oafcprozac Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Come on Charity Commission give us that green light…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Come on Charity Commission give us that green light…. Where is it up to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If they do give us the green light, it dosnt exactly mean that it will go ahead fully will it ? Look at the " Oldham Arena " and how much trouble us fans went through for it to be f**ked off ! i wont be excitied until im walking down to failsworth for our first game at the new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) If they do give us the green light, it dosnt exactly mean that it will go ahead fully will it ? Look at the " Oldham Arena " and how much trouble us fans went through for it to be f**ked off ! i wont be excitied until im walking down to failsworth for our first game at the new stadium. It may be closer to reality than we think Edited February 1, 2011 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Funding may not entirely be the obstacle we think just the will to finish something they started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to Failsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to Failsworth Might aswell change that to " NO TO THE FUTURE OF THIS CLUB " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to Failsworth NO to a club ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to Failsworth YES to Failsworth and to progress NO to the backwards thinking fans living in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outoftheblue Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 YES to Failsworth and to progress NO to the backwards thinking fans living in the past Why are they backward thinking, just because they have a different view? Maybe they're justified in worrying that fans might not want to travel to Failsworth. Maybe they're justified in worrying that a club 2 miles away are offering Premier and European football for the same price. Maybe they're justified in worrying that self sustainment would mean a much reduced playing budget. Maybe they're justified in worrying that traffic will be horrendous, and the tram won't stop right outside. Maybe they're wrong. Or maybe they're spot on with their predictions. Who knows? They're hardly backward thinking though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to blindly acccepting that moving the club is the only answer YES to redeveloping Boundary Park like we were promised We need to move forward, starting with the product on the pitch. I am hoping that the recent transfer activity under the guidance of Paul Dickov will put us in with a real shout of promotion, but I don't think that the crowds will increase to the levels we need to become self sustaining until we are back in the Championship. Give people what they want to see (a successful and attacking football team) and the crowds will come back. Redevelop Boundary Park and secure the future of the football club without trashing our prized asset which is the location of the ground (clearly not the ground itself) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to blindly acccepting that moving the club is the only answer YES to redeveloping Boundary Park like we were promised We need to move forward, starting with the product on the pitch. I am hoping that the recent transfer activity under the guidance of Paul Dickov will put us in with a real shout of promotion, but I don't think that the crowds will increase to the levels we need to become self sustaining until we are back in the Championship. Give people what they want to see (a successful and attacking football team) and the crowds will come back. Redevelop Boundary Park and secure the future of the football club without trashing our prized asset which is the location of the ground (clearly not the ground itself) havnt we already sold the land ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 havnt we already sold the land ? If I won the lottery, no. Any deal would be renaged upon by me immediately. I believe that land was bought in Failsworth before the Public Consultations and it seems clear to me that the land at BP is worth more per square metre than the land in Failsworth. I know that they've got more money than us at the moment, but look at Blackpool. Do you think that they'd be where they are now if they'd have sold Bloomfield Road to the Pleasure Beach and moved to Sellafield? Redeveloping an existing ground can be done. It can be made to work and it can be successful - providing the product on the pitch is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If I won the lottery, no. Any deal would be renaged upon by me immediately. I believe that land was bought in Failsworth before the Public Consultations and it seems clear to me that the land at BP is worth more per square metre than the land in Failsworth. I know that they've got more money than us at the moment, but look at Blackpool. Do you think that they'd be where they are now if they'd have sold Bloomfield Road to the Pleasure Beach and moved to Sellafield? Redeveloping an existing ground can be done. It can be made to work and it can be successful - providing the product on the pitch is good enough. more chance of arabs buying us and making us richer than man city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If I won the lottery, no. Any deal would be renaged upon by me immediately. I believe that land was bought in Failsworth before the Public Consultations and it seems clear to me that the land at BP is worth more per square metre than the land in Failsworth. I know that they've got more money than us at the moment, but look at Blackpool. Do you think that they'd be where they are now if they'd have sold Bloomfield Road to the Pleasure Beach and moved to Sellafield? Redeveloping an existing ground can be done. It can be made to work and it can be successful - providing the product on the pitch is good enough. Not enough for Spurs though it seems, who want to move to the new Olympic stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I feel like the Ents in Lord of the Rings were based on the the guys making the wheels spin ever so slowly in this entire debacle. I'm expecting them to get back to Simon Corney in the summer with "we just have agreed that you are not orcs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If I won the lottery, no. Any deal would be renaged upon by me immediately. ah ok , we will just hang fire till you win the lottery then and hope for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ah ok , we will just hang fire till you win the lottery then and hope for the best probably happen before they make a bloody choice !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I feel like the Ents in Lord of the Rings were based on the the guys making the wheels spin ever so slowly in this entire debacle. I'm expecting them to get back to Simon Corney in the summer with "we just have agreed that you are not orcs". like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Give people what they want to see (a successful and attacking football team) and the crowds will come back. Redevelop Boundary Park and secure the future of the football club without trashing our prized asset which is the location of the ground (clearly not the ground itself) I used to think that was the case Rick, but it clearly is not. This season's football has been the best on the whole we've seen in the last 15 years and more. Vibrant, fast-paced attacking football, quick passing and players of genuine quality. But are the fans coming back? Not a jot, in fact we're getting even worse crowds than when Penney was here, which highlights all those fans who used Penney as a reason for not coming as nothing but liars and hypocrites. It's pure and simply a combination of stagnation at this level for so long, and a decrepid stadium which even had the Lookers still been up, wouldn't add anything of value to the whole (I'm loathe to say it...) "Match Experience". It's now one of the worst stadiums in the country for facilities and state of disrepair. I don't think everyone has blindly accepted our move to Failsworth, plenty of questions have been asked, on here and at the public meetings. It's absolutely clear why we have to move: There is no money to develop BP and isn't anywhere else in the borough suitable for the stadium we want to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I know that they've got more money than us at the moment, but look at Blackpool. Do you think that they'd be where they are now if they'd have sold Bloomfield Road to the Pleasure Beach and moved to Sellafield? That's precisely it though mate. Blackpool have the money bankrolled by someone pretty affluent and willing to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 NO to blindly acccepting that moving the club is the only answer YES to redeveloping Boundary Park like we were promised We need to move forward, starting with the product on the pitch. I am hoping that the recent transfer activity under the guidance of Paul Dickov will put us in with a real shout of promotion, but I don't think that the crowds will increase to the levels we need to become self sustaining until we are back in the Championship. Give people what they want to see (a successful and attacking football team) and the crowds will come back. Redevelop Boundary Park and secure the future of the football club without trashing our prized asset which is the location of the ground (clearly not the ground itself) Where is the money coming from then Rick to redevelope boundary park if you say it can be done? Where is the money going to come from to fund this attacking football team that will bring the crowds flocking back? In 2007, the land at Boundary Park was worth a hell of alot more than what it is now. I think Simon Corney mentioned at one of the meetings that since the arse fell out of the property market, they have had offers of 500k an acre, and I am sure that that is on the presumption that there wont be a football stadium on the land. Put a football stadium there and the land drops further. And we have a successful attacking football team at the moment, yet we still can't get 4000 a week???? And to clarify earlier, when I said backwards thinking fans, I was talking about the ones who blindly refuse to accept a move to failsworth, the ones who pull the failsworth is in manchester crap (which it isnt as the football league would not let us move there if it was), the ones who would if given the choice, prefer to see the club wither and die a slow death at Boundary Park rather than enjoy sustainable success at Failsworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Come on Charity Commission give us that green light…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Come on Charity Commission give us that green light…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 That's precisely it though mate. Blackpool have the money bankrolled by someone pretty affluent and willing to do so. Jamie, it tooke them YEARS and YEARS, there might have been a Sugar Daddy keeping the ship floating in the background, but I am not convinced he did an Abramohivc and simply invested untold millions into the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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