underdog

Confirmed Sat 23rd March 12.30pm onwards.

Agenda to follow.

Event FOC 

Please come on down, get involved if you want to or just come and meet some of your Trust team for a chat...I am just about human and would have had my breakfast by then.

10 minutes ago, robboman said:

 

I would recommend any potential candidate to take sound legal advice on the Role they are undertaking and its legal responsibilites as per Simon Brooke above and Old Hallam

Its not to put anyone off but to ensure you know what the role is and the legal ramifications of the Board position

Even the Trust rep to the board will have Directors liability insurance in place 

I believe this is true but I am unclear how it would work as would not the fan have to follow the same guidelines as all directors?

It would be a seperate role to the Trust Rep position to the board of OAFC

Dear all

I have posted on another thread about Trust trying to arrange a fan meeting this Saturday. More details to follow. 

Its on Trust twitter page to gauge if there is any interest and how we can move forward together. I know not everyone uses twitter...me included. 

Its just a snapshot for now...if you can vote it would be helpful

Thanks

Dear all

Update 20/03/19 - link to agenda

https://trustoldham.co.uk/events/trust-fans-meeting/

We have all worked hard to pull this together, Andy B who post on here with regards to Agenda (there is a more detailed one..TBA), Darren on sourcing venue and a back up just in case.

Thanks

Dear all

UPDATE  AT 15.40pm. CONFIRMED FANS MEETING ON SATURDAY 23RD MARCH. AT 12.30PM

Please follow link below to book your place so we can judge numbers.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/trust-oldham-oldham-athletic-where-do-we-go-from-here-oafc-tickets-58842965895?fbclid=IwAR3WJzRQ6pwB8WoC9ZZ24vzkT-45z3elVJOZkO7XLjARfQBMHhX6WyUW56o

Andy B is working on agenda. which will follow and our web guru will change the incorrect date on the eventbrite site to this Sat 23rd. If you could let us know if you are planning to attend.

Thanks for your patience....now I am knackered and I need to lie down in a dark room for a few hours

We will see you on Saturday and thanks for your support

Tracy

Dear all

We are all a little busy this A.M in our lives outside latics....yes, yes I know how very dare we..

Anyways I don't do twitter but our communications guru has put his out there in this format with regards to bringing forward the fans meeting to this Saturday.

If you use twitter, click on trust Oldham near logo it will take you to the twitter page 

Cheers

12 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said:

Why not Saturday? We have no game... People will be looking for something to do.

 

Time to get a plan together for the Grimsby game. Everyone will have moved on by the 1st. 

Good idea I will see

All valid point and these are my thoughts as a fan (trust hat off) and throwing it out there

1) Strength of support of action, (what's the point if only a few X amount of fans are prepared to do something?)

2) What is the action(s)

3) What's the purpose of the action...the end results/agenda

4) timescales

5) Outside club support. 

Trust hat on.

Like Andy B has posted we are looking to get a meeting of minds together on a proposed date of 1st April. TBA on location, time, agenda and even if we can bring it forward.

Andy B is also one of the Trust contacts with Supporters Direct and I am sure we will be seeking advice and guidance from them.

Trust people are listening to all the fan feedback, on this site, Face book sites, twitter ect as frequently as we can and will keep you all posted

Thanks

38 minutes ago, latics22 said:

   On 7/11/2018 at 3:50 PM,  frizzell54 said: 

 

 

Where's Sinnot when you need him?

It was confirmed t eh Trust AGM that the playershare player for 2018/19 will be Jose Baxter.

 

we now need to crack on and get some publicity for it all and raise awareness...

 

cheers everyone for your patience and contributions too

Edited July 11, 2018 by underdog

Hello Latics.

The news broke on social media pre AGM (photos of Jose at Ground if I remember rightly) and in excitment at the time, a Playershare volunteer confirmed that we had been approached (it was not me, I posted from the AGM).

It was only verbal agreement, they have been previously and unfortunatley, the deal then did not proceed and no monies were used from Playershare

Lessons have been learned by all concerned.

Thanks

13 hours ago, HarryBosch said:

Boycott next home game to the extent we get a record low crowd. This needs to be a concerted, massively publicised effort. As shit as it is I don't want to miss a game, & moreso I don't want my lad to while he's so into it, but there's a bigger picture...

 

Those who have already renewed season tickets to ask for refunds.

Those of us who haven't to not renew. Do we contact the club by letter or email and inform them that we won't be renewing and explain why?

 

Does he have any other business interests as far as anyone knows? 

 

As much as he seems to not have a clue what he's doing and, therefore, as much as it would be best if he went - it took Corney all those years to find a buyer so we have to assume AL won't be able to sell quickly either so should we be making specific, reasonable demands of him (probably via the Trust) that would make us happy to renew/attend? eg, the appointment of an experienced football Chief Exec to run the club properly? 

Ref any other business interests.

I don't think so in the UK. Compaines house has a company registered as the main holder of the clubs shares. Address I think is outside UK and in UAE?

TBH I don't have a contact at the club....Billy who posts on here maybe? or maybe he can help give the correct channel.

Think I remember WiseOwl posted somewhere on the season ticket thread that he may have emailed the owner direct last Weds? maybe he can help. If not him apologies 

No resolution on the SLO volunteer vacancy the last I heard.

1 minute ago, latics22 said:

Remember when AL used player share for Baxter and tried to claim it was so the fans felt part of the club and purchase. When In reaity he was skint!

Playershare was approached to help fund Baxter but then nothing more came of it, so no funds were actually use, or have been used all season.

Baxter has not had the best of seasons, so its been a bit of a blessing in my opinion

1 hour ago, frizzell54 said:

What is the position with ‘Player Share?’  Do we stop contributing?

What happens to money already contributed?

Playershare is administered seperate from the club and Trust.

Funds are kept seperate and can only be requested by the manager of OAFC for players. 

We have been on a merry go round re managers for a while. So its business as usual nothing has changed with regards to that scheme. 

Don't forget you also have easyfundraising app that gives a monetary value kickback to Playershare for any online purchases you make, from travel, insurances, services, food shopping, ebay etc. There are over 300 retailers on there. Sorry for the bit of a plug but it was set up by the late Opinions4U and its still going. The trust want to help promote it more this season with the latics4life scheme. Both had to be put on the back burner for the time being

Hope this makes sense

31 minutes ago, wiseowl said:

 

Come on please!

 

Barring holidays/illness etc. I think most fans would think all members of Trust Oldham board would have been in attendance at BP today - either for the match or the protest (endorsed by the Trust)  or both.

 

That being the case, a Trust meeting of some kind would have been very easy to arrange. You were all going to BP, so either sit around a table in one of the local Latics' supporting pubs (would have accommodated you gladly), get into an office at BP or use my living room!

 

The fact that hasn't happened and you are referring to people living in different places, logistics etc. makes me realise that several/many of you were not in fact going to today's game - as I said, that tells me all I need to know - it's the nuclear option for me now and you may begin to understand why Trust Oldham is considered impotent by many supporters.

I still don't understand the relevance that all directors have to be at home matches? do we eliminate supporters/Directors who live in the South? One already travels up from London after work and another from Gloucester to be at the monthly meetings and both either stop over or travel home that night at their expense.

Do we eliminate those that are not season ticket holders maybe. I am in flooded Royton and no offence but I would not be coming out of my house for a fans meeting today even if it was called. Priority being my house could flood..sorry..house V trust meeting..hmmmm

Its the weekend. Some Trust Directors do not live in the vicinity of BP, Two I know off would not have set off when it was called off. We are fans, fans who want to enjoy the football with family and friends on Saturdays home or away. We devote enough time outside normal office hours to engage with fellow fans on here, on twitter on facebook.

I am curious how you would have rallied your company directors together on a Saturday for a meeting on a Saturday? 

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. But thanks for your input and welcome back to the OWTB board your absence after the Corney meeting made me curious and glad you are alright

And on that note....I am logging off for the night, tea to cook, United game to watch..I know, I know...

1 minute ago, wiseowl said:

Thank you - you have told me all I need to know.

 

I`m sorry, but I don't have much faith in Trust Oldham to effectively mobilise the fans in these very trying times.

Why because we can't pull a meeting together in less than a day and on a weekend to boot? I feel you are being a little unreasonable but its your opinion

21 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Skype, phone...

We do keep in contact outside planned monthy meeting.

My phone has been on meltdown since the PS new broke on Thursday afternoon.

28 minutes ago, wiseowl said:

 

Not quite what I meant underdog.

 

Surely the majority of you would have normally been present at today's game (certainly enough to satisfy quorum requirements). As the match has been postponed, why aren't you meeting now? It would have been very easy to meet at the ground (i.e. as though the match were on), then convene a Trust meeting (probably in a room at the ground) to get things going. Even if it wasn't a formal meeting - an informal one would have sufficed.

 

Nobody would be inconvenienced because you were all going to the game anyway.

 

Seems logical to me. One reason it might not be logical is that not many members of the Trust board actually attend all home games - please assure me that isn't the case.

We can use the club if we pay rental ...hence we have a new home and that is usually used on saturdays.

to be blunt .we all have lives we all don't frequent together on match days, some have their own routines pre-post match and maybe are still doing that as we speak. so it was too short notice for today. I hope you can understand that.

With regards to assurance, no its not a pre-requist that all Trust directors have to be at home games. I don't understand why it would be

3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

 

With one obvious exception...

welllllll.......I did not want to suggest but....

1 minute ago, wiseowl said:

underdog - genuine question - please don't think I`m harrying.

 

If I ran or was involved on the board of the Trust I would take the opportunity this afternoon (i.e. because none of you can attend the postponed game) to get together for an extraordinary meeting in order to start mobilising resource, planning, getting a formal statement of intent out to fans etc.

 

Am presuming that most of the time Trust board members attend home games (if they don't they shouldn't be on the board of the Trust) so, like I say, ideal opportunity today to get together. Has that happened please?

exactly what you have said, it has already been suggested about us getting together as soon as we can.

Not all directors are local though, logistics of meeting and venue we have just started to use being available, alternative venue available.as well. 

We are also looking into the logistics of a fans meeting/brainstorming/meeting of minds with regards to the next step

Thanks

2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

Well apologies if wrong but as per earlier comments by others it's time to be independent

no need to apologise.

We are all very much diverse in our experience and skillsets, but we follow the same process of any board in place of a company. We meet, we discuss we vote. Granted sometimes its not all in so to speak, but it does tend to be for than against.

Cheers

12 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

From this quote from Andy B:

There are reasons for that which I won’t go into.

lots of varied reasons yes, but this is not one of them

33 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

 

From which I can only infer that there isn't much unity on the trust board

How do you come to that conclusion?

We meet, we discuss, we vote. To be honest we are more all in together than divide.

19 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Does Oldham council want to buy the club?

Honestly I don't know, or if they have the resources even.

We have been in contact with them as part of the Trust reach out to business to strengthen our links/support networks/advice network. As you know though, they have been a little bit pre-occupied with regards to Brexit, green belt and up and coming local May elections.

They hold the ACV register and have been supportive of the club in different ways in the past

I was chatting to a local councillor the other day about greenbelt and the topic did switch to latics, so we are generating interests at least.

3 minutes ago, laticsmarra said:

From the perspective of potential buyers waiting for the club to go into Administration may be preferable. They will then be able to buy the club debt free. On the contrary it may lead to relegation. Its a balancing act and we may see potential purchasers sitting on the sidelines for a while to see how things work out.

True....think I have posted that SD helped with a club that happened to and the council stepped in. The council did not want to loose their football club so they negotiated with the liquidators to buy both land and club.

17 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Considering you say there's good dialogue with owner of stadium yet the owner of the club is running it into the ground, surely owning the club first is the better option.

 

Otherwise you could be left with a very expensive ground and no team to play on

its not as easy  or clear cut at it seems is it, I am not being condescending its just how complex our situation is .....some have posted ground first.

Landlord and tennant are linked with regards to rental arrangements and agreements to maintain the ground.

56 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

If there is a group with money to buy the ground why don't they try buying the club off AL instead? Or am I missing something 

Honestly, I don't know if they have approached the owner. 

Honestly, which of the two is more the attractive offer? Chicken or egg? which one would you put first? geninune question.

Timescales/availbility? As of this moment in time only one is up for sale....the Brassbank option.