? There was some disgraceful banana throwing, but even on the video you supply as evidence there is a load of booing when Walters gets his first touch as a Hun, and quite rightly so, and very little that I could hear afterwards. He was also abused by his own supporters. I have been told that it was Rangers' cousins in Edinburgh who gave him the worst stick. That Henrik Larsson copped a load of stick at Parkhead as well. They really hated him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 That Henrik Larsson copped a load of stick at Parkhead as well. They really hated him. He did smash dozens of fantastic goals against them though. Maybe that was why. Although it doesn't account for the horrific abuse Bobo Balde received from them every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 i always thought at the time as a kid,he was called chalky cause he always seemed to have "chalk" or lime from the pitch markings all over him during games,but most noticably in his hair! i hope thats the reason anyway! Lol Johnny...I never had you down as that naive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 By the way, you're all wrong...the answer to the original question is obvious! Can't believe you've all missed it! The answer is of course....Paul Black! Ok...I'll get mi coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Wasn't Chalkie (great player - i loved him) mixed race? That's why he was called chalkie wasn't it? The world has changed, thankfully in cases like this. The world of TV used to have popular programmes such as these: Love Thy Neighbour 'Til Death Us Do Part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhXpmozpbE By highlighting prejudice and bigotry which were openly commonplace, we have reached today's more balanced view of the many skins which go to make up the onion world in which we live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 It wasn't Rangers fans who threw bananas at Walters - it was the vast majority of neathandarls at Celtc. Mark Walters is an ambassador and an absoulte legend for Rangers. During his debut for Rangers at Celtcs home ground, he was subjected to the worst racial abuse in British Sporting history. He was booed and monkey chants came from the celtc support, every time he touched the ball Evidence of the abuse Walters got from Celtc fans (booos everytime he touched the ball from Celtic fans, and throwing bananas at him). Actually it was just vrap typing I mean't whilst at Rangers and got distracted....apologies for any confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobxal Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 From what I can remember chalkie wasnt a canadian international when he played for us. He became one because he left us for vancouver whitecaps and gained canadian nationality in later years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 From what I can remember chalkie wasnt a canadian international when he played for us. He became one because he left us for vancouver whitecaps and gained canadian nationality in later years off top of my fading mind,you are indeed correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 From what I can remember chalkie wasnt a canadian international when he played for us. He became one because he left us for vancouver whitecaps and gained canadian nationality in later years He was from Gorton and emigrated. Don't blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oa_exile Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 >>Where Are They Now?<< Carl Valentine (1976-80) started as a 17 year old with the Latics, and the exciting young winger caught the eye of Vancouver Whitecaps' Tony Waiters, who signed him to help spark the club to a thrilling defeat of the New York Cosmos on their way to the club's first NASL championship. After a successful stint back in England with the West Brom Baggies, Carl returned to Canada and played for his new country (he became a citizen in 1983) in 1986, setting up the two Canadian goals on corner kicks to defeat Honduras 2-1 and move Canada for the first time ever into the finals of the World Cup. He was a solid performer for the Vancouver 86ers, scoring the first ever goal for the club, and sinking the first goal in the 1988 final during their powerhouse years as reigning CSL champions from 1988 to 1992, when he retired as a full time player. Carl continued as the Vancouver 86ers' player manager, retiring in 1999. Since then he has been coaching youth soccer in North Vancouver, helping to bring a new approach to youth soccer on the North Shore that combines professional coaching with a holistic approach to young athletes. Carl Valentine was elected to the Canadian Soccer League's Player Hall of Fame in 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 He was from Gorton and emigrated. Don't blame him. I hope you aren't being racist against Gortonians? Actually, I don't blame him either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I hope you aren't being racist against Gortonians? The Texas court system reports that there are plenty of Canadians in Gorton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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