BP1960 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Thought we might have heard a bit more from this Kelly considering it looks like he's going to be captain. I know he was 8th choice at Bristol City but still... Both B Wilson and Kelly need to up the ante. Never thought I'd say it, but Connor Brown looked captain material, he was constantly urging on his team mates - and led by example. Edited July 19, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Dayton was decent. People need to look at JCH very lazy and didn't look interested JCH is never going to Succeed up top on his own. He lacks the experience to play in defenders and he works better playing off someone who can do that in my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 All three did well IMO, in contrast I thought B Wilson, Kelly and Forte were average, with JCH looking lethargic as he did against Newcastle. Good performances from Kusunga, J Wilson and Jones (with his skills he needs to play much further forward). For me B Wilson has added nothing to the team, and Brown would be ahead of him for that right back slot when Mills returns to left back. JCH needs to show much more interest, Gros has performed better so far. We are very strong at centre back, even so I would snap up Llera. Forte took a knock in the first half. Agree about B Wilson and Brown, Brown has looked the better player so far. Kusunga has looked a different player so far, more like the one we expected when first signed. Not been that impressed with Kelly and Jones, although Jones was better today than against Newcastle. Been more impressed with Mellor and Winchester in CM so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Forte took a knock in the first half. Agree about B Wilson and Brown, Brown has looked the better player so far. Kusunga has looked a different player so far, more like the one we expected when first signed. Not been that impressed with Kelly and Jones, although Jones was better today than against Newcastle. Been more impressed with Mellor and Winchester in CM so far. Jones has probably the best close control we have seen from a Latics player in many a year and his distribution is excellent, however he is wasted as a defensive midfielder and he needs to pay much further forward prompting and probing to make best use of his skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Jones has probably the best close control we have seen from a Latics player in many a year and his distribution is excellent, however he is wasted as a defensive midfielder and he needs to pay much further forward prompting and probing to make best use of his skills. Don't often disagree with you BP but I'm not having it that Jones close control is better than Winchesters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Don't often disagree with you BP but I'm not having it that Jones close control is better than Winchesters Think Jones shades it under pressure, he's a bit stronger on the ball IMO. Edited July 19, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Both B Wilson and Kelly need to up the ante. Never thought I'd say it, but Connor Brown looked captain material, he was constantly urging on his team mates - and led by example. Agreed. I like Connor. He didnt start his latics career that well, but he has come on leaps and bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I reckon LJ has told JCH to conserve his energy more and not chase hopeful balls. He has the pace an LJ said a few times lat season that he needs to stop chasing balls and save it fr when needed. He is built like a sprinter and can't run round like Paul Warne used to...the problem is with the way the team is set up he won't get many chances to use that pace or race beyond their defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) I reckon LJ has told JCH to conserve his energy more and not chase hopeful balls. He has the pace an LJ said a few times lat season that he needs to stop chasing balls and save it fr when needed. He is built like a sprinter and can't run round like Paul Warne used to...the problem is with the way the team is set up he won't get many chances to use that pace or race beyond their defence. Problem is it looks like laziness and Gros must have got a different message. Edited July 20, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Problem is it looks like laziness. He didn't look lazy to me yesterday, but was selective. I don't think that's a bad thing if it reduces the risk of his fitness costing us points (e.g. Crewe away). In many ways, he did well. He got into the right positions on numerous occasions. But their scorer had composure, JCH didn't. I'd stick with JCH because if somebody's smart enough to get in the right place at the right time the goals usually come. I still think he'd be better with a strike partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I reckon LJ has told JCH to conserve his energy more and not chase hopeful balls. He has the pace an LJ said a few times lat season that he needs to stop chasing balls and save it fr when needed. He is built like a sprinter and can't run round like Paul Warne used to...the problem is with the way the team is set up he won't get many chances to use that pace or race beyond their defence. Is he that quick though? Happy to be corrected but don't remember seeing him tear past defenders too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Agreed. I like Connor. He didnt start his latics career that well, but he has come on leaps and bounds. Yep, I don't mind him either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Thought the wilsons , kusunga , jones and connor brown all had good games . Big Lj fan BUT thought he'd get a mix of the first ten games and the last ten of 13/14 . I know it's early days but seeing a 19 year old striker with little 'game intelligence' constantly 40 yards further up than any of his team mates is very frustrating and slightly worrying . As easy as his chances were yesterday, especially the second one , I can't really blame JCH for snatching at his opportunities when he is starved of the ball and must have had about 20 touches tops in Newcastle and Melbourne games combined . We are relying on picking up scraps and capitalising on mistakes for chances rather than pushing up the pitch as a fluid unit . 3-5-2 would make much more sense with the current personnel but it's looking like 4-5-1 is the way it's going to be . On the plus side I think if we are looking at like for like from last season then mike jones seems a more rounded footballer than wes . He seems to have a little bit of everything in his locker and has impressed me far more than the disappointing Kelly . Early signs are that Bristol city have got A good deal in getting k.smith in for Kelly at a reported 200k difference . Defence is sound enough (James wilson gets better every game) but if we get undone once have we got enough at the other end of the pitch to stop the now notorious home 0-1's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markspark92 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Kelly looks unfit to me, will need to give him time he hardley played at all last season due to bad injury and is only 2 weeks into Pre-season I'm sure we've not been ripped off, I'd have him play further up though and put Jones and Dieng in the centre with JCH a lone striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 So we are all against the 3 holding midfielders sitting in front of a flat back 4 then ? Thought these players are box to box and high energy ? What a load of tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 i thought jones looked the real deal yesterday... and that's just in a friendly! he was that little bit better then korey smith when under pressure and a lot more clinical with his forward passing! not sure if he's got the engine that korey smith had, but definitely got the potential to be a much more effective playmaker for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Sad as it probably sound Winchester is our only real flair player in the squad its a shame the manager doesnt recognise his quality and wont play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Sad as it probably sound Winchester is our only real flair player in the squad its a shame the manager doesnt recognise his quality and wont play him. He's not the only manager not to play him regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Why keep him if he doesnt rate him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Why keep him if he doesnt rate him ? He's being farmed out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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