GuyGermanLatic

What I meant was Premier League clubs have become such large businesses that they are able to rake in cash the fodder - lower league clubs - could only dream of having. There are huge signings going on whilst Bury can't even afford the keep on its last legs. Don't they also get funding from FC United?

What the :censored: is football becoming? Just big business :censored:ing over small clubs.

Like this, you mean? You have some weird requests...

Okay, imagine this... Latics either go up or stay down. Somewhere, far away, a businessman is in tears watching Johnson trying to sum up our last home loss in a positive light on LaticsPlayer. He glances at his Andy Ritchie poster and decides this is it: I'm buying Latics! He buys us on the Sunday and Corney us on the kerb the following Monday morning. He makes City look like peasants with his bank balance and decides to invest loads into our club. New, big names arrive; the Chaddy End's roof is finally painted; our scoreboard works; and even a fourth stand is built! Promotion, baby! Fans roll in from all across Greater Manchester, we go European and huge names like Andy Goram are playing for us. So my question is this: would you still be the same Latics fan? Obviously we'd still all be Latics fans, but would it still be the same for you? Would the sudden greatness not seem a little cheated? At the end of the day, football is about winning. But really like that? Or would you just not give a :censored: because we're doing well? Just a thought.

He still is a racist though, hence taking days for someone even to announce his supposed beliefs on behalf of him. You do realise he also had race issues at Swindon with a black player, right? Publicity stunts galore. Same. Had to paste it into Word to read it.

According to the BBC, he addressed a black player "by his skin colour" whilst at Swindon. When the player complained the club condoned Di Canio's decision. It's only now they've said it was wrong of him. Erm...

How much would it cost from Mumps on the tram? I know there'd have to be a change at Victoria.

And the banner between the home/away fans intact when a goal's scored.

Thanks for the support. Look forward to Monday! I said we take an anti-racist stance and the :censored: offs brought politics into it.

Bloody forriners, comin' over 'ere, tekin' us football clubs! *Just reading through some of the previous posts, :censored:ing hell this is one drab crowd. St. Pauli and the IRA... What the actual :censored: are you on about?

The fascist dictators or the extreme Islamists? I'm guessing the second.

I accept and know there are racists on both sides. I find the racism from Asians just as disgusting as it is from whites. This. Nail right on the head! Wanting the police to deal with people harming no-one because you don't agree with their beliefs. Haven't most fascist leaders done the very same? Ha.

Haha! Do we have enough alcohol to recreate it at BP?

I looked over a few things with people interested in introducing something new. They liked that are wanted to try it. Beats the huddle :censored:e. Respect. The idea of you singing along to the songs is brilliant! I don't understand why England can't pull something similar off. FC United and Crystal Palace have come close but... It's not quite there.

Just out of interest and no judgements passed, have you ever been to a match and sat with or at least near a genuine ultra group abroad?

has been quite a popular suggestion as of late.

UKIP is awful; it shows how blind people in Britain are to give it so much support. They're nothing more than Tories jumping on the immigration bandwagon to rear in swing voters. Why do people support that :censored:e? No, we want to work with what we've got, so to speak. Just add a bit of flavour to it. Speaking of Palace, didn't they have something like this (or they still do)? Remember a decent picture being posted on here when I brought it up in the past. Shame that you say it was awful but hey, each to their own. Worth a shot.

I think the person who finds the solution to it all will be a very rich man. All what you've said is right though. It's just nice to acknowledge the problem, say "Look, we're against this" and try to see if we can get rid of the barriers. Problem is I'm not really sure if people are even willing to actually acknowledge it.

I'm organising fans to better the club and town - I don't even live in England, let alone Oldham! So please don't turn the pessimism on me. This a club where its own fans singing "OIdham's a :censored:hole, we already know" and the rest laugh along. Consider that. Understandable on that and cheers (seriously, it's nice to know there are good people). But I'm not implying that is the norm but rather that it isn't uncommon - which is a problem - especially in a town with such a beautiful history as ours and has a very large ethnic mix-up. That documentary which every man and his dog's seen shows the guy talking about how Combat 18 were and are involved with Oldham Athletic. Do you know who Combat 18 are? And I know you'll think "Oh yeah, like we're still involved with them" or, as you said, mention that Oldham is a "Nazi-infested :censored:hole" but that's what people think! Welcome to the age of the modern media! Maybe not to the extent of being infested with Nazis, but our town is seen a "racist :censored:hole" - I even know both Asian and white people who would more than agree with me. I'm sorry if this is hard for you to accept. We've had the EDL here, the BNP getting a decent vote count in Shaw, some ex-armed forces guys saying "Islam should be smashed" and calling all Muslims "paedophiles" in front the church next to Spindles and we've had the 2001 riots, which will never go away. I'm not some apologist for all of this crap, but look at Oldham. Look at what Oldham really is - at both the white and Asian communities. Many people I know are extremely racist - even Oldham fans. But, of course, closed doors keep loud sounds muffled. Please explain to me why you believe this a leftist group. Like you're getting at though, there are some great people in Oldham. I'd just like there to be more.

We had "Paki shagger" shouted at us a lot. Group of lads cornered me once about it too. Plus look at our history and the fact the divide between the Asian and white communities is still there. You just read an article from the :censored:ing BBC about it and find me hard to believe... What the :censored:?! I think you're a pessimistic, non-bollocks disbeliever.

A video was leaked of our training...

It is something I've helped craft into a very different image - but only with consent from the others. Don't get me wrong, we're all for anti-racism, making a scene and the rest, but this isn't a political demonstration or an attempt to change anybody's views. As NewBlue said above, do you think half of the people in this will be even aware of right/left? We just want a set of like-minded fans wanting to make the atmosphere, reputation of the club and experience of watching matches better. Plus this is focused on one group, not the entire fans. If you don't associate with it then why such the fuss? All we've asked of people is to bring a scarf or a friend. Agreed and we'll take that in. This is why we're deeming it nothing more than just a "debut." We're already facing one or two problems with the drummer so we'll have to see where it goes. We also want to make it clear where we'll be sitting so that if fans don't want a drum being whacked down their ear for 90 minutes they can keep clear of us. Let's see how Monday goes first.

Shoddy article which makes us look :censored:e. I still think there's a problem but it's nothing like it was. It was great to see the Asian fans at Latics though and made me feel really proud to be a Latics fan which can attract the town - despite having to get to the 4th and 5th round of the FA Cup to do it. There is change in the air though... I can completely understand where you're coming from. My ex-girlfriend was Pakistani-American. We'd watch football together and she'd really get into it. She knew I was a massive Latics fan but refused to go on the premise that Oldham was full of violent racists. She just felt really uncomfortable with the idea entirely. Like you were getting at though, if there was a factor which changed it slightly it might've been a different story. I don't think Latics playing against a Bangladeshi team would do any good: if you want to win allies, it's best not to call them your enemy first (bit harsh terminology but I think it'd drawn out like that).

I firstly want to start by giving the fans a huge thank you for supporting us through Facebook, our new blog and in person. It's been brilliant! Anyway, we plan on really kicking things off at Colchester. The article below is what has been written for the OA95 Ultras website in preparation for the Easter Monday game (come on, weather!) which I wanted to share with you all. The more who know the better it should be - fingers crossed. With our ideology moving away from the hooliganism of the FYC, we want to bring in the anti-racist, fan-friendly atmosphere which is enjoyed across Europe and by several clubs in England. This article is disappointing and really reflects one of the many things we want to change. Although this match will be our "debut," there's no limits as to where we can go with this and hope to truly transform the club. Anti-racism, fan-friendly and a damn sight better than any club in the league!