Election 2010 - Pre Campaign Vote

[seasidelatic]

I wouldn't have thought that many Germans who supported national socialism in its early days would have done so if they knew what was coming

 

From the outset the Nazi party looked to persecute ethnic minorities and use them as a tool to gain support with the White majority, much like the BNP are doing right now.

 

This whole 'voluntary repatriation' thing that the BNP are talking about is almost beyond belief. Sending non-whites 'home' - where to, Levenshulme? That's where my black friend is from. His migration from Levenshulme to Salford for uni hasn't really ruined our economy.

[OldhamSheridan]

From the outset the Nazi party looked to persecute ethnic minorities and use them as a tool to gain support with the White majority, much like the BNP are doing right now.

 

This whole 'voluntary repatriation' thing that the BNP are talking about is almost beyond belief. Sending non-whites 'home' - where to, Levenshulme? That's where my black friend is from. His migration from Levenshulme to Salford for uni hasn't really ruined our economy.

 

 

That's pretty much why they will never get in anywhere. Their (only) policy regarding race is fantasy land. If they had genuine ideas of getting in and then doing away with large parts of the populous I'd imagine you wouldn't tell people that until you are in.

 

But, if you do vote for them it gets noticed. If they get alot of votes in an area people might start to question why seemingly sensible people from there are doing this.

[Dave_Og]

From the outset the Nazi party looked to persecute ethnic minorities and use them as a tool to gain support with the White majority, much like the BNP are doing right now.

 

This whole 'voluntary repatriation' thing that the BNP are talking about is almost beyond belief. Sending non-whites 'home' - where to, Levenshulme? That's where my black friend is from. His migration from Levenshulme to Salford for uni hasn't really ruined our economy.

I think you'll find we are agreeing!

[don't worry be happy]

Answering bit by bit...

 

 

I'd say that voting for an abomination with little to no values is a far better protest vote than any Green Party vote. It gets noticed, which is all you are after. Did any Green Party folks make the EMP bunch? I have no idea. Why? Because no one gives a :censored:. Get a BNP guy almost elected and it is big news and people will look at why.

 

I think the BNP stepping into the former steps of labour is a half truth on my behalf. It is in areas like Oldham, Rochdale and such where they can focus on race. It isn't up here (Durham), where a foreigner is someone from the village beyond. But the fact remains that labour have abandoned their voters. I really wonder what will happen up here, as people are spitting feathers at being dumped on from a great height by the guys they trusted. They may go back to Labour in a close race, but I really do wonder.

 

There is no BNP in areas that have no ethnic minorities.

 

BNP voters are a long way from being Nazi's, and the sooner sensible people like yourself realise that the better. I don't agree with it, but they represent a large bunch of peoples views. I honestly don't think that it is a straight 'ship them out' policy amongst most of these voters. More a 'treat me fair' ideal. I think they're wrong on alot of things, but I argue with the positive discrimination run at the moment, and I suspect there are many housing issues which wind these folk up no end. Look at the causes - not the results.

what a sensible post ..Would you consider standing as a candidate for oldham :grin: :grin:

[downender2]

toss up between the Green Party...or BNP for moi...

 

I'll be fecked if I'll ever vote Tory

[rictic]

The BNP are voted for in areas like Burnley and Oldham because there's a mentality of 'them and us' in the minds of far too many White people.

 

The BNP are voted in is because too many people are unwilling to see that racism is a two way street. White people don't have a patent on racism. Until PC loonies with their heads in the clouds realise that the BNP will flourish and that is a bad case scenario for every one.

 

We should have apologised for our part in the slavery trade only after the black African nations who colluded in it had apologised !

[Ackey]

The BNP are voted in is because too many people are unwilling to see that racism is a two way street. White people don't have a patent on racism. Until PC loonies with their heads in the clouds realise that the BNP will flourish and that is a bad case scenario for every one.

 

We should have apologised for our part in the slavery trade only after the black African nations who colluded in it had apologised !

Is leading by example not acceptable to you in that case?

[downender2]

The BNP are voted in is because too many people are unwilling to see that racism is a two way street. White people don't have a patent on racism. Until PC loonies with their heads in the clouds realise that the BNP will flourish and that is a bad case scenario for every one.

 

We should have apologised for our part in the slavery trade only after the black African nations who colluded in it had apologised !

 

 

We should have apologised for our part in the slavery trade only after the black African nations who colluded in it had apologised !

 

semantics....nobody gives a flying feck anyway..and it makes feck all difference..does it..

[oafc0000]

While the country faces some of the biggiest economical challenges ever I just find it barmy that people are still interested in these petty squables.

 

As soon as people work out we all get screwed over and unite the better. Won't be holding my breath.

 

My wifes brother is going out with a nice polish girl. She came over a couple of years ago. Works in a care home looking after our OAPs. You see no one wants to work in our care homes wiping old ladies bottoms for NMW. Yet I had to sit in a pub a couple of weeks ago as someone muttered about "all these bloody poles taking our jobs" when she heard Annas voice.

 

Taking all our jobs in deed.... All I know is she has contributed a lot more in taxes than some I know.

[EASTLEY]

OAFC, am with you on this, unfortunately the country seems to have a "I am a victim" mentality at the moment, that isn't helping us through tough times.

 

Its easier to blame someone else for your troubles rather than take positive action to solve them

[Yard Dog]

So predictable that this 'poll' would turn into a 'debate' about a very small number of BNP voters and that our moral guardian, the Rt. Hon semiretired oafc0000 would take over the soap box.

 

There's probably more racists in the conservative party than the BNP.

 

Where's the option for the SWP ?

Edited March 28, 2010 by Yard Dog

[OldhamSheridan]

So predictable that this 'poll' would turn into a 'debate' about a very small number of BNP voters and that our moral guardian, the Rt. Hon semiretired oafc0000 would take over the soap box.

 

There's probably more racists in the conservative party than the BNP.

 

Where's the option for the SWP ?

 

Indeed you are correct. oafc00000000000000 should stop believing in his idiological principals, just in case he becomes boring.

 

"There's probably more racists in the conservative party than the BNP."

 

As voters there probably are. But there's probably more child rapists in China than there are Yorkshire.

As candidates there are not.

[oafc0000]

So predictable that this 'poll' would turn into a 'debate' about a very small number of BNP voters and that our moral guardian, the Rt. Hon semiretired oafc0000 would take over the soap box.

 

There's probably more racists in the conservative party than the BNP.

 

Where's the option for the SWP ?

 

Maybe grow up ?

 

There was a good six posts on the BNP before I got anywhere near a soapbox. Before you decided to "contribute" to the debate...

Edited March 28, 2010 by oafc0000

[rosa]

While the country faces some of the biggiest economical challenges ever I just find it barmy that people are still interested in these petty squables.

 

As soon as people work out we all get screwed over and unite the better. Won't be holding my breath.

 

My wifes brother is going out with a nice polish girl. She came over a couple of years ago. Works in a care home looking after our OAPs. You see no one wants to work in our care homes wiping old ladies bottoms for NMW. Yet I had to sit in a pub a couple of weeks ago as someone muttered about "all these bloody poles taking our jobs" when she heard Annas voice.

Taking all our jobs in deed.... All I know is she has contributed a lot more in taxes than some I know.

I hope you tapped them on the shoulder and corrected them: "Doing our jobs, mate. Doing our jobs."

[oafc0000]

I hope you tapped them on the shoulder and corrected them: "Doing our jobs, mate. Doing our jobs."

 

 

She didn't hear them saying it (or she didn't seem too) so I didn't draw attention to it. If you are not fluent in a language its harder to pick up on conversations and mumblings around you I suppose.

Edited March 28, 2010 by oafc0000

[opinions4u]

Where's the option for the SWP ?

I don't think Shaun Wright-Phillips is a realistic political option.

[Lookers_Carl]

Reported this morning that News of the World have switched their allegiances to Tories

[opinions4u]

Reported this morning that News of the World have switched their allegiances to Tories

Murdoch always backs the party he thinks will win.

 

He then likes to call in favours on the basis that his papers helped them to win.

[oafc0000]

Murdoch always backs the party he thinks will win.

 

He then likes to call in favours on the basis that his papers helped them to win.

 

If I was a Tory I would be embarrassed to have the News of the World backing... An awful newspaper

 

I think the smart money is on a either a small Tory majority or a hung parliament... Its looking harder for Labour to be coming away with a majority even though there vote is holding up so far in some key seats.

 

Looking like the Lib Dems will be holding the position of King maker if they like it or not...

Edited March 28, 2010 by oafc0000

[Yard Dog]

Reported this morning that News of the World have switched their allegiances to Tories

 

I thought this happened ages ago...or was that The Sun (same owner though).

[slurms mckenzie]

Reported this morning that News of the World have switched their allegiances to Tories

 

"Switched?" to the tories? Its editorials have been right wing since the year dot.

 

I find it odd that anyone can support a party or its leader which doesn't have a single policy. I've read the article online, and it comments on the "modernised" tories etc.... How have the tories modernised? The first thing Blair did was drop clause four from his parties constitution, whereas what modernisation or reform has taken place within Cameron's tories? His party is still full of the same elitist, greedy, mean-spitirited, anti-working class, entitled membership as it ever was. Cameron paying lip service to gay rights (as it no doubt disgusts 99% of his party) and fielding the odd female candidate of asian decent changes nothing.

[Yard Dog]

"Switched?" to the tories? Its editorials have been right wing since the year dot.

 

I find it odd that anyone can support a party or its leader which doesn't have a single policy. I've read the article online, and it comments on the "modernised" tories etc.... How have the tories modernised? The first thing Blair did was drop clause four from his parties constitution, whereas what modernisation or reform has taken place within Cameron's tories? His party is still full of the same elitist, greedy, mean-spitirited, anti-working class, entitled membership as it ever was. Cameron paying lip service to gay rights (as it no doubt disgusts 99% of his party) and fielding the odd female candidate of asian decent changes nothing.

 

I know. It's all bollocks. Lib-Lab-Con - all the same. An increase in support for parties like the Greens, UKIP and the BNP might not be a bad thing in my book.

[Lookers_Carl]

I think odds are on that it will be a hung parliament (if it is, I would bank on another general election within 12 months)

 

I think alot will be decided once the date of the election is confirmed.

 

I think if any party will win an overall majority it will be the tories, but still think labour could be asked to form a government in a hung parliament if the Tories start stumbling in the run up to the election.

 

 

[Lookers_Carl]

An increase in support for parties like the Greens, UKIP and the BNP might not be a bad thing in my book.

 

And in my opinion, after the expenses scandal, its something that will be inevitable,

[Yard Dog]

And in my opinion, after the expenses scandal, its something that will be inevitable,

 

An increase in support, perhaps. But a bigger say in the House of Commons - nah. No chance of getting a seat, anywhere.