Diego_Sideburns Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 The late Brian Clough O.B.E. (Old Big 'Ead) was immortalised today in the form of a bronze statue, unveiled by hs wife Barbara. Video of the unveiling: http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/sitemap/s...loughstatue.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 The late Brian Clough O.B.E. (Old Big 'Ead) was immortalised today in the form of a bronze statue, unveiled by hs wife Barbara. Video of the unveiling: http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/sitemap/s...loughstatue.htm Let's hope that ESDC take similar action and erect a statue of Nigel in the market place. Next to the one of Paddy & Shane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 His was an interesting autobiography. He had an absolutely PHENOMENAL goalscoring record as a player - it betters his managerial record!! Boro - 213 appearances, 197 goals. Sunderland - 61 appearances, 54 goals Eat your heart out Alan Shearer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 He was also an exceptionally unpleasant human being, but that's skipped over because he was a, "character." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 He was also an exceptionally unpleasant human being, but that's skipped over because he was a, "character." Who? Shearer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Who? Shearer? No, Shearer isn't a character either, he's a dull arrogant :censored:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidCollinge Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 He was also an exceptionally unpleasant human being, but that's skipped over because he was a, "character." Sounds like Roy (spit) Keane........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 He was also an exceptionally unpleasant human being, but that's skipped over because he was a, "character." Sorry, for a second there I thought you were talking about Roy Keane, who was never a minute's trouble when managed by Cloughie. By the way, did you ever have dealings with him, to have formed your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sounds like Roy (spit) Keane........ Yes, because nobody ever slags Keane off, do they?! Not that there’s anything wrong with sort of behaviour, but a mate of mine grew up very close to Clough. The neighbours kept a sort of unofficial watch for him beneath the local hedges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Let's hope that ESDC take similar action and erect a statue of Nigel in the market place. Next to the one of Paddy & Shane. Cloughie on Clough: http://www.brianclough.com/burton.htm The mighty Brewers go top of the League if they win the next match. P.S. It's ESBC now, as we bcame a Borough some years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 No, Shearer isn't a character either, he's a dull arrogant :censored:. Lees.....you haven't fallen victim to the old OWTB have you? I actually really like Shearer. Great player, loyal, down to earth, tough, determind, made the most of his natural ability, got the better of Keane, knocked back United twice and did well for England. As for him being dull he was apparently quite the joker around his clubs. A classic prank of his includes filling Jason Wilcox's BMW convertable up with soil and planting a small tree in it. It's unfair to judge his character from his media work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sorry, for a second there I thought you were talking about Roy Keane, who was never a minute's trouble when managed by Cloughie. By the way, did you ever have dealings with him, to have formed your opinion? I never had the pleasure. It’s pretty much a matter of record that he regularly beat up his subordinates at work in bouts of alcoholic rage. But he was a character, so that’s OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 I never had the pleasure. It’s pretty much a matter of record that he regularly beat up his subordinates at work in bouts of alcoholic rage. But he was a character, so that’s OK. No doubt you'll be adding your hearsay observation to his Wikipedia page, which seems to have missed that aspect of his alcoholic dark side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 He had an absolutely PHENOMENAL goalscoring record as a player - Boro - 213 appearances, 197 goals. There is also a statue of him in 'Boro and the Derby fans are trying to get one at Pride Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 No doubt you'll be adding your hearsay observation to his Wikipedia page, which seems to have missed that aspect of his alcoholic dark side. Are you serious Snr S? You’ve only mentioned one of his employees in your posts, and it’s on the record that Clough punched him the ground for no reason other than bad luck to be the first one he saw when he came through the door. Just because he came from an era when that sort of thing went on more often doesn’t make it right. And the Wiki site – written by a fan methinks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 if there is life after death and cloughie could see that, he will be laughing at the ':censored:houses'. anyone with a modicum of sense/ memory/ respect for clough knows that he didnt want a statue outside the ground. at least thats what he always claimed anyways, so, small credit for not putting it at trent bridge. BUT head shaking at derby fans. i tip my hat to thee who mentions the golscoring record, absolutely phenominal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Are you serious Snr S? You’ve only mentioned one of his employees in your posts, and it’s on the record that Clough punched him the ground for no reason other than bad luck to be the first one he saw when he came through the door. Just because he came from an era when that sort of thing went on more often doesn’t make it right. And the Wiki site – written by a fan methinks.. I would imagine that living and/or working with an alcoholic must be hell. An employer can demand loyalty from employees but has to earn their respect. What amazes me is that, for an alcoholic with so much 'character', his employees (excluding Justin Fashanu) showed so much respect to him both when they were his subordinates and to his name even now. Regarding the Wiki site, it includes plenty of 'warts' but feel free to add anything to balance the assessment of someone regarded as more of a football genious than even Ronnie Moore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 if there is life after death and cloughie could see that, he will be laughing at the ':censored:houses'. anyone with a modicum of sense/ memory/ respect for clough knows that he didnt want a statue outside the ground. at least thats what he always claimed anyways, so, small credit for not putting it at trent bridge. BUT head shaking at derby fans. i tip my hat to thee who mentions the golscoring record, absolutely phenominal. Of course he would be laughing, just like he probably laughed at the 'daft buggers' who paid respects to him at the Pride Park memorial service. But that's just the point, you don't erect a statue because that's what the recipient wanted - you do it to show current and future generations that the man had the respect of the people of 'Boro, Nottingham and, if people get their way, at the other end of the A52 'Brian Clough Way' in Derby. Meanwhile he's probably pointing to Ernie as the example to all the others he is managing up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 What amazes me is that, for an alcoholic with so much 'character', his employees (excluding Justin Fashanu) showed so much respect to him in case he punched them to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neiladamsheadband Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) bloody legend no characters in football today anywhere near like him, ferguson and the rest of the bloody premiership toss pots dould take s long hard look - please god dont make that :censored:hole any more gruesome to go to if they put a statue of Taggart outside it Edited November 7, 2008 by neiladamsheadband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 ... please god dont make that :censored:hole any more gruesome to go to if they put a statue of Taggart outside it Apparently they're having great difficulty finding a sculptor who can replicate that blind cobbler's thumb-shaped nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Are you serious Snr S? Youve only mentioned one of his employees in your posts, and its on the record that Clough punched him the ground for no reason other than bad luck to be the first one he saw when he came through the door. Just because he came from an era when that sort of thing went on more often doesnt make it right. And the Wiki site - written by a fan methinks... I can't get the Clough thing either. I thought I was on my own, but clearly not. He got results by knocking people around; a mouthy git who's drunken bullying has been described as "bringing colour to the game", reckon that's true if the colours were black and blue. Justin Fashanu left Nottingham quick sharp, we can't ask him why now of course, however there is speculation and I think I can guess... Not everyone can buy into the Legend crap, I suppose people have to understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I wouldn't mind hearing of Shez cracking a few heads lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 I wouldn't mind hearing of Shez cracking a few heads lately. Shez wasn't at the City Ground long enough to learn a lot from "Old Big 'Ead" as Cloughie sacked him after one game. I don't know whether the reason for the sacking is documented anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Shez wasn't at the City Ground long enough to learn a lot from "Old Big 'Ead" as Cloughie sacked him after one game. I don't know whether the reason for the sacking is documented anywhere. the only thing ive read on it is shez who says it was 'the strangest part of my career' Edited November 10, 2008 by daznathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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