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Dear all

Please find below the link to the letter sent on behalf of Fans who attended the Fan meeting at the OEC centre on Saturday 23rd March and that has been emailed to the club today

https://trustoldham.co.uk/news-announcements/open-letter-to-abdallah-lemsagam/

Copies of the letter will be hand delivered and sent recorded delivery into the club.

Thank you 

17 minutes ago, oafcmetty said:

https://trustoldham.co.uk/news-announcements/open-letter-to-abdallah-lemsagam/

 

Punchy

You beat me to it as I was emailing link to Trust members

Cheers for posting

3 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

That was 2018, its only 3 months to the next deadline.

 

TBF Corney did the same in June 2017 and the Trust raised it at the AGM that year.

I honestly don't know if it's a common business practice to do this

44 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

You asking a local newspaper to publish it as an open letter?  Can’t really deny receiving something that is in the public domain. 

Good call. I will suggest it cheers

13 hours ago, pk200 said:

Suggest it be delivered by hand (asap) if possible.

Plan is recorded delivery and hand delivered. with other back up options

13 hours ago, lookersstandandy said:

Hang on, hang on. There was a meeting last Satdi - that I watched an hour of via the live stream - where I believe the outcome was to write a firmly worded open letter to the owner, from the Trust, on behalf of us all. We will await his response before taking further action, which could take the form of protest. In the meantime if individuals choose not to attend / not to renew their season tickets that’s their choice. In short, the immediate reaction protest arranged for the postponed Tranmere game, is in itself postponed until said letter has been sent and a response or otherwise received?

Hi Andy

I think its confusing as there has been lots of cross over in the last few weeks. I will try and unravel it from my point of view

1) Facebook protest "stand up for latics". Planned for Tranmere match that was postponed. I believe one of the organisers was at last Saturdays fans meeting and I have not seen anything arranged for this week. so I will presume (and I could be wrong) but that group might now be waiting the outcome from the Trust/fan letter.

2) Fan meeting at OEC last saturday 23rd March.  Arranged to let fans vent frustration and too see what a concensus of fans want and how together we can do this. Concensus was that the fans wanted to try the dialogue route with the owner and we are on target to deliver that letter/request.

2) Facebook protest "Abdallah out". planned for this Saturday 30th Grimsby match.. THIS IS NOT TRUST ENDORSED and I have only seen this this week myself.

As fans we are diverse and diverse in how we want our feelings known. I don't believe anyone should be judge on how/what they want to do (well accept violence, intimidation ect).

We are starved of good news for our club. We are more newsworthy off the pitch than on it.

Cheers

17 hours ago, blueatheart said:

The top of the Trust website (when amended) will look good.

 

Vacant - Chair

Darren Ratcliffe - Vice Char, Secretary

Vacant - Vice Chair

Vacant -  Board Rep

Vacant - Treasurer

 

So is it the club or the Trust that is in crisis? (or both?!)

There are days.....hahah

No not at all. On balance we have always been about the same number if you include co-optees. 

57 minutes ago, singe said:

That's good to see. Darren is going to be busy though..!

I hope that you get some more to join, would you call it the Board?

Meeting like the one on Saturday might help prompt someone.

Yep he is and he's on holiday so what he is doing now he's doing it whilst away.

We did ask on Saturday if anyone is interested to log it on the trust website as there is a section there.  Or anyone on here even.

You don't have to be a director to start with, in fact we recommend first you co-opt in and you could say serve for 6 months. It gives you time to see what we are about, to see if it is something you can commit too and of course,......saves us on paperwork hahah.

Ideally to attend 3 meeting per season usually in person but the way technology is and that we have Darren who is a bit of a techno geek, we could look logging in.

So if anyone thinks, you know I could be interested then please go to the trust website.

https://trustoldham.co.uk/

Thanks

35 minutes ago, singe said:

Might need to do an and staff for the Trust.

Mark Lund has resigned.

I know as a volunteer it is tricky to balance the time.

I think I jinxed him as last night I said he was still a director.

However, this was not a sudden decision for him or unexpected for us as we are aware somewhat of the circumstances. The door is always open for those that have previously served as volunteers...well just ajar for a few like that pesky Leeslover and Jorvik were right pains in the........only messing. 

We have a brief overview on the Trust site of who's who. We are now 9 volunteers - thanks

Dear all

For your information

https://trustoldham.co.uk/news-announcements/position-of-mark-lund-at-trust-oldham/

Thanks Mark

9 hours ago, peanuts said:

may i ask the trust has the letter been forwarded to AL yet ?

Sorry Peanut, I think I commented last night on another thread

As Andy B has already confirmed above, yes we are almost ready for launch and as soon as it is done we will put it out for all fans, not just members or those that attended on Saturday....for All as we are all in it together.

Andy has worked really hard on this since Saturday's meeting, bearing in mind it was the weekend, family commitments and work commitments he was on draft 4 of it last night. Reason for the re-writing, well the letter has to set the right tone, the message, the questions and timescales we wanted from Saturday's meeting with some undertones of Trust entitlement as well. 

We want it right and professional.....that's why Andy has done it and  not me hahah. 

Thanks for patience

45 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

I can maybe help AndyB out here with getting the right tone :

 

Dear Abdallah,

 

Fuck off, you big fucking liar.

 

Love The Trust xx

Ermmm...okay. some delicate undertones there but overall.

Subtle, short and sweet.

Just like you Mr Sinnott

Cheers

1 hour ago, oafcmetty said:

There are two things that will get to him:

 

1) The money coming in drying up - whether that's fans not renewing/attending, or sponsors pulling out - something I believe is already happening

2) Public embarrassment - we've seen this already with the reactions to the Daily Mail articles, and the response to the Trust setting up a fan's meeting

The letter is almost there if not completed with questions gathered from Saturday.

Andy B has worked tirelessly on it to get the right tone and cover all the requirements. With a list of questions from Saturday's meeting and timescales. He is on draft 4 of it as we keep giving him feedback.....Bless and he has a full time job as well.

As soon as its ready, I am sure Andy B will be back on here with an update

1 hour ago, oafcmetty said:

Am I being thick? Why can't you copy and paste them into a post?

Max file allowance. I tried two and it would not allow me.

I might have another bash tomorrow and do them individually. Might also by then get the months I am missing sent in by another director

Cheers

18 hours ago, Bunty Blue said:

I believe the Supporter Liaison Officer is Mark Lund - at least he was in February when I had an email exchange with him after the Bury game.

 

slo@oldhamathletic.co.uk 

Hi Bunty Blue

You are right and so is singe on his post with regards to the current position of the SLO. 

Mark has asked that any SLO questions please re-direct to the Club secretary in the first instance. Which is Mark Sheridan

Edited: ....

Thanks

Dear all

Ref: Trust meeting notes

I have had a light bulb moment. I don't get many and yes it hurt. So here goes. I know the Trust website does not have our meeting notes on it. However, the notes have been approved by the Trust committee so there is no reason that they can not be in the public domain just because our website needs work. I think Latics22 and McFluff are keen to see them.

I am unable to upload them on here but I can email them to you if you want to PM me an email address to send them to.

I am missing September, October and November as I was working at the time and did them in my lunch hour. I will get copies of those missing months from another Director.

So let me know

Cheers

2 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Glad the trust know what's happening...

We have requested meetings since December with the owner for an update/review of his first 12 months and future business plan.

He has not been available.

I will leave that there but glad is not the word I would use

26 minutes ago, al_bro said:

I don't particularly think this will work sufficiently. The best option is to not renew season tickets for now. He won't necessary care about attendances, but he will care about money coming in. We may get some kind of movement from him then.  

Haven't I read somewhere that he has said he has made several bids to the landlord for the land but its rejected.

So wouldn't he have the money anyways to keep the club going regardless of whatever financial penalties us fans try?

Dear all

Its been a hectic week or so for the Trust team and of course, arranging last Saturday's meeting. I am still exhausted by it all. It can wear a person down all this voluntary stuff beyond usual office hours. 

The notes I drafted from the meeting are with the Trust team that were in situ for approval.......well I am only human and can make a mistake so they need checking.

Andy B has done an initial draft of the next step with regards to what the concensus of fans wanted and the steps to reach that goal.  He has done a marvellous job setting the right tone of it and we will roll it out as soon as we can.

The Trust team have lives beyond latics and Trust...I know priorities and all.

Your patience is appreciated

Thanks everyone

On 3/23/2019 at 10:25 AM, mcfluff1985 said:

Hated Sterling. He was just all pace with no end product. Finally showing how good he is. Never forget Youssouf M'Changama though

I can't look at Sterling without thinking of him taking out Youssouf on the sideline near the half way line, Youssouf had been getting some dangerous crosses in and set up one of our goals by half time when he did that. Don't think Youssouf played in English football again did he?

Afternoon everyone, I have just come in from the meeting

I have been panicked, nervous and almost sick with this meeting today.

Not so much meeting you all, but of course having the diversity we have and differing opinions ....how we could get a consensus and achieve what we set out to do

We had some questions on that were really not part of the agenda and we did veer off a bit but we reached the objective set of the next step, set of questions and timescales.

I did make notes, someone kindly sent the Trust people a list of what we agreed as well and we will get them all together officially for all fans to view. I am just feeling a little unwell to do it at this moment, but I am sure the fans there will give feedback as well.

Thanks to everyone who contributed today

11 hours ago, hollandspies said:

How many tickets did we "sell"? 

Sold out at 150.

Best make an effort outside my usual match day thermals. I am excited and nervous at the same time

12 hours ago, losesome said:

Whilst I have no faith or trust in AL to run the club one thing intrigues me,

AL walks into the meeting and says -

You fans are right , I'm not fit to run the club so here's the keys , bye bye.

THEN WHAT!!!!!!!!

Besides making a lot of fans happy there is the very serious question that IF we got AL to walk what do we do?

Depends on the board set up. As far as I am aware it is Al and Trust Representative are the board member (TBA) and responsible for the business.

2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said:

 

Ok thanks for clearing that up so he doesn't have to let the Trust know he's attempting to buy the land by law. It would just be advisable bearing in mind they are fans and shareholders of the club.

My head spins with how complicated it is and how it became complicated

The club is a business, it has two  current board members the owner (Al)  and the Trust Representative (TBA since recent resignation).

Both responsible for running the business that is OAFC, partners why would one partner not tell the other of the suture plan of the business/club? 

I am glad Al has engaged with the fans, I don;t know if it has answered fans questions in the main or opened himself up for more. 

Anyways, todays meeting has an agenda that has been published and will be maintained. It's about a meeting of minds and the next step we take together.

15 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

I'm no techie but I it can be done just with a phone

I have no idea on how to do it, maybe another or the Trust team can...or maybe a fan 

I will see what we can do

Cheers