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From the Chron., "Meanwhile, Athletic have today been linked with a potential swoop for Hartlepool midfielder Michael Woods." So who is making all these decisions?

More factual reasons to Brexit: #1: Jean-Claude Juncker, unelected and inebriate President of the EC, wants more money to be stumped up for stimulation of the euro economy. Britain is not in the euro, yet somehow it has managed to become the biggest contributor, with €8.5 billion euros shovelled out of our budgets. Nobody seems to know what J-C Drunker did with the money, but now he wants more…to include use outside the EU. He knows not what he is at, and Britain is powerless to say no. #2: Italy has had its deficit control crime ‘waived’. I’m sure that’s going to help a great deal: clearly, we are saved. #3: The French ministry of Tourism has confirmed that all visitor targets for the industry will be missed. An open-ended rail strike is under way in France, with many services cancelled – part of the ongoing series of strikes to protest Troika-hatched labour ‘reforms’. Did anyone notice Jeremy Corbyn expressing solidarity? Thought not. The country is also in the grip of Air and oil delivery strikes. Juncker is not accountable, Italy is unsalvageable, and the austerity programme is suicidal. The EU is not going to protect labour rights, it is going to crush them.

‘Understanding’ the concept of anthropic climate change is very easy. Indeed, this is its attraction to those who only require simplistic and convenient answers and the politicos who would choose it as a tool of control. There has been no meaningful ‘debate’ owing to the sceptics (swivel eyed loonies) being pursued with almost religious fervour; the believers ‘refuting all science’ that contradicts or diminishes their theory. As for the ‘real debate being over 20 years ago’ I think not. The main part of the problem lies in the two groups using different definitions of how global warming appears in the climate. This is one of the reasons that those advocating that global warming is real now use the term “climate change,” since it is more reflective of the real issue. The other problem lies in proof, and in studies that try to prove whether or not global warming is real. Contrary to public belief, the results of all scientific studies aren’t conclusive. To be considered proof of a hypothesis, the studies have to be able to be replicated by others and produce the same results. With the global warming studies, analysis of decades of weather data is often used. The first problem is that weather data from 100 years ago wasn’t kept to modern standards of evidence. The second problem is that analysis is interpretation; you can really put any spin on it. This is why some of the arguments for and against whether global warming is real can use the same data and come to different conclusions.

Don't tell me you believe in man-made global warming as well.

No, it is about self-determination.

177 REASONS FOR EU BREXIT https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/100-reasons-for-eu-brexit/

I refer you to the full report, but I have extracted a number of points. The baseline of our trade relationship with the remaining EU states would be governed by WTO rules which provide for non-discrimination in tariffs, and outlaw discriminatory non-tariff measures. From this baseline, and as the remaining EU's largest single export market, we would be in a strong position to negotiate a mutually beneficial deal providing for the continued free flow of goods and services in both directions. We will explain what such a deal would look like in a later post. In practice, trade agreements almost always extend to cover broader subject matter than just tariffs and related matters falling within the scope of the EEC/EU common commercial policy. Where an external agreement contains provisions which extend beyond the scope of the common commercial policy or the EU’s other powers to conclude external agreements in its own name, it is necessary for the Member States as well as the EU to be parties to the agreement. This is called a “mixed” or “shared” competence agreement: where part of the competence to conclude the agreement belongs to the EU, but part of it remains with the Member States. The upshot of this “mixed competence” scenario is that vis-a-vis other parties, the EC/EU is responsible for compliance with, and entitled to the benefit of, certain aspects of the WTO Agreements; while the Member States individually remain responsible for, and entitled to the benefit of, the remaining aspects. The boundary between EC/EU and Member State competences is not stationary: under the ECJ’s Lugano doctrine, the EU acquires external competence in areas where internal EU harmonisation occurs, and a significant shift in competence took place under the Lisbon Treaty which made the trade-related aspects of intellectual property part of the EU’s commercial policy. While this fluctuating boundary line may be confusing for other WTO members, it is in general accepted by them. However, the consequence of this after Brexit is straightforward. The EU will cease to have any competence in respect of the UK’s trade or other external relations, and the UK will automatically assume rights and responsibilities in respect of 100% of its relationship with other members under the WTO Agreements. In addition, trade relations between the UK and the remaining EU (“the r-EU”) will cease to be governed by the EU treaties, and will automatically be governed by the framework of the WTO Agreements - unless of course a replacement trade agreement is negotiated between the UK and the r-EU which comes into force on exit. One of the key principles of the WTO Agreements is non-discrimination in trade relations. This means that WTO members are not allowed, for example, to charge different tariffs on goods imported from different countries except in clearly defined and limited circumstances. Thus, following Brexit and assuming for the sake of argument that no trade agreement were reached between the UK and the r-EU, the r-EU would apply its standard external tariff rates to imports from the UK but would not be allowed to discriminate by charging higher rates to the UK than to other non-EU countries. Similarly, the UK would apply its standard external tariffs to imports from the r-EU.

New Report "BRITAIN would be legally entitled to use existing trade deals worth billions of pounds even if the country voted to leave the European Union in June, according to a new report. Written by some of the most eminent legal experts in the field, the Lawyers for Britain research discredits claims by Chancellor George Osborne that the UK would find it “very difficult” to renegotiate trade deals with 27 EU members and 50 global trading partners. The report was yesterday hailed as a game changer by the independent Institute of Economic Affairs think tank. Director-general Martin Littlewood said: “This nails the lie from the Remain camp that if we were to leave the EU Britain would find itself at ground zero, or year zero. The report’s author Martin Howe QC, one of Britain’s leading EU experts, who yesterday confirmed that, far from having to abandon the deals, “Britain would have existing trade deals in place” from the first day after Brexit. Full report here: http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/brexit-trade-treaties.shtml

Not really, the Greeks wanted to benefit from the borrowing power of the euro and they should never have been allowed to join. There are only two ways forward now - debt forgiveness, go back to the drachma or both. The EU will not allow either and are currently in the process of asset stripping the country.

No, it isn't. Good to know you recognise Cameron's propaganda is crap.

Watch and learn.

See link below for a very eloquent discourse on the EU. https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/paul-emery/why-on-earth-would-socialists-support-neoliberal-undemocratic-eu

You really don't get it do you? The chaos in Greece is the fault of the EU and the insane Euro project. Italy is the next big one to watch as it is in deep recession. The Eastern block countries want the free ride and will join the Euro at their peril. The decision to expand to Urals (Cameron) infuriates Putin and rightly so. Also given that Cameron's negotiations have weakened our position in Europe by giving up our veto, I cannot see us being a big decision maker. The French simply do not want to do anything the Anglo-Saxon way and will never compromise.

a) Vote out then. Not managed to influence the EU thus far after 40+ years. So in your dreams.

Good post, but I am not as optimistic about the outcome. The problem is that it will not be the devil they know because our position will be weaker and it will be full steam ahead for a whole raft of legislation leading ultimately to the US of Europe. This referendum has 'opened the gate of the pen,' but I am afraid the sheep will vote to remain. If by doing so people think that their loyalty will be rewarded; think again, more likely there will be punishment will for causing trouble. If you doubt this take a look at Greece.

“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” ― Joseph Stalin “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.” JOSEPH GOEBBELS

In your dreams.

An open letter from the US President. Dear Brit folks, how ya'll doin` ? We in the USA fought a war of independence against those that attempted to impose their taxes and political will on us without our direct consent...but we expect you to. We in the USA have a trade agreement called NAFTA. It has led to fewer jobs and small farms but at least we have not signed up to a political union, complete with its own courts and unelected executive...but we expect you to continue to do so. We in the USA have always valued the right of our great country to decide (through something called “parliamentary democracy”) its own future and destiny...but we do not think you should. As soon as Turkey joins the EU you'll have a European Army big enough to take on them pesky Russians (and free American Forces to concentrate on China) so kick ass guys...the USA is behind you all the way! So stay in the EU and believe me when I say...it will be awesome, especially when TTIP is signed and we get to run your schools, hospitals and jails. Missing you already, BO.

Sorry I was thinking Fleetwood played Blackpool Tuesday (didn't check silly me). I feel a whole lot better now.

I think 1 point clear. Need something Tuesday - I seem to remember losing at home to 10 man Crewe

Posted ? before looking at the table - see what you mean.

Not sure, just looked at Doncaster fixtures and I can see them getting 10 if not all 12 points.

Seems impressive, but nevertheless it's just opinion.

Possibly my eyes, but I am sure the defender touches the ball. Harsh Pen.