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didn't vote as I confess I have no idea. Think we were nailed on for relegation but now I dare to dream. I shall put my trust in Shez and hope he can give the team the requisite kick in the backside

well we're odds on to go down and it doesnt seem as if there is the heart or ability within the club to change that. Yep, I want Corney out - I have for years and just see the current predicament as something that's been signposted for years, what I do really worry about is that I can't see a way out. It always comes back to the land and who owns it and who in their right mind would buy the club as is. Ah well, poop happens and then you die. I did however vote for attending more games as I'm an exile in the south and League 2 has loads of teams down here, League 1 is heavily northern and I'm not travelling far to watch that tripe.

FC United away,win 10-0 & bulldoze the ground down

nobody has yet been able to explain why it's bigoted to want to leave the EU and to want to have an Australian/Canadian style points system for immigration (often wonder why the High Commissions of those two countries arent besieged with anti racist demonstrators every day). Oh other than "well I read in the paper the other week that some UKIP parish councillor said something really racist on Facebook". Anyway, I have digressed from the issue of the day and for that I humbly apologise but I'm tired of the "ooooh, you're a racist you are" nonsense. Read their last manifesto - disagree with it, tear it up and jump up and down on it whilst declaring you've never read so much steaming faeces in your life but try and find the racist propositions....there arent any to quote a certain shadow cabinet minister said "I'd rather swim through vomit"

no, I'm not saying I trust them - I most definitely do not trust them but the likes of Cameron and Blair win General Elections. That's the modern world. I dont like it or them but that's how it works. yes, there is no doubt the press would have hammered him even if he had sung it. He really couldnt win either way. But Comrade Steptoe best get used to it, they're not going to give him an inch.

privately educated journalist slags off some rich prep school marxist. Cant see the point in slagging people off Tories/Press etc for being posh/privately educated when that also covers the majority of the Labour lot as well. don't worry there will be plenty of debate on his political beliefs and so much of it is going to be far too salty for middle England. He's obviously never thought for a moment that one day he'd have this much responsibility on his shoulders and this much hostile scrutiny of everything he's ever said or done - and why would he, he must be as shocked as everyone else at how fast things have changed - and that is his major weakness. That weakness is probably in his supporters eyes also his greatest strength - it's refreshing to have politicians who actually say what they believe but at the same time I don't believe it's possible to win over enough people to win a GE without being a smarmy lying two faced weasel. It's also not possible, yet, to win a GE - however professionally packaged, which let's face it wont be - from a position as far to the left as Corbyn is. Anyway, that's my two penneth from the outside looking in. Labour have slit their own throats & the Bullingdon Boys will be toasting each other in 2020

it's no surprise that an atheist republican didnt' sing but the main thing to remember is that your Commie mate stole the old buffers' butties. I never sing the anthem either and I'm about seven squillion percent more pro British than Corbyn but you cant be surprised that people do make a big thing about it. It's an open goal. The press will be relentless and the thing is the stories just will not stop - the man is unelectable

that made me laugh. I'm all for re-education camps myself of course, just with a different curriculum than yours I disagree with an awful lot of what goes on in Corbyn's head - I voted UKIP in the past two General Elections and gave up on Labour a long time ago, I'm not really the target audience. I do laud his EU scepticism, it's about time opposition to the EU isnt seen as a left/right thing and you can voice that without some bugged eyed left wing loon shouting at you that you're somehow racist, but I suspect like all others who get a sniff of power he'll backtrack on that, look at how your comrades in Greece blithely ignored the will of the electorate once things got real. I reckon he'll go through the motions of posing difficult questions to Cameron on the issue but when the day for the referendum comes he wont be advising his acolytes to make the break. I really dont think Corbyn can appeal to enough people to ever win power - he's got his left wing supporters and then he'll have the votes of everyone who always votes Labour no matter what, they'd vote for a pig in a red rosette. But everyone else? It's just not going to happen. Also he's in the rather delicate position of an overwhelming majority of the parliamentary party being absolutely horrified by his leadership, they cant move on him yet but they will when the chance comes. I can forsee a future where the likes of Corbyn will make great headway but the time isn't now, you'll just have to wait until the demographics of the country match those of London. 35 years?

no - they play at home against Keighley (who came 2nd). Doncaster are already down. If they beat Keighley they go up, if they lose against Keighley they will then be in the Play off Semi at home to North Wales Crusaders. If they lose that they're toast, if they win that they're in the play off final against the winners of Swinton v York. Think the final is at Widnes (although stand to be corrected)

from the outside looking in it looks to me that the Labour Party has committed suicide. I realise that many long standing rank and file members wanted the party to come back to them but surely nearly everyone who signed up as a £3 member did so to vote for Corbyn? A major party changed it's voting rules only to find itself hijacked by the Socialist Workers Party, Morning Star readers and that bloke who stands outside the supermarket with a can of cider and a dog on a string. And as a result of only interacting with people who think exactly the same way they are now sure that it's some kind of brave new dawn & the Tories are on the run when the fact is they're looking down the barrel of a General Election beasting that will nigh on break the party. I bet Cameron was dancing around number 10 in his finest top hat. Labour's only hope is the EU thing tears the Tories apart. It's going to be really interesting if the two big parties go in for some serious infighting at the same time. Seriously - if you're happy with Corbyn do you really think you have even the faintest chance of success? The media are going to destroy him and the thing is they dont even have to make stuff up, it writes itself. It's not an evil right wing smear campaign - he really has said all that stuff, he really does believe all that stuff and as for that McDonnell bloke - hoot! Oh, and Diane Abbot - ffs Great soap opera ahead, hand out the popcorn

Correct. If they get promotion they'll have to play somewhere else as Whitebank is an absolutely shocking facility. I hope it's Boundary Park - although I realise many of you dont - but given the history I can't see it happening that's just the way they roll in RL. The thing is that it's not a fair split of fixtures - not everyone plays everyone home and away so to even it out they have the playoffs. If Oldham say had played South Wales twice (guaranteed 4 points) but Keighley only played them once then it's not fair (I dont know who played who, just using an example). Saying all that it's also the same in the Super League even though they do play home and away - although there is the magic weekend extra game which slightly unbalances things - the team who comes top of the league isn't the actual champion - that's whoever wins the Grand Final.

Am I right in remembering we won the 2nd leg 2-0 as well?And Micky Quinn was at Stockport?

I remember him. Sad news, that's no age at all

top link! havent heard that for a few years, still brings a happy tear to my eye. Best day of my life that was (sorry kids). What a night up town afterwards!

yes, it's very sad all those men died in such a disastrous campaign and now all the world knows about it is modern day Australians whining about what the British did to them. They suffered terribly as well of course, but the fact more British & French died (& Turks of course) there seems to be airbrushed out of history

100 years ago today at Krithia, Gallipoli - Oldham's territorial soldiers - the 1st/10th Battalion of the Manchester Regiment - went over the top for the first time . 94 men were killed and 320 wounded. This was approaching a 50% casualty rate. Charge your glasses tonight gentlemen!

yeah but Latics wont take your kids and your house off you

I dare say a lot of them never go but we must be losing out nevertheless. Our crowds might be similar to the lowest ebb in the 80's when you were almost guaranteed to see people punching each other but United and City have far bigger crowds now than then. Those people have come from somewhere. There are also definitely far more City fans in one part of our borough - Royton - than there used to be. As a kid they were very rare creatures, now whenever I'm back home I see them (and they make me sick, it's bad enough having to put up with the red b's without that other shower muscling in). But even if we are losing out, there's not a lot we can do about it. We're on the doorstep of two clubs - one of which is one of the biggest in the world and the other is probably the richest club in the world. We must just wait in hope that the Premier League bubble will somehow spectacularly burst (and violent revolution in the UAE) Maybe our best option would be to follow Bradford's lead in pushing cheap and affordable admittance.They seem to be doing alright (admittedly with a larger catchment population and without two PL powerhouses to compete against) edit - Bradford doesn't seem quite as cheap as they used to be so maybe, as I often find myself, I may be talking out of my rear orifice

if I'm still around, which I rather hope I will be, I wont watch a minute of the farce. If all football fans did the same and shunned the sponsors then we would have real change in football. But they wont, the top end of the sport will continue to be owned by the likes of Qatar and other unsavoury people. Let the show go on but I shall stick two fingers up to it and seek solace in some nice full bodied Christmas ales whilst telling my kids that everything in the world has turned to s***. Ah, each year more and more like my dear old grandfather.

The Arsenal players brought that on themselves, acting like d'heads when they scored at the end of the game - him, Merson and one other in particular (cant remember who it was now - Adams?). That's why they were getting abuse from the paddock. I'm sure I'm right in saying that the woman who was spat on was innocent of any offence? I remember a week or two after Wright said that Oldham fans were the kind of people who still pointed at planes in the sky. I really can't stand him. All this 'Wrighty isn't he a character" nonsense - he's a brainless div and if it wasnt for his footballing prowess he'd probably be in prison. He also once spat at a QPR steward. Also a woman as it happens. Classy guy

everything that has gone wrong is purely down to this thread being started.Can I suggest this Lags character be tried, found guilty & then dealt with in whichever manner the People's Court sees fit

if only Corney could encourage the owners of the land to bring the two assets together. If only he knew who those mysterious figures were. Ah well, I guess he's stuck with a club nobody wants to buy

haha, yes I did as it happens. I was standing off to the quiet side of our section and, although they're a quiet bunch, that's the loudest I've ever heard Orient. Heard all of 4 chants from them which is 4 more than usual. Also it's the first time I've been moved to exchange obscene gestures at their little oafs giving it the big un over the segregation. Something is stirring in east London ;-)

think you're right with both. Most irksome

that was unacceptable on Saturday. Stealing their wages, wandering around the pitch doing...........well, doing what exactly? The Orient fans put their finger on it when they sang "we're winning at home, how <beep> must you be". The only silver lining was I was home at 6pm to relate to an ashen faced family news of our crushing defeat. Varus, give me back my legions etc - rather than still chugging up the motorway shaking my head