Zorrro Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 No you may not Johnny, but there are other fans who still try to play the postcode card and the "its not part of oldham" card. That's nonsense. No one has mentioned postcodes for a very long time. And even if they did, they'd have a point. As for all this accuracy bollocks... well, it's just that. Bollocks. They all consider themselves Mancs down that neck of the woods. Stop kidding yourselves. They don't give a toss about Oldham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 +1!!!! "But..but...its got a manchester postcode, so it hasto be part of manchester...." Regardless of whether people consider themselves to be mancunians or oldhamers, Failsworth is within the boundaries of Oldham, and comes under Oldham Council, end of story. The sooner this postcode argument is knocked on the head the better. Do Bury complain that they have a Bolton Postcode? Do Rochdale, Bacup, Rawenstall, and half of Tameside complain because they have an Oldham postcode, Southport, the small town/pensioners paradise on the coast of merseyside where poor scouse kids go for their holidays, has a PR postcode, does that make it a Preston club? Answers are no, no and no. Who has mentioned the postcode on here in months? Who are you actually quoting? Who actually cares what the postcode is apart from yourself? Postcodes as are comparisons are irrelevant. Failsworth is Manchester, live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 That's nonsense. No one has mentioned postcodes for a very long time. And even if they did, they'd have a point. As for all this accuracy bollocks... well, it's just that. Bollocks. They all consider themselves Mancs down that neck of the woods. Stop kidding yourselves. They don't give a toss about Oldham. Well then, I hope that it mildly irks them to have Oldham Athletic's ground on their doorsteps. I suspect that it isn't so much of a big deal for the average Failsworthian as it is for some on here. There's a few inferiority complexes working overdrive I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I doubt it will irk them at all. They won't even notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 That's nonsense. No one has mentioned postcodes for a very long time. And even if they did, they'd have a point. As for all this accuracy bollocks... well, it's just that. Bollocks. They all consider themselves Mancs down that neck of the woods. Stop kidding yourselves. They don't give a toss about Oldham. Spent the first 4 years of my life less than a minute from the proposed site, on Victoria Street Failsworth (google map it to see just how close it is) and then the next 14 years a 5 minute walk away just off Lord Lane. I then moved to Uni. I am as born and bread Failsworth as it's possible to be I'd say and I'd say I'm from Oldham and introduced myself as from "Oldham, just outside Manchester" to every person I met around the world on a ten month trip. You can't just use a single brushstroke to colour in an intricate artwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I can, however, use my own experiences. For every Ackey there are 10 self-proclaimed Mancs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I can, however, use my own experiences. For every Ackey there are 10 self-proclaimed Mancs. That may be true, but it negates the overly negative "all mancs" attitude you and many others are so fearful of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I can, however, use my own experiences. For every Ackey there are 10 people who don't give much of a toss Much like Royton, or Chadderton, or the Other Place then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Staying in Oldham, not going to Manchester. Manchester has 2 clubs. Oldham has 1. It has to stay that way. Failsworth is a town in Lancashire and also part of the Oldham borough for the last 35 years. It's not a suburb of Manchester. Say YES to Failsworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 That may be true, but it negates the overly negative "all mancs" attitude you and many others are so fearful of. You know as well as I do that saying "all" was for effect. I stand by my claim that the vast majority of people from Failsworth feel no affinity towards Oldham. At least the people of Royton, Chadderton and the Other Place do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You know as well as I do that saying "all" was for effect. I stand by my claim that the vast majority of people from Failsworth feel no affinity towards Oldham. At least the people of Royton, Chadderton and the Other Place do. They're still United and City fans though. Simple fact is that Failsworth offers an opportunity to provide a better off field product to present Latics fans, as a result making it easier to attract future Latics fans when they know they will be able to sit in dry comfortable conditions where they can purchase pies and drinks without giant queues or having to be in "the right stand" to buy beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You know as well as I do that saying "all" was for effect. I stand by my claim that the vast majority of people from Failsworth feel no affinity towards Oldham. At least the people of Royton, Chadderton and the Other Place do. I feel absolutely zero affinity to 'Oldham' as a town, and i have lived on the oldham/manchester border all my life. My affinity is attached to the football club, not the town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Who has mentioned the postcode on here in months? Who are you actually quoting? Who actually cares what the postcode is apart from yourself? Postcodes as are comparisons are irrelevant. Failsworth is Manchester, live with it. Even if it is (which it isn't) mate, it really wouldn't bother me. If it's in the Metropoliton Borough of Oldham it's enough as far as I can see, so what if it's on the border of Manchester. The people banging the drum about how Mancunian Failsworth is just have no forward thinking about how the place will be in two or three generations time when by then Failsworth will not have even been a part of Manchester for over 70 years. I'm all for pride about Oldham and that, but all the crap about stopping supporting the club if they play in Failsworth, to be honest the club are better without fans of that ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUNGFOO Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I feel absolutely zero affinity to 'Oldham' as a town, and i have lived on the oldham/manchester border all my life. My affinity is attached to the football club, not the town +3500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Even if it is (which it isn't) mate, it really wouldn't bother me. If it's in the Metropoliton Borough of Oldham it's enough as far as I can see, so what if it's on the border of Manchester. The people banging the drum about how Mancunian Failsworth is just have no forward thinking about how the place will be in two or three generations time when by then Failsworth will not have even been a part of Manchester for over 70 years. I'm all for pride about Oldham and that, but all the crap about stopping supporting the club if they play in Failsworth, to be honest the club are better without fans of that ilk. agree 100 % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'm all for pride about Oldham and that, but all the crap about stopping supporting the club if they play in Failsworth, to be honest the club are better without fans of that ilk. i don't think you know how deep that opinion is to some fans, jamie... is the club quite willing to abandon them so easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 is the club quite willing to abandon them so easily? Are they willing to abandon the club so easilly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Are they willing to abandon the club so easilly? its already happening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 its already happening... So they're so intrinsically linked to their small town mentality they'd abandon the club they love BEFORE it's even moved. Proposals have come and gone for new stadia for years now, if this was to fall by the way side would they come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 So they're so intrinsically linked to their small town mentality they'd abandon the club they love BEFORE it's even moved. Proposals have come and gone for new stadia for years now, if this was to fall by the way side would they come back? i'd say its a mixture of things.. impending move out of traditional supporters area crap football lousy performances run down stadium not value for money being stuck in this division sure there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 i'd say its a mixture of things.. impending move out of traditional supporters area crap football lousy performances run down stadium not value for money being stuck in this division sure there are others. Those things I can accept, and can be overcome. It's this archaic small town mentality of a line on the map being the deciding factor which gets my blood boiling. If we're offering a better facility from which to offer a product that's step one of many. It's not a definitive answer, just one of a progression of things which need to happen and the steadfast refusal to accept it from many just highlights their embarrassingly narrow view of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Those things I can accept, and can be overcome. It's this archaic small town mentality of a line on the map being the deciding factor which gets my blood boiling. If we're offering a better facility from which to offer a product that's step one of many. It's not a definitive answer, just one of a progression of things which need to happen and the steadfast refusal to accept it from many just highlights their embarrassingly narrow view of the world. Here here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I can't see me moving to Failsworth. I want Boundary Park to be re-developed like we were promised. I walked from the Town Hall to Boundary Park to help the owners get this, but feel betrayed that the decison to move the club has been done, finalised and made - including a deal with the council - before they have considered what the fans want. I have the destinct feeling that decisions have been made on the premise that "once we hit the last hardcore of fans, we can't lose any more of them" and I dont think it is true. I very much doubt I will get a Season Ticket next year - I'll still do a fair number of away games, and am not giving up completely yet, but the way I feel about the club, the ownership and the future........I feel that I am on the wain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Those things I can accept, and can be overcome. It's this archaic small town mentality of a line on the map being the deciding factor which gets my blood boiling. If we're offering a better facility from which to offer a product that's step one of many. It's not a definitive answer, just one of a progression of things which need to happen and the steadfast refusal to accept it from many just highlights their embarrassingly narrow view of the world. agree, but its got to be recognised by TTA that starting a new season in a spanking new stadium in the 4th division isn't going to get those seats filled. the remedy for that forthcoming event starts with every game we have this season,and beyond. ..and thats how i'm sure most of the drift aways see things ATM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 i'd say its a mixture of things.. impending move out of traditional supporters area crap football lousy performances run down stadium not value for money being stuck in this division sure there are others. I also think you are right JP, but just not in that order Crap position in the league crap football lousy performances not value for money being stuck in this division run down stadium All of which are overcomable with a bit of luck and the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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