underdog

1 hour ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Have you an acknowledgement from him yet? 

No response yet my friend

well that was unexpected. Chuffed

7 hours ago, Dave_Og said:

I don't say this lightly. But bollocks to that. 

However, we were sensitive to that, Wise is not wrong to raise it

8 hours ago, wiseowl said:

Just a thought (and there is a contentious point in here - but it may be relevant).

 

The way some people of the owner's background, ethnicity etc. conduct business is sometimes far removed from traditional western methods. As a comparison, when the bank I worked for was negotiating around business transactions with anyone from North Africa/The Middle East they learned very quickly never to utilise a female employee.

 

Like it or not, the whole world is not like us here in the UK and there are different cultural approaches.

 

Now, our owner may be what is termed "more progressive" in his outlook but I honestly have no idea.

 

So, might it be a matter of choosing the right person/s to liaise with him?

 

I note the previous Chair of Trust Oldham was a lady and we don't seem to have been very successful in our liaisons.

 

(In writing this, I realise what a mess we have got ourselves in over here i.e. we can't write in plain English what it is we are meaning for fear of upsetting all and sundry - we have to couch it in roundabout terms but, hopefully, everyone will grasp what I am saying and that I have no malice or prejudice in saying it - it may just unlock the door?)

Hello Wise

Yes early on we realised that the Owner had come from a totally different world/culture and hence we decided to gave him time to adjust to it all

We hoped he might have advisors in place to help him negotiate the pitfalls of running a business and culture acceptance and we became aware that respect would play a big part in the relationship moving forward.

Thanks

I am nervous about tomorrow's match

But i will take the 3 points please

3 hours ago, sjk2008 said:

I'd be interested to know if the Trust intend on doing anything about some of these claims that Birkett is coming out with?

 

There are also screenshots available on Twitter where it appears that the director who left the other week - Mark Lund  (?) - states the reasoning for his departure was down to the way the Trust are actively seeking to oust AL from his position, and that's not an approach he agrees with.  Another one where a trust director (or former) has stated that he/she has been asked if they want to help set up a phoenix club.  Both provided by Chuckle (I think).

TBH. We can't respond as he has cut us all out of the group he allowed us in. Right to reply I suppose.

I have no idea if they are personal views of Director spoke/typed in a friend to friend response to Kevin.  

Until we are allowed to understand what the evidence is then we can review it and respond

At the end of the day, We are all fans and our concern is the club and people who work there. This should be the focus in my mind

4 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said:

It's having the opposite effect. It's uniting us all against Birkett...

It is worrying me.

Previously he has said to me he is not a well man and he is on medication and I have always been sympathetic.

I really hope it does not make him unwell

4 hours ago, sjk2008 said:

He's an absolute danger that bloke.  He's also just said in that very thread that he doesn't remove people from the group who disagree with him, only to remove me literally 1 minute later...

come sit on the naughty step with me.....it's about the length of a run on the RRE by now.

Cross on over..all is welcome.....

Sad really

3 hours ago, blueatheart said:

So the lack of any leadership is fine?

 

Are you also negotiating brexit?

We have a vice chair who will take the lead up to the next Trust meeting in April. So we all know who is charge now if you know what I mean and who the owner can contact if a Board meeting is called at OAFC or they want to contact the Trust in general.

With regards to the constitution, it does say that the Rep to the board of OAFC had to serve as a Trust Director beforehand of minimum of three years. There are four of us currently that applies to and will discuss at April meeting if anyone who is interested.

However, there are some new co-optees that have joined in December time that may have better skills at board level. So we may have a discussion concerning those that it may be better suited for

Brexit....ye gods don't get me started..hahah

8 hours ago, kowenicki said:

 

He certainly wasn’t there toward the end. So that’s probably true.

 

He usually likes to stay until the very end and congratulate his team for following his touchline instructions. 

I saw him just after half time front row but I did look to see where he was towards the end so I could judge Not bumping into him on the carpark.

Interesting. 

Edit: apologies just seen the date on the removal it was 2017. I thought it was yesterday...oh dear

2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

One thing that site does have over this one is that for the most part the posts are in members' real names. 

True however that particular gentleman can be quite clever.

When he wants to be rationale he post under his first name and surname

When he was to post things that are potentially slanderous/inflamatory he posts under first name and surname of Chuckle

9 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

Your husband has had his head shot off ? Beauty is only skin deep I suppose. 

i said resemblance although sometimes I do wonder about the brain function of him from the neck up...hahah

14 minutes ago, peanuts said:

no dont would play right into the idiots hands would be playing the martyr  all over social media within seconds just leave him and the rest of the quislings to it they will come running when it inevitably goes tits up 

ohhh Trust me....That won't happen, being ex Army from an Irish regiment who recruited in areas like merseyside and cheshire. His Para mates are sweeties too.

Funny that we are playing Tranmere at home on Tuesday...hmmmmm

Hubby has a passing resemblance to Ralph Moat as well. 

I have always learner never give a reaction if one is provoking you.  I just felt so sorry for the fan I was giving his membership card too. 

I will log it with the club 

Cheers

28 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

I find it interesting that this bellend birkett doesn’t have anyone on here coming to his defence. I bet there’s plenty on here who are his mates ? Come on come out and tell us he’s just misunderstood. 

 

FWIW underdog , after seeing this dweeb throwing punches at the stewards at Bristol Rovers  a couple of years back, I say you would take him. Why not challenge him to a duel ? Proceeds to your choice of charity ? 

like celebrity death match style? Arm wrestle? 

I am not mud wrestling....no no. noooooooo

Like I said, I thought we were okay and amicable up to Thursday afternoon and I still don't know what the question is and he never stated one yesterday.

When he is focussed on something  all reasoning goes out of the window with him. IMO

I believe he has barred Wayne Hurst yesterday as he posted something about his managerial style. Wayne puts the Chaddy the owl costume on.

There are quite a few of us on the naughty step.

10 hours ago, Steve_R said:

I think the point he was making was that we had little choice but to trust Abdallah after the mess Corney left us in, and looks how that's gone. The Trust seemed fully supportive of him at first, so whats' to say won't happen again.

The Trust are not anti-owner. 

We have an entitlement to know at board level that the business that is OAFC (the club) is being run in a fit manner. The books, the plan, future finances, a board in place to help with all that and key personnel in place to help run it when the owner is away (CEO)

The frustration is, is the lack of meaningful dialogue around that as we are 14 months into his tenure.We are his partner, equal parity voting at board level he is big on respect, we don't seem to be getting it. The annoying 3% shares the fans have.

We absorbed a lot under the Corney tenure and protected to some degree the club from a bad social media fallout. There are people who work there at the end of the day. Corney was good at keeping most of the fans onside. 

We want to work with the owner, understand what potential hurdles the club have or up and coming and help if we can. 

We fans are his customers and unless I totally have it wrong, the majority are not happy and want to "protest" in different ways that could affect the club.  He needs to engage/persuade the fans that he is the right custodian of our club, which he could have done much sooner if he had engaged with the Trust as well.

We even suggested over summer last year/early season that we hold meet the owner events, small setting at the Milan bar Morrocan themed nights. Small ,so he did not feel overpowered but he was away at the World cup and the timing was not right.

We have tried and the door remain's open

9 hours ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

I wouldn’t call someone who acted like that a fellow fan. He can’t do that and get away with it, he’ll think it’s ok and do it to others. 

Your right

If I don't report it as a fan first then I am accepting this behaviour and TBH I would not like to see any other person be confronted in that manner either I would have stepped in myself if I did.

So yes I will log it with the club.

cheers everyone.

least the football did not ruin our weekends eh

1 minute ago, singe said:

I really think you should log it Tracey. 

They've banned people for.less. 

Cheers. 

I took the police officers numbers who intervened and I did speak to a couple of stewards for advice and one did log it in a book as well. 

I don;t want to see a fellow fan banned as we need all we can get. 

7 minutes ago, OAFC_ULTRA said:

He was bouncing around the north stand before the game showing people messages on his phone saying he will ‘expose them’. He appears to be a complete tosser

oh god I don't think I could cope with a Birkett exposure this time of night....well not in person.(shiver)

I genuinely have no idea what he is going on about nor have I had the opportunity to address what ever it is as I/or the Trust have done.

7 minutes ago, Monty Burns said:

Is it too soon for an inappropriate joke?

heheh....I meant as in a friendly handshake around the neck.

its never too early ooer missus....I am a lady you know

2 hours ago, kowenicki said:

When did the letter go in? 

Apologies for delayed. We have advised two people at the club. Owner Mr Lemsagam and club secretary Mark Sheridan both have have received or will receive the following:

Emails sent to both on Thursday by me on behalf of the Trust

Two hand delivered to the club on Friday by me on behalf of the Trust  and I advised them at the same time that 

Two had been sent recorded delivery on the Friday as well

Cheers

10 minutes ago, maddog said:

 

Do, Tracy. Out of order. Hope you’re ok. 

IS that your professional diagnosis/reaction? hahah

I don;t know if him or me would make an excellent case for you..

Hope you are okay 

4 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

The actress which played Olive was actually a former beauty queen.

 

there is hope for me yet....just hard a flash back of that competion Miss Latics I think like Miss world...oh dear

27 minutes ago, League one forever said:

Soothe yourself with the fact that you can talk in complete sentences, and he can’t. 

 

 

you have not seen me after a few sherberts then..haha

3 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

If Chuckle is a member of the Trust can he be expelled for threatening a senior member of the Trust? 

I can confirm he is 100% not a member of the Trust......phew!