Prendy_1984 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The borough of Oldham has a population of around 220,000. The town certainly doesn't seem smaller to me, and I've visited Colchester on quite a few occasions, and not just for football. I'd compare the size of Colchester more with somewhere like Bury, to be honest, but without being part of a very large conurbation like Greater Manchester. The main point I was making was that in terms of the club's history Colchester are showing some ambition, while we seem to be consoldating at the level where we're currently at-and only fifteen years after the club's best ever period. In that 220,000 you need to consider the culture of certain communities within Oldham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Oldhams slightly smaller than Colchester I believe? Ill admit we have had a weaker history but the potential is definately there, the borough and surrounding towns have a population of 180 odd thousand, there is quite a lot of money in north essex, and we have a young chairman worth over 100 million. I like to think in time we could become as big as Ipswich in time, a solid championship side with occassional forays up into the premier league and down into league one (and believe me, Im no optimist!). Your right in a way though, the big problem for us is our history of being "S**T." When I was growing up Colchester were a skint, unglamourous side and it will take a long time to shake that image off in the minds of the townsfolk. good luck with that. Can't see you going up this season but maybe next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 In that 220,000 you need to consider the culture of certain communities within Oldham. There's nothing stopping them coming to watch us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) In that 220,000 you need to consider the culture of certain communities within Oldham. Whether those of an Asian background are ever likely to regularly follow Latics is neither here nor there when you consider that Burnley, Bolton, Blackburn, Preston etc have minorities from the same cultural backgrounds and manage to attract an average attendance of anything up to five or six times that of Latics. Stockport, meanwhile, is larger than Oldham and has relatively few Asians... The moral of the story: having minorities in a town has eff all to do with the attendances of the local football club, and achievements on the pitch everything to do with it. Edited November 23, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Whether those of an Asian background are ever likely to regularly follow Latics is neither here nor there when you consider that Burnley, Bolton, Blackburn, Preston etc have minorities from the same cultural backgrounds and manage to attract an average attendance of anything up to five or six times that of Latics. Stockport, meanwhile, is larger than Oldham and has relatively few Asians... The moral of the story: having minorities in a town has eff all to do with the attendances of the local football club, and achievements on the pitch everything to do with it. I thought he meant Shaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 There's nothing stopping them coming to watch us though. other than the afforementioned culture. going to football on a saturday afternoon is not what asians do, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I thought he meant Shaw? That's typical. There's too much Gorbyism on here and it's not nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I am glad you all got the reward for going. We was happy for you all in the chat room today I must admit when I heard the attendance today it made me want to go. I think I will come to the Exeter game if the weekend is free. Mainly just because the attendances have dropped to low and I feel I have a duty to come in this situation. A bit of the bug is returning after having a break as well. Just started reading this thread and if the last 30-40 minutes were anything to go by I'd stick a deep sea diver on you getting the bug back....hesitantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 The borough of Oldham has a population of around 220,000. The town certainly doesn't seem smaller to me, and I've visited Colchester on quite a few occasions, and not just for football. I'd compare the size of Colchester more with somewhere like Bury, to be honest, but without being part of a very large conurbation like Greater Manchester. The main point I was making was that in terms of the club's history Colchester are showing some ambition, while we seem to be consoldating at the level where we're currently at-and only fifteen years after the club's best ever period. Mmmmmmm stones and glass houses...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Just started reading this thread and if the last 30-40 minutes were anything to go by I'd stick a deep sea diver on you getting the bug back....hesitantly What does that mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 What does that mean ? What does what mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 What does that mean ? Well a deep sea diver is rhyming slang for a fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Well a deep sea diver is rhyming slang for a fiver. Ah right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Mmmmmmm stones and glass houses...... What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I wish oafc0000 wouldn't post as often as he does. Every time I see those bloody sausages and sprig of parsley I feel hungry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 What? Pardon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I wish oafc0000 wouldn't post as often as he does. Every time I see those bloody sausages and sprig of parsley I feel hungry! Blame Max_Damage... I am supporting his "save the sausage" campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) other than the afforementioned culture. going to football on a saturday afternoon is not what asians do, end of. Which is irrelevant when you consider that Bolton, Burnley, Blackburn etc have just as many Asians residing in their boroughs and get far higher attendances than we do. Could it be that they have been doing summat right and we haven't? Jesus, the number of times you have to explain obvious things. Edited November 24, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Edit: wrong thread. Edited November 24, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Which is irrelevant when you consider that Bolton, Burnley, Blackburn etc have just as many Asians residing in their boroughs and get far higher attendances than we do. Could it be that they have been doing summat right and we haven't? Jesus, the number of times you have to explain obvious things. Yup... and if you ignore the large Asian presence at Old Trafford every weekend as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Jesus, the number of times you have to explain obvious things. Yeah, it's a real bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah, it's a real bummer. What-are you going to explain why the BP redevelopment is still on track despite the economic crisis? Here's a tip for you: repeating club statements ad infinitum isn't really explaining owt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 This started as a decent topic before all the "lets meet up, you're not a real Latics fan" playground rubbish. I think that the OP was right. The attendance (of which I was one and my son was another) was extreemly poor. Why aren't people going? Probably for a few reasons. Money is tight, run up to Christmas, bad weather, swine flu, poor recent performances, no goals in last 3 games, don't like the stands they now have to sit in, don't trust the owners, don't support Failsworth......there are a multitude of reasons. What is clear however, that something has changed in recent months. Many regulars just can't be arsed going anymore. I personally think that the heart and soul was ripped out of the club when the Lookers stand was torn down (in my view prematurely). It leaves many people disconcerted with how valued they are by he club, add to this, the fact that no-one was consulted about moving away from the BP site into Failsworth, and I think may people have decided that they have enough reasons now to spend (low cost, high value way to spend your time and not money). I am also considering just doing away matches in the future. Its a much better craic and you feel much more appreciated. People can talk economics and justify the life out of the reasons why you should go to the game and why you should support a move away from the BP site, but football is about PASSION, not just MONEY and if people dont like going to the match, they wont bloody well go. ........end of ramble....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 This started as a decent topic before all the "lets meet up, you're not a real Latics fan" playground rubbish. I think that the OP was right. The attendance (of which I was one and my son was another) was extreemly poor. Why aren't people going? Probably for a few reasons. Money is tight, run up to Christmas, bad weather, swine flu, poor recent performances, no goals in last 3 games, don't like the stands they now have to sit in, don't trust the owners, don't support Failsworth......there are a multitude of reasons. What is clear however, that something has changed in recent months. Many regulars just can't be arsed going anymore. I personally think that the heart and soul was ripped out of the club when the Lookers stand was torn down (in my view prematurely). It leaves many people disconcerted with how valued they are by he club, add to this, the fact that no-one was consulted about moving away from the BP site into Failsworth, and I think may people have decided that they have enough reasons now to spend (low cost, high value way to spend your time and not money). I am also considering just doing away matches in the future. Its a much better craic and you feel much more appreciated. People can talk economics and justify the life out of the reasons why you should go to the game and why you should support a move away from the BP site, but football is about PASSION, not just MONEY and if people dont like going to the match, they wont bloody well go. ........end of ramble....... Very true post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 This started as a decent topic before all the "lets meet up, you're not a real Latics fan" playground rubbish. I think that the OP was right. The attendance (of which I was one and my son was another) was extreemly poor. Why aren't people going? Probably for a few reasons. Money is tight, run up to Christmas, bad weather, swine flu, poor recent performances, no goals in last 3 games, don't like the stands they now have to sit in, don't trust the owners, don't support Failsworth......there are a multitude of reasons. What is clear however, that something has changed in recent months. Many regulars just can't be arsed going anymore. I personally think that the heart and soul was ripped out of the club when the Lookers stand was torn down (in my view prematurely). It leaves many people disconcerted with how valued they are by he club, add to this, the fact that no-one was consulted about moving away from the BP site into Failsworth, and I think may people have decided that they have enough reasons now to spend (low cost, high value way to spend your time and not money). I am also considering just doing away matches in the future. Its a much better craic and you feel much more appreciated. People can talk economics and justify the life out of the reasons why you should go to the game and why you should support a move away from the BP site, but football is about PASSION, not just MONEY and if people dont like going to the match, they wont bloody well go. ........end of ramble....... I suspect that the club has taken the attitude that 'it will get worse before it gets better,' in the hope that Failsworth revives the clubs fortunes and sees attendances rise again. Which makes the whole thing a massive gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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