martjs Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 This is a defining moment in the history of the world. Out with the Republicans and their selfish cronyism... We can't vote as we don't have US citizenship. But we would have no hesitation in voting for Barack Obama. Who would you vote for if you could vote in this Presidential Election? (Maybe we should do a poll?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I wouldn’t vote for anybody who thinks it’s a good idea to nationalise the banking system. There’s nothing in either to appeal to be honest, McCain supports military conscription, Obama will spunk countless billions on a thousand and one corrupt Federal programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeykieran Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I wouldn’t vote for anybody who thinks it’s a good idea to nationalise the banking system. There’s nothing in either to appeal to be honest, McCain supports military conscription, Obama will spunk countless billions on a thousand and one corrupt Federal programs.Agreed in principle. Both spell trouble for the US in my opinion I wouldn't vote for either, each is a reactionary vote against the other only. The only plus is that I hope if/when Obama gets in that this may change a few global attitudes about the US (as well as those attitudes internally), and for that reason I would vote for him in this instance today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Couldn't really care less who wins myself, so long as they spend the next three months telling us about it. I feel the year and a half of reporting on someone elses elections wasn't nearly enough and think they should start immediately after this one. What are we going for then? I'll give him 3-6 months before some redneck "24 series 5's" him. Edited November 4, 2008 by OldhamSheridan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeykieran Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Couldn't really care less who wins myself, so long as they spend the next three months telling us about it. I feel the year and a half of reporting on someone elses elections wasn't nearly enough and think they should start immediately after this one. What are we going for then? I'll give him 3-6 months before some redneck "24 series 5's" him. 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 i think the fact sarah palin could be given a position of world power is feckin scary! mccain has come over as a bumbling fool at times too. not really taking much interest till the last week and obama seems to be the only one with a full set of marbles. lesser of the 2 evils i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I've been worrying about the assassination problem for a while now. Joe Biden ain't that bad. McCain and Palin are both nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 i think the fact sarah palin could be given a position of world power is feckin scary! mccain has come over as a bumbling fool at times too. not really taking much interest till the last week and obama seems to be the only one with a full set of marbles. lesser of the 2 evils i suppose. Thank you Johnny! I've tried to make this a poll question - my first ever so please bear with me if I mess it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think you'll find that Barrack is the maverick compared to John. Incidentally, Palin's experience cant really be drawn on. She was the mayor of a town, population 6000 and the guv'nor of a state that has a third of the population of Manhatten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think you'll find that Barrack is the maverick compared to John. I'm pretty sure you won't. McCain has spent decades working almost as an independent in Congress, which is part of why a lot of his own party wouldn't get out of bed to help his campaign. Whilst I challenge you to mention anything radical about Obama for a Democrat candidate other than the fact that white people are willing to vote for him even though he's black and has a name that suggests he's a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'm pretty sure you won't. McCain has spent decades working almost as an independent in Congress, which is part of why a lot of his own party wouldn't get out of bed to help his campaign. Whilst I challenge you to mention anything radical about Obama for a Democrat candidate other than the fact that white people are willing to vote for him even though he's black and has a name that suggests he's a Muslim. Yes but fact is, he has. Obama is a Junior, not even senior senator of Illinois, John McCain has been the senior senator for Arizona for twenty years! Regardless of his parties support in the past (which he obviously has now!). Obama has 0 experience compared to McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I couldn't give a , ignorant I know but between them they have blown the national defecit of a small nation just to get elected. Criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Yes but fact is, he has. Obama is a Junior, not even senior senator of Illinois, John McCain has been the senior senator for Arizona for twenty years! Regardless of his parties support in the past (which he obviously has now!). Obama has 0 experience compared to McCain. But that isn't what, "maverick," means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Regardless of his parties support in the past (which he obviously has now!). It's not that obvious to me that McCain has the support of the Republican party. Where's his money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjs Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Yes but fact is, he has. Obama is a Junior, not even senior senator of Illinois, John McCain has been the senior senator for Arizona for twenty years! Regardless of his parties support in the past (which he obviously has now!). Obama has 0 experience compared to McCain. The big shame in all this is that McCain changed his views to try and get elected. He sold his soul to the devil (Bush, Cheney & Rove) after they used dirty trick campaign against him & his family in the Republican Nomination election of 2000. He had to move to the right and appoint that idiot (yes, idiot) Palin as his running mate to get the votes of the Christian right wing "base" of the GOP. The whole thing has backfired and Obama will win... But I'll be in Canada tonight just in case I'm wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It's not that obvious to me that McCain has the support of the Republican party. Where's his money? Also true. I believe that Obama is making 'new rules' compared to McCain who is using age old republican policy to progress his case for president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky_Latic Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Obama and History to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Also true. I believe that Obama is making 'new rules' compared to McCain who is using age old republican policy to progress his case for president. It's true that Obama has had a grass roots element to his organisation which is new - made possible I think by the race issue and his (relative, especially compared to McCain, but also to the Witch Clinton). He has mobilised both masses of black activists and white ones who are pleased to have a black candidate who isn't a racialist loon like Jesse Jackson who they can get behind. He's actually not brought anything novel at all to the policy debate though, he just says, "change," a lot, which is all it takes after 8 years of W and fighting against firstly Hillary and then McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It's true that Obama has had a grass roots element to his organisation which is new - made possible I think by the race issue and his (relative, especially compared to McCain, but also to the Witch Clinton). He has mobilised both masses of black activists and white ones who are pleased to have a black candidate who isn't a racialist loon like Jesse Jackson who they can get behind. He's actually not brought anything novel at all to the policy debate though, he just says, "change," a lot, which is all it takes after 8 years of W and fighting against firstly Hillary and then McCain. True, which is why I think Obama will win, while he isnt the strongest candidate. Obama has activated the 'black' vote along with the democrats thats would have voted for Clinton. McCain has the experience (Palin excepted) having served in the army. Obama will win, but he is the wrong candidate to win. Lets face it, Obama is an unknown quantity. Granted he has shown an unprecidented public persona but who actually knows what Obama stands for? No-one. McCain is the the 'known' candidate even though he is likley to lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 John McCains barmy army ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 True, which is why I think Obama will win, while he isnt the strongest candidate. Obama has activated the 'black' vote along with the democrats thats would have voted for Clinton. McCain has the experience (Palin excepted) having served in the army. Obama will win, but he is the wrong candidate to win. Lets face it, Obama is an unknown quantity. Granted he has shown an unprecidented public persona but who actually knows what Obama stands for? No-one. McCain is the the 'known' candidate even though he is likley to lose! You are only young Si.... Clinton did fantastically well at winning the black vote, that's the only reason why his evil wife could even put a fight up in that area of the Democratic caucuses against a credible and popular black candidate. But Obama was considered dull until it started to look possible that he might win it. He has the charisma of a plank of wood, he's just been able to be packaged as, "fresh," because all of the other candidates were extremely, "sameish," and he has one unique factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) I've been worrying about the assassination problem for a while now. The two bulletproof screens are ready for the victory celebration. Thereafter he will not go near any grassy knolls. Edited November 5, 2008 by Diego_Sideburns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Wish they could call Florida so I can go to bed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The two bulletproof screens are ready for the victory celebration. Thereafter he will not go near any grassy knolls. The way America is and judging by some of the comments their people were making on the news, he might need to stay in a bullet proof box as long as he's president. There's some very strange people over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The way America is and judging by some of the comments their people were making on the news, he might need to stay in a bullet proof box as long as he's president. There's some very strange people over there. I've a feeling that man is going to be walking through more than one set of crosshairs between now and the end of his term. I wonder whether, after that victory speech and that poetry about change, he went off into a backroom and said, ":censored:, Joe. What the f*** did I mean by that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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