oafcprozac Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...-open-lee-talks Encouraging... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...-open-lee-talks Encouraging... aye PD said that on Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...-open-lee-talks Encouraging... along with keeping mvoto and tounkara after this season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yes PD sounded positive that Lee would re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yes PD sounded positive that Lee would re-sign. and was impressed he took a cut last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) If we're in the position to offer out contracts, I wonder where we are regarding offering the management team longer term deals? Admittedly it's early days in the management career of Dickov and Taggart, but surely if we're looking to keep the likes of Tonk and M'voto for next year, we should be thinking about securing their services too. Edited December 13, 2010 by JoeP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 and was impressed he took a cut last time Lee has shown its not all about the money previously aswell - he rejected QPR to come here (they certainly would have offered more than we did) because he wanted to stay in the north-west.. which is good news for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 If we're in the position to offer out contracts, I wonder where we are regarding offering the management team longer term deals? Admittedly it's early days in the management career of Dickov and Taggart, but surely if we're looking to keep the likes of Tonk and M'voto for next year, we should be thinking about securing their services too. Isn't their contracts one year rolling? So it just continues for another year..? Not to sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Isn't their contracts one year rolling? So it just continues for another year..? Not to sure Not sure, either. Surely that means either the club or PD/GT could bring an end to the agreement at the end of the year? While the players have been fantastic, it's the management team that have been the glue to bring it all together. I would hope there's some guarentee in place that they would be here before we start signing players for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Not sure, either. Surely that means either the club or PD/GT could bring an end to the agreement at the end of the year? While the players have been fantastic, it's the management team that have been the glue to bring it all together. I would hope there's some guarentee in place that they would be here before we start signing players for next year. rolling contracts i do believe,so that the club or the gaffer are tied un necessarily to a contract if things go tits up.... most of the players have come here because of the gaffer...the owner isnt daft and if we do manage to get anywhere near playoffs or promotion i fully expect a decent contract offered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robboman Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I know lee personally & his girlfriend is a hardcore latics fan. Hopefully she wears the trousers and he wouldnt even entertain EVER leaving latics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I know lee personally & his girlfriend is a hardcore latics fan. Hopefully she wears the trousers and he wouldnt even entertain EVER leaving latics! I think Lee hopes she doesnt wear her trousers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Isn't their contracts one year rolling? So it just continues for another year..? Not to sure PD and JT are on a one year rolling contract. The definition of a ‘rolling contract’ is; ‘a contract that continues automatically until someone decides to end it’. In our case we should hope that the financial package for PD and JT is an attractive one, for rookies, with improvements to it as it rolls. These improvements may not always be publicised. They have certainly delivered up to now. Like any contract it will be a mine field. Too much should not be read into it in any case. More often than not these days, the law of the jungle applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 PD and JT are on a one year rolling contract. The definition of a ‘rolling contract’ is; ‘a contract that continues automatically until someone decides to end it’. In our case we should hope that the financial package for PD and JT is an attractive one, for rookies, with improvements to it as it rolls. These improvements may not always be publicised. They have certainly delivered up to now. Like any contract it will be a mine field. Too much should not be read into it in any case. More often than not these days, the law of the jungle applies. John Terry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartzatart Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) . Edited December 14, 2010 by smartzatart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 "Red devil begins talks with Latics": http://www.givemefootball.com/league-one/r...lks-with-latics Kieran Lee, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 . MMMMMMMMMMMMM Thought better of it Martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 "Red devil begins talks with Latics": http://www.givemefootball.com/league-one/r...lks-with-latics Kieran Lee, of course! The former Manchester United trainee has risen to prominence since being brought into the first team on a regular basis following injuries last season. After signing a new one-year deal before the start of the season, the 22-year-old now looks set to earn a longer-term deal. "We are talking to Kieran at the moment regarding a new deal," Dickov told the Oldham Chronicle. "Kieran has been absolutely fantastic for us. Not many people realise it, but he actually took a pay cut to stay at the club this season." I think it means "The former Manchester United trainee has risen to prominence since being brought into the first team on a regular basis following Dave Penneys inability to see a talented young player even it hit him square up the arse" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I think it means "The former Manchester United trainee has risen to prominence since being brought into the first team on a regular basis following Dave Penneys inability to see a talented young player even it hit him square up the arse" Wasn't it Dave Penney who gave Lee his breakthrough? Last season he made 24 appearances. In contrast the season before where he only made 6. Think you have your wires crossed with Shez. He signed both Lee and Stephens and didn't want to bother with either. It was Penney who gave them both a real crack of the whip to impress and earn their places in the team. Both are turning out to be good assets for the club. I think Penney earns a bit of credit for that. Edited December 15, 2010 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wasn't it Dave Penney who gave Lee his breakthrough? Last season he made 24 appearances. In contrast the season before where he only made 6. Think you have your wires crossed with Shez. He signed both Lee and Stephens and didn't want to bother with either. It was Penney who gave them both a real crack of the whip to impress and earn their places in the team. Both are turning out to be good assets for the club. I think Penney earns a bit of credit for that. Probably just let my hate for Penney get in the way , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wasn't it Dave Penney who gave Lee his breakthrough? Last season he made 24 appearances. In contrast the season before where he only made 6. Think you have your wires crossed with Shez. He signed both Lee and Stephens and didn't want to bother with either. It was Penney who gave them both a real crack of the whip to impress and earn their places in the team. Both are turning out to be good assets for the club. I think Penney earns a bit of credit for that. that may be true but he only put them in because there was nobody else with all the injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I think Penney earns a bit of credit for that. Injuries. Penney was desperate and two half-decent players took their chance. It's actually less than a year since Lee had a pretty poor game as a right back at Hartlepool. I remember saying then "this lad will never make a good full back". Not quite as inspired as my suggestion to "give Pieterson a bowl" in the last test! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Okay, so if you accept he had an injury crisis on his hands then you accept that he is not mostly to blame for last season and that he did pretty well to keep us up given the injuries we sustained. You can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The best bit from the previous message is Penney was desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wasn't it Dave Penney who gave Lee his breakthrough? Last season he made 24 appearances. In contrast the season before where he only made 6. Think you have your wires crossed with Shez. He signed both Lee and Stephens and didn't want to bother with either. It was Penney who gave them both a real crack of the whip to impress and earn their places in the team. Both are turning out to be good assets for the club. I think Penney earns a bit of credit for that. Injuries. In case you forgot, DP put Lee on loan list because he told him he had no future here. Okay, so if you accept he had an injury crisis on his hands then you accept that he is not mostly to blame for last season and that he did pretty well to keep us up given the injuries we sustained. You can't have it both ways. Injuries sustained from his training methods. And in fact, the players who helped mostly keep us up were signed by Shez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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