ThaiLatic Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1550889.ece Diego will have to revise his North West/Midlands argument if you all have to move to the south east!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 what do you expect from the sun ,if it was THE TIMES i would belive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I also read it in The Guardian, Bob (I like a balanced view ;)) but as The Sun mentions Oldham by name I thought I'd post that link. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/au...es.regeneration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 ah the Tories yet again they will lose the next general election ,but i hope brown is not pm he is a real turd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Just for you, Bob. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle4518991.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 The report by Policy Exchange, whose director recently went to head Boris Johnson’s policy team, says that many northern cities including Bolton and Oldham have “lost much of their raison d’être”. Following the decline of industry they had “little prospect of offering their residents the standard of living to which they aspire blame the tories for the decline of industry , labour was great with harold wilson as pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) for you thailatic[ http://www.guardian.co.uk/quiz/questions/0,,369950,00.html northerner quiz Edited August 13, 2008 by boboafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 i got this You scored 22 Well done, you're a relatively normal human being who gets just about the right number of answers wrong. You may still be under the illusion that much of the north is like Corrie, but you do also understand that the north is a genuine cultural crucible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Ee bah gum!!! I scored 27. Not bad considering I haven't lived oop north since 1994!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Ee bah gum!!! I scored 27. Not bad considering I haven't lived oop north since 1994!! But I got 28/30 and it said the same thing about being normal. I don't know. You get born on the South coast and you have to live with it forever. Bloody mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1550889.ece Diego will have to revise his North West/Midlands argument if you all have to move to the south east!! Oxford and Cambridge are not in the South East - they're in the Midlands! The region is classed as London and the South East, meaning the part of the country South and East of London geographically. At the risk of incurring the wrath of otid, how many times do I have to repeat that ignorance is bliss? Journalists my arse! Edited August 13, 2008 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 what do you expect from the sun ,if it was THE TIMES i would belive it Bob, they both have the same owner, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 The paper was written by Tim Leunig, a lecturer at the London School of Economics. The main issues with re-generation are that the people at the lowest end – the poorest, are seen to be making the least out of such projects. However, if they move to say Oxford or Cambridge, how are they going to afford the housing which is damn sight more expensive than up here. In fact, it will only serve to widen the poverty gap and therefore make those who are most worse off, even more so. Me thinks its an attack on Labour regeneration policy aimed at getting into the headlines rather than something that means anything. Interesting enough, I was chatting to a Danish Urban planner at a musical festival in Denmark recently, and he seems to think Manchester (even though it has its problems) is a great example of regeneration and the Danish Government are using it as the basis for which to regenerate some of its towns and cities outside Copenhagen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelylaticsfaninaus Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dust thee think Melbourne's far enuff souf then!! I buggered off years ago!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Oxford and Cambridge are not in the South East - they're in the Midlands! The region is classed as London and the South East, meaning the part of the country South and East of London geographically. At the risk of incurring the wrath of otid, how many times do I have to repeat that ignorance is bliss? Journalists my arse! So in the wonderful dreamworld of Diego's mind, nearly all of Essex,and places like Luton, Wycombe, Slough, Woking and Guildford are not in the South East. Someone's been hitting the Marmite pretty hard this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I've just about grasped it now. So, everywhere from Berwick to Brighton is in the midlands, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I've just about grasped it now. So, everywhere from Berwick to Brighton is in the midlands, right? Except for a 400 yard wide strip along the East and West coasts, yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 So in the wonderful dreamworld of Diego's mind, nearly all of Essex,and places like Luton, Wycombe, Slough, Woking and Guildford are not in the South East. Someone's been hitting the Marmite pretty hard this morning... I was refering to the journalist's inclusion of Oxford and Cambridge in the South East, not the places to which you refer. Luton is North of Oxford = South Midlands Slough, Woking & Guildford are in the South East as I described it. OK so Essex is North East of London and Wycome & Slough are West of London rather than South or East of it, but that's just splitting hairs which I don't like doing, because if you do that you're told to get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I was refering to the journalist's inclusion of Oxford and Cambridge in the South East, not the places to which you refer. Luton is North of Oxford = South Midlands Slough, Woking & Guildford are in the South East as I described it. OK so Essex is North East of London and Wycome & Slough are West of London rather than South or East of it, but that's just splitting hairs which I don't like doing, because if you do that you're told to get a life. Slough is West of London. Guildford and Woking are Southwest of London. The South starts becoming the Midlands somwhere around Northampton. Cambridge falls under the pull of East Anglia, which is a parallel universe all of it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Slough is West of London. Guildford and Woking are Southwest of London. The South starts becoming the Midlands somwhere around Northampton. Cambridge falls under the pull of East Anglia, which is a parallel universe all of it's own. Without wishing to back up Diego's crackpot theories , if the South becomes the Midlands around Northampton surely the North would become the Midlands at the same distance from the Scottish Border as Northampton is from the South Coast? By my reckoning that is a line running approximately from Middlesbrough to Preston. Oldham is clearly to the South of this line. The extent of your cull may have just got a lot bigger, LL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Slough is West of London. Guildford and Woking are Southwest of London. The South starts becoming the Midlands somwhere around Northampton. Cambridge falls under the pull of East Anglia, which is a parallel universe all of it's own. Blimey O'Riley, I was simply pointing out that Oxford and Cambridge are not in the South East, and then we get this biggest tirade of London commuter towns since Sir John Betjemin was alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I've just about grasped it now. So, everywhere from Berwick to Brighton is in the midlands, right? Readers, who had understood previously my blowing apart of the popular geographical misconceptions, may be confused by this outlandish interpretation of what I have been saying. I would ask you not to believe it as it comes from someone whose name is extracted from a land beyond England's Southern shore. I am preprared to spend as long as it taes to point out where popular anomalies have been created over the years, but with doing this and being so busy living my life, I have not yet had chance to catch up on everybody's posts about last night's match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Without wishing to back up Diego's crackpot theories , if the South becomes the Midlands around Northampton surely the North would become the Midlands at the same distance from the Scottish Border as Northampton is from the South Coast? By my reckoning that is a line running approximately from Middlesbrough to Preston. Oldham is clearly to the South of this line. The extent of your cull may have just got a lot bigger, LL The problem is trying to bring mathematics (one of my best subjects today) into it, which isn't what regionalisms are about. For example, the Pennines dictate whether you are in the East or the West, even though they are not exactly in the middle - likewise, Yorkshire isn't in the Northeast because, as wrong as it is as a place, it is bloody big and therefore counts as Yorkshire, leaving a large area with a distinctive character of it's own to be the Northeast. Lancashire on the othe hand picks up those bits around it that aren't really worth mentioning under the Northwest region. Diego's attempts at defining strict rules mean that Hereford is in central England from East to West, whereas it is of course on the extreme West, given that you are in Wales if you go any further... And regarding the cull, although I am correct in this argument, don't doubt that if I err when defining legitimate targets, I will err on the side of caution, caution not to allow any Midlanders to escape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe it should be split by population distribution rather than simple geography? Mind you, if that was the case the Midlands would start somewhere near Highgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 By my reckoning that is a line running approximately from Middlesbrough to Preston. Oldham is clearly to the South of this line. Brilliant, you're all a bunch of Southern Nancy Boys. OldhamSheridan with his Durham cap on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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