tangerinedreams Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I've just not busted the bank on attending over the last few seasons and why should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I like Simon Corney. When I hear his video interviews and media coverage he seems to talk a lot of sense. We will never know everything that goes on at a club (reasons for players leaving etc etc) but I think your view on Simon Corney is massively impacted by what you think the club can / should be achieving. We appear to be as financially stable as you can be in the lower leagues (albeit some cup revenue last 2 seasons would have helped) and therefore it would appear that (albeit in a threadbasde way) we look like we can continue to exist as a club for the medium future. Whislt this means that we are unlikely to ever hold on to players due to wages and lack of any genuine chance to have success, it does mean that we are here to stay without risk of financial meltdown - which whne you think back to the pre TTA tenure is what a lot of people said. There will be decisions that SC makes that he makes for the right reasons but we don't see it or appreciate it or agree. For example: Dean Furman. Wants to leave at end of season, we'll get no money in for him. Clearly not motivated or committed to the club (he came hear to get regular football to get into the SA team for the CoN - job done, bye) so I'd guess SC thought I might as well get him off the wage bill now and see if we can replace him / use youngsters. Lookers Stand. We don't fill the ground or anyway near it. We have a knackered stand that will have operating costs of staff, utilities, maintenance, rates etc etc that we don't actually need. Save the cash, knock it down - its the first stage of the redevelopment (whenever that may arise) so it needs to be done at sometime. Do it now, save money. Manager. I am sure that he would have liked a full-time manager in place earlier. But again, not paying a manager at the moment will save money. Also TP doing OK, and players seem to like him. Finally, I'd prefer to wait a few months and get a good candidate than rush an appointment to 'fill the gap'. We may or may not survive relegation this season. We may or may not start construction of the new stand. But it would appear that we will still have a financially stable shoestring football club come what may. And for that I thank SC. I never want to go back to the post Chris Moore era. This seasons FA Cup games (and still the occassional league one) have shown that even with limited resources, crap stadium, no manager - OAFC can still serve up what I want as a supporter. Entertainment, excitement and interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I like Simon Corney. When I hear his video interviews and media coverage he seems to talk a lot of sense. We will never know everything that goes on at a club (reasons for players leaving etc etc) but I think your view on Simon Corney is massively impacted by what you think the club can / should be achieving. We appear to be as financially stable as you can be in the lower leagues (albeit some cup revenue last 2 seasons would have helped) and therefore it would appear that (albeit in a threadbasde way) we look like we can continue to exist as a club for the medium future. Whislt this means that we are unlikely to ever hold on to players due to wages and lack of any genuine chance to have success, it does mean that we are here to stay without risk of financial meltdown - which whne you think back to the pre TTA tenure is what a lot of people said. There will be decisions that SC makes that he makes for the right reasons but we don't see it or appreciate it or agree. For example: Dean Furman. Wants to leave at end of season, we'll get no money in for him. Clearly not motivated or committed to the club (he came hear to get regular football to get into the SA team for the CoN - job done, bye) so I'd guess SC thought I might as well get him off the wage bill now and see if we can replace him / use youngsters. Lookers Stand. We don't fill the ground or anyway near it. We have a knackered stand that will have operating costs of staff, utilities, maintenance, rates etc etc that we don't actually need. Save the cash, knock it down - its the first stage of the redevelopment (whenever that may arise) so it needs to be done at sometime. Do it now, save money. Manager. I am sure that he would have liked a full-time manager in place earlier. But again, not paying a manager at the moment will save money. Also TP doing OK, and players seem to like him. Finally, I'd prefer to wait a few months and get a good candidate than rush an appointment to 'fill the gap'. We may or may not survive relegation this season. We may or may not start construction of the new stand. But it would appear that we will still have a financially stable shoestring football club come what may. And for that I thank SC. I never want to go back to the post Chris Moore era. This seasons FA Cup games (and still the occassional league one) have shown that even with limited resources, crap stadium, no manager - OAFC can still serve up what I want as a supporter. Entertainment, excitement and interest. Sadly, the number of exciting and entertaining games has been minimal for years. For the most part, it's a weekly dose of total crap. Crap football in a three stand pile of crap. I have not been a major critic of SC, but i am pissed off with him. Getting rid of the management team and failing to replace them over a 10 week period is ridiculous. Piss poor. It'll be a major reason for our inevitable relegation. it reflects his make-do-and-mend policy. That's how he manages the club. That's why we have a revolving door policy when it comes to players. We've got another one month loan, which might be extended, or not. For these reasons, I have put on my angry pants and angry jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 ..it reflects his make-do-and-mend policy. That's how he manages the club. That's why we have a revolving door policy when it comes to players. We've got another one month loan, which might be extended, or not. I don't disagree. But when you have very limited budgets, you have to do what you can to manage to them. Sometimes this means making stupid decisions for good reasons i.e. financial stability. A succession of loan players will be disuptive in many ways, but potentially a higher quality player than we could otherwise get (we have had some very good loan players). And it's possible that most if not all their wages are being covered by the parent club in order to get them some first team experience. So for SC - we get a 'free' player of better quality than if we paid for full-time player. Obviously we get disruption and lack of consistency in terms of team selection which has to have an impact on the team as well - but it might be a necessary evil. For these reasons, I have put on my angry pants and angry jumper. Fair enough. I can understand anyone that is fed-up of watching mostly poor quality football for the last decade - but that is the lot of a lower league football fan. It's why there are less numbers of people watch lower league football - for the most part its not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Lookers Stand. We don't fill the ground or anyway near it. We have a knackered stand that will have operating costs of staff, utilities, maintenance, rates etc etc that we don't actually need. Save the cash, knock it down - its the first stage of the redevelopment (whenever that may arise) so it needs to be done at sometime. Do it now, save money. Killed a fair few off the gate this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Killed a fair few off the gate this decision. Exactly. People talk of low crowds without attributing any of the reasons for that to Corney himself. Edited March 16, 2013 by longtimeblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I completely agree about the closure of the lookers impacting negatively, but it's not solely down to SC. It's the same reason why we haven't built a promotion winning side.... Money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 They have done, attendances proves it!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamarBridgeLatics Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 These are the plans for Home Park announced earlier today. http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Plymouth-Argyle-stadium-set-heart-sporting/story-18433392-detail/story.html#axzz2Ni70vMEI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SholverBlue Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Is it just me that thinks a football ground should be a football ground? I can deal with a Club shop selling pointless tat and a gym but a :censored:ing Cinema and an Ice rink? Jesus wept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblehead Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Where he went wrong was not getting rid of pd before the end of 2012. Can't complain about everything else he has done. I hope he doesn't jump ship when we go down. He would be the onlychance of having a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lookers Stand came down because they thought Failsworth was a goer, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lookers Stand came down because they thought Failsworth was a goer, no? Nope, was the redevelopment of BP but then the credit crunch happened and we was unable to get the funding.. Failsworth was a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemars Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 When will the fans turn against Corney? For the sake of the club I hope never. This man is the only reason Oldham Athletic are still here. Not because he saved us a DECADE ago , but because he has pumped money into the club year in and year out with very little return. Sure he has not thrown money at the team for success alla portsmouth, leeds etc he knows that was not sustainable. Lets not forget weve had a few good cracks at it in his time. Corney has kept this club running at an ok level for 10+ years and us as fans should be nothing but entirely gratefull! When this new stand goes up he will have improved this club massively in so many different ways. Some of our fans are riddiculouse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 When will the fans turn against Corney? For the sake of the club I hope never. This man is the only reason Oldham Athletic are still here. Not because he saved us a DECADE ago , but because he has pumped money into the club year in and year out with very little return. Sure he has not thrown money at the team for success alla portsmouth, leeds etc he knows that was not sustainable. Lets not forget weve had a few good cracks at it in his time. Corney has kept this club running at an ok level for 10+ years and us as fans should be nothing but entirely gratefull! When this new stand goes up he will have improved this club massively in so many different ways. Some of our fans are riddiculouse! Agreed. Completely. Even if we appoint a manager that the vast majority don't want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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