creepy Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...t-make-the-move He says if Cardiff would have stayed at Ninion Park, they were destined to be a Championship/league 1 yo yo club, with a ground that could hold only 14000 The move to the new 27000 seater stadium, will allow them to push for Premier league status. interesting comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...t-make-the-move He says if Cardiff would have stayed at Ninion Park, they were destined to be a Championship/league 1 yo yo club, with a ground that could hold only 14000 The move to the new 27000 seater stadium, will allow them to push for Premier league status. interesting comments While very possibly agreeing with the sentiment, wasn't he the man who spent £2,000 a month on goldfish and destroyed the financial viability of an established Premiership Club who haven't quite managed the upward yo after their downward yo since? Edited September 1, 2009 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I still think he should have bought the club, looking at Cardiff now! But then again TTA aint been bad to us so you cannot moan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...t-make-the-move He says if Cardiff would have stayed at Ninion Park, they were destined to be a Championship/league 1 yo yo club, with a ground that could hold only 14000 The move to the new 27000 seater stadium, will allow them to push for Premier league status. interesting comments oh no dont let corp see this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...t-make-the-move He says if Cardiff would have stayed at Ninion Park, they were destined to be a Championship/league 1 yo yo club, with a ground that could hold only 14000 The move to the new 27000 seater stadium, will allow them to push for Premier league status. interesting comments Cardiff have a much larger number of fans who wil turn up if the club is doing well, and they have only moved across the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 By building a 12000 seater, are we hoping to be a yo yo club at the most is that our ambition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 By building a 12000 seater, are we hoping to be a yo yo club at the most is that our ambition? Well I can't see us being able to survive in the Championship on crowds of 12000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 By building a 12000 seater, are we hoping to be a yo yo club at the most is that our ambition? 'At the most' we are, as things stand, destined to yo-yo between the third and fourth divisions, although the club's track record on yo-yoing is poor indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ninian Park needed up dating 15 years ago (when we played them in the cup and Holdsworth had a stormer) more than BP does now. Considering the Welsh FA are seriously considering moving some of Wales internationals there I doubt he regrets moving to a big stadium even if Cardiff weren't doing as well as they are. I would also imagine that it might be used to hold of of Cardiff's Rugby games (the big but not massive ones). Plus Ninian Park had a lot of standing and I think the only reason why it still had a lot of standing at the end was because Cardiff were moving- if they weren't going to move the FA would have made them turn all the standing into seats- which would have proved quite costly. In summary Risdale is talking out of his harris (as per) trying to make his business decisions look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Cardiff have a much larger number of fans who wil turn up if the club is doing well, and they have only moved across the road That's why they are building a 27000 capacity ground. But the 16000 capacity stadium we were promised wasn't beyond us before it was decided to consign the club to permanent lower division status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniecooksey4 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 why is peter ridsdale commenting on oldham?? its a bit random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 In summary Risdale is talking out of his harris (as per) trying to make his business decisions look better. It's true that a 14000 capacity ground is inadequate for Championship football, let alone one that purports to have PL ambitions, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ninian Park needed up dating 15 years ago (when we played them in the cup and Holdsworth had a stormer) Don't you mean Hallworth? Our ex-keeper? :censored: a brick, the hailstones that day. Brr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ninian Park needed up dating 15 years ago (when we played them in the cup and Holdsworth had a stormer) more than BP does now. Considering the In summary Risdale is talking out of his harris (as per) trying to make his business decisions look better. Where he is talking nonsense is in 'backing' the proposed Latics stadium, as if the respective ambitions of the two clubs are in any way similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) its very interesting how 14000 seats wont work for were they want to be but 12000 will work for us, to were we want to be Edited September 1, 2009 by creepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 its very interesting how 14000 seats wont work for were they want to be but 12000 will work for us, to were we want to be They want to be in the PL. Latics have decided to stay in the lower divisions. That's the difference. Even those who try to fool themselves into thinking that it isn't the case know, deep down, that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Don't you mean Hallworth? Our ex-keeper? :censored: a brick, the hailstones that day. Brr. Yep that's the one knew I hadn't spelt it quite right. I don't remember the bad weather- I was sat down under cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 They want to be in the PL. Latics have decided to stay in the lower divisions. That's the difference. Even those who try to fool themselves into thinking that it isn't the case know, deep down, that it is. decided to stay in lower divisions? why would you think that the owners of a football club would aim to bring the club down? so far as i can see the aim of TTA is to build a stable, profitable football club from this stable basis the club can then realistically aim for championship status in which case the stadium can be developed further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Cardiff have a much larger number of fans who wil turn up if the club is doing well, and they have only moved across the road And also no other competing clubs in the city. Additionally, if you are from Cardiff, you are not going to be supporting Swansea. Max Min Avg 2004/5 17,006 10,007 12,976 16th 2005/6 16,403 8,724 11,720 11th 2006/7 20,109 11,549 15,223 13th 2007/8 18,840 11,006 13,937 12th 2008/9 20,156 15,902 18,044 7th So far 22, 264 v Scunthorpe for the first match 20,853 for a derby v Bristol City in August. To early to say but the previous year, it was 19,749 for the opener v Southampton, and 19,312 v Britsol City a month later. So about 5% increase, and 7,000 empty seats. Is Risdale repeating history and living beyond his means? In the current economic climate, he would not get the £50m he spent I predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 And also no other competing clubs in the city. Additionally, if you are from Cardiff, you are not going to be supporting Swansea. Max Min Avg 2004/5 17,006 10,007 12,976 16th 2005/6 16,403 8,724 11,720 11th 2006/7 20,109 11,549 15,223 13th 2007/8 18,840 11,006 13,937 12th 2008/9 20,156 15,902 18,044 7th So far 22, 264 v Scunthorpe for the first match 20,853 for a derby v Bristol City in August. To early to say but the previous year, it was 19,749 for the opener v Southampton, and 19,312 v Britsol City a month later. So about 5% increase, and 7,000 empty seats. Is Risdale repeating history and living beyond his means? In the current economic climate, he would not get the £50m he spent I predict. If they are challenging for promotion they will fill the 27,000 seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) And also no other competing clubs in the city. Additionally, if you are from Cardiff, you are not going to be supporting Swansea. or if you are City or United, you are not going to support Oldham Edited September 1, 2009 by creepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 decided to stay in lower divisions? why would you think that the owners of a football club would aim to bring the club down? so far as i can see the aim of TTA is to build a stable, profitable football club from this stable basis the club can then realistically aim for championship status in which case the stadium can be developed further. Okay. Have it your way. But don't say nobody told you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downender2 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 comparing Cardiff - capital of Wales to Oldham.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 comparing Cardiff - capital of Wales to Oldham.... Nobody's actually done that. But the capital of Wales-wow, I see what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 comparing Cardiff - capital of Wales to Oldham.... Thats not the case its a case of comparing where Cardiff want to be, to where we want to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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