singe Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We know many are not going to be here next season, so who would you build the team around? Flemming Hazelll, Gregan Taylor, Not sure we quite have half a core decent side at the moment. And to me we need to look at each case, but Defence and striker are most critical. We concede sloppy goals and miss too many easier chances. The rest need to be filled with better than we have already, I believe. WIth some good backup/to be developed. Others might make a case in the next few games such as Lee, Smalley. etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 If we can keep him everything has to go around Taylor. If Joe can get him consistent (and we all know how good he is at that) then he has the potential to be the foundation of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Fleming Hazell Gregan Eardley (the one who turned up v Crewe) NEW LEFT BACK Taylor NEW CENTRAL MIDFIELD NEW CENTRAL MIDFIELD Smalley with the ability to cross or a new right midfield Alessandra NEW BIG CENTRE FORWARD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) Fleming Hazell Gregan Eardley (the one who turned up v Crewe) NEW LEFT BACK Taylor NEW CENTRAL MIDFIELD NEW CENTRAL MIDFIELD Smalley with the ability to cross or a new right midfield Alessandra NEW BIG CENTRE FORWARD Dont think thats how joe will think though, think its obvious he doesnt rate allesandra or fleming, and sees taylor as a striker Hence I would go with NEW GK (supple prob) New LB Eardley Hazell Gregan New LW New RW Lee Allott/Westake NEW CF (built like brick s t house) Taylor Edited April 18, 2009 by Lookers_Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) Dont think thats how joe will think though, think its obvious he doesnt rate allesandra or fleming, and sees taylor as a striker None of that is obvious. He's made a confidence building statement about Taylor as a striker (retains that as an option), chosen to play Supple to have a longer look at him with a view to signing him (or not) next season and has yet to play Alessandra in the hole. Royle knows who's under contract next season and knows who isn't. He's made team selections to try and work out exactly who's up to it and who isn't - who would be worth signing, keeping or ditching. Edited April 18, 2009 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) None of that is obvious. He's made a confidence building statement about Taylor as a striker (retains that as an option), chosen to play Supple to have a longer look at him with a view to signing him (or not) next season and has yet to play Alessandra in the hole. Royle knows who's under contract next season and knows who isn't. He's made team selections to try and work out exactly who's up to it and who isn't - who would be worth signing, keeping or ditching. I'm sure all will be revealed at the end of the season, if indeed he stays. I personally hope fleming is no1 next season, think with a bit of good coaching he could be a superb keeper. Although if he chooses to sign supple permanent, I would imagine supple will start next season as number 1. Edited April 18, 2009 by Lookers_Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Scowcroft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Fleming and Supple fighting it out for the keeper's jersey would be excellent. I don't think Crossley will play next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Fleming and Supple fighting it out for the keeper's jersey would be excellent. I don't think Crossley will play next season. I dont think crossley will be at the club next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfOAFC Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Fleming + A N Other (maybe Supple) Eardley Gregan New, young but reasonably established/experienced CB (as important as a new goalscorer for me) New LB Taylor or new "old fashioned JR style" out and out left winger Allott/Maher - both still half decent players at this level New Attacking Mid (Whittaker as cover) Taylor or new "old fashioned JR style" out and out right winger 3 new strikers - one wise old head (preferably a big lump), one up and comer + A N Other. Smalley & Allessandra as cover - I think he fancies Allessandra. Using him sparingly maybe because he's already in his plans for next season? Easy to manage player - "keep doing what you're doing but stay on your feet and off your arse a bit more" should just about get the best out of him. Cover - Stam, Lee, Lomax, Hazell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) If we can get Jones next season: ----------------Fleming------------------------------- Eardley----Rubes-----Gregan----new left back Taylor------new cm-----new cm------Jones -----new striker--------new striker Subs: Smalley Lee Allott Stam New keeper Edited April 18, 2009 by Bring Back Pukka Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfOAFC Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 what's Allott done wrong? one of very few players to come out of this season with any credit whatsoever IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 what's Allott done wrong? one of very few players to come out of this season with any credit whatsoever IMO It's not so much what he does wrong, it's what else do we want a midfield to do. Look at the midfield. Decent players, so often over-run. Allott's a big part of that. Defence hoofing the ball to bypass the midfield - does the midfield really want the ball? Does it come looking for the ball. The 4-4-2 since October has been rigid, inflexible and, how can I put it, crap. My concern about sticking with Allott is that we end up with more of the same. My concern about ditching him is that we'd end up even worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 what's Allott done wrong? one of very few players to come out of this season with any credit whatsoever IMO Nothing, but he's not good enough for a team pushing for promotion, he's a tackler, and a battler but doesn't have a pass. Whitaker Maher Allott They came from teams relegated to the division below, they might have been those teams best player but they're not League One promotion material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Anybody heard the Matt Holland rumour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We have two high quality young players IMO: Taylor and Eardley. Smalley and Alessandra are also young and talented and should be at the heart of team-building. Lee certainly has flair, would like to see him when he is match fit. Gregan reads the game so well I would like to see us get another season from him. Lomax is a solid lower division full-back and I would keep him. Not so sure about anyone else: Jones, if he wanted to sign up, has a lot to offer but is suspect defensively. Fleming, I have never seen play badly but both Shez and Joe have been quick to drop him at the first opportunity which makes me wonder. Hazell and Allott, players I have admired in the past, seem to be much less effective at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 This is the squad we have had this season: Crossley - getting on a bit (well a lot) but still had something to offer. Fleming - looks like a very good keeper to me Eardley - great overlapping defender with a thunderous shot Lomax - steady eddy full back Jones - exciting overlapping full back Hazell - solid defender ... one of the first names on the team sheet Gregan - reliable, experienced captain Stam - capable of stepping in. Part of a solid defence last season Allott - player of the year last season Whitaker - at last, a midfielder who can get forward and score goals with both feet Liddell - capable of delivering a great ball Smalley - loads of pace Taylor - skill, pace and goals - looks more and more like the complete player for this level Maher - composure and experience Lee - exciting young prospect who has captained Man Utd's reserves Hughes - goal poacher of the highest calibre Alessandra - link man of great promise Davies - loads of pace and leading scorer last season O'Grady - skill and pace, but a lack of goals I'm sorry, how Shez failed with that lot I don't know. Loads of ability. Why did they let the momentum slip? How they have performed so poorly for Royle is even more extraordinary. Something is rotten at the heart of the squad and how Royle deals with this is already making interesting viewing - assuming he takes the job this summer is going to be fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 This is the squad we have had this season: Crossley - getting on a bit (well a lot) but still had something to offer. Fleming - looks like a very good keeper to me Eardley - great overlapping defender with a thunderous shot Lomax - steady eddy full back Jones - exciting overlapping full back Hazell - solid defender ... one of the first names on the team sheet Gregan - reliable, experienced captain Stam - capable of stepping in. Part of a solid defence last season Allott - player of the year last season Whitaker - at last, a midfielder who can get forward and score goals with both feet Liddell - capable of delivering a great ball Smalley - loads of pace Taylor - skill, pace and goals - looks more and more like the complete player for this level Maher - composure and experience Lee - exciting young prospect who has captained Man Utd's reserves Hughes - goal poacher of the highest calibre Alessandra - link man of great promise Davies - loads of pace and leading scorer last season O'Grady - skill and pace, but a lack of goals I'm sorry, how Shez failed with that lot I don't know. Loads of ability. Why did they let the momentum slip? How they have performed so poorly for Royle is even more extraordinary. Something is rotten at the heart of the squad and how Royle deals with this is already making interesting viewing - assuming he takes the job this summer is going to be fascinating. his post match comments sum it up why this squad has done so badly. they think they new better than shez and they now think they know better than joe. they dont want to be told how to play,they think they know it all already so dont play as a team or in units..ie defence midfield and attack,its all individual. i hope he rips the team to the bear bones and think he will only keep the players he has praised,plus lee,stephens. if they dont respect him or show him they care he wont think about it for 2 seconds..he will get rid pronto he wants young energetic players who have a hunger and a desire to do well,instead of the pile of :censored: we have.if he get rid now he would,but we have 2 games left and have to field a full team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 This is the squad we have had this season: Crossley - getting on a bit (well a lot) but still had something to offer. Fleming - looks like a very good keeper to me Eardley - great overlapping defender with a thunderous shot Lomax - steady eddy full back Jones - exciting overlapping full back Hazell - solid defender ... one of the first names on the team sheet Gregan - reliable, experienced captain Stam - capable of stepping in. Part of a solid defence last season Allott - player of the year last season Whitaker - at last, a midfielder who can get forward and score goals with both feet Liddell - capable of delivering a great ball Smalley - loads of pace Taylor - skill, pace and goals - looks more and more like the complete player for this level Maher - composure and experience Lee - exciting young prospect who has captained Man Utd's reserves Hughes - goal poacher of the highest calibre Alessandra - link man of great promise Davies - loads of pace and leading scorer last season O'Grady - skill and pace, but a lack of goals I'm sorry, how Shez failed with that lot I don't know. Loads of ability. Why did they let the momentum slip? How they have performed so poorly for Royle is even more extraordinary. Something is rotten at the heart of the squad and how Royle deals with this is already making interesting viewing - assuming he takes the job this summer is going to be fascinating. Specs. Tinted. Rose Peterborough have McClean, Mackail-Smith and Boyd. We had O'Grady, Davies and Allott. 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Specs. Tinted. Rose Beginning to think I believed in the buggers for about 5 months longer than I should have done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefield-oldham Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We know many are not going to be here next season, so who would you build the team around? Flemming Hazelll, Gregan Taylor, Not sure we quite have half a core decent side at the moment. And to me we need to look at each case, but Defence and striker are most critical. We concede sloppy goals and miss too many easier chances. The rest need to be filled with better than we have already, I believe. WIth some good backup/to be developed. Others might make a case in the next few games such as Lee, Smalley. etc my team would be built around graham kavanagh,not sure if he is still at carlisle or not but when he was here earlier in the season he put a masterclass performance in..he made a very ordinary side look good.he dictates the pace of the game and is able to find that killer pass..If i was gaffer i would find 2 graffters either side of him in the middle of the park and 2 good forwards looking for that through ball..alexandra and wolfy are either fighting a long punt from gregan or eardly and they seem to play with their backs to goal all game(not their fault if not getting right service).love to see a good right winger because there isnt a lot of good left backs about at the moment and its a possible source of supply to the forwards.got to get rid of hazell,we cant keep on conceding goals like we do and replace him with a 6ft3 centre half.stam would go as well,,doesnt look the same player since that bad injury.Iwant to see my full backs overlapping especially at home.All the goalkeepers on the books lack height,i would get a 6ft 3 keeper in straight away..I would play taylor in the hole between the forwards and the midfield linking up with kavanagh,he would be a great threat from there..i dont see him as an out and out forward,i cant see him scoring enough goals,he is better running at players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 If we can keep him everything has to go around Taylor. If Joe can get him consistent (and we all know how good he is at that) then he has the potential to be the foundation of this team. Can you really build a side around a winger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Can you really build a side around a winger? I though we tried this season!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I though we tried this season!! I wouldnt agree with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I wouldnt agree with that... nah, can't work out what we built it round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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