chris_ktf

Hate to say it, but I can't see another miracle. I think shez, the fans, and the club got swept up in his return last season. That spirit and goodwill goes a long way IMO. For the reasons everyone has mentioned it's not the same this season, even if the gap is smaller. Obviously, hope I'm wrong.

If shez does come back, how many mangers have had 3 spells? Howard Kendall at Everton. Martin Allen at Barnet. Any more?

Honestly thought he'd go today. Sigh.

I can't think of another business or sector that only invests to make itself more asset rich, while utterly and totally neglecting its core business or reason for existing.

For the 633rd time. Business first. Football second.

It's all irrelevant really. Even if Corney does pull rabbit out of the hat. It's only delaying the inevitable. If it's not this year, it will be next year. My god, it's depressing.

Regardless of wether we want him sacked. Does anybody think Corney will pull the trigger?

In short. When you want to sell, why massively invest in something that A, you rid of? And B, is already hugely difficult to sell because it's already massively losing money?

Why did he build a stand when we are and where loss making? He must of known it would take years and years to recoup that outlay. Conversely if he built it to make us a better proposition to sell, he must of known the football side had to be in some sort of stability/sign of promise to sell it. Surely they go hand in hand? I can't get my head around the fact, that if your in for 10/15 mill over ten years, why on earth do you add 6 mill on top of that? They might be a lot of things, but their not stupid. Why didn't they cut their losses 3/4 years ago, with money back from the houses and the dialysis unit, surely they'll end up taking a bigger hit now, next year, or whenever they sell. What am I missing?

At least we're still in the checkatrade.

So. We playing well?

And as someone who has had closer dealings with the club than I will ever have. His take on things is of interest.

Fair enough. Equally though, I'm not blindly accepting anything. That would be incredibly naive. Nor do I think he's a beacon of truth. I don't think he himself was claiming or wanting to across like that. I am willing to be open minded to the possibility that there maybe some truth to what he intimates. That's all.

My thoughts exactly.

You come across sceptical of Mike's information? Why would he risk any good links with the club, just to come across 'in the know.' He knows he's on radio, so either he's feeing his own ego by pretending he knows than he does. Or he's trying to show some tact, in 'alluding' to deeper problems- without blatantly ruining his relationship with the club. I'm going with the latter. We are constantly told how hard it is to find investment, and yet comments in this interview directly contradicts that. There are people who are at least interested. Why would you offer proof of funds if you can't get past first base on price? Or what's even included in the deal?

The level of football we play is becoming less and less important to me. I'm not saying I want to go down, or I lack ambition. It's bigger than that. I want a united club that puts the football first. I'm thinking of clubs like Wimbledon and Portsmouth. I'd like transparency and accountability.

Spot on. The only quick solution would be if Corney & co decided to take a considerable hit. Which ain't gonna happen. Said it so many times now- Business first. Football second. As you say, that's is their right. However we can see what it's doing to the club. Really hard to see a positive way forward for all concerned.

Strange game. It's a while since I've seen us as poor and good in the same 90 minutes. First 20/25 we were really poor, couldn't pick a pass, lack of desire, lack of tempo. Then gradually we found our feet. Last 15 of first half they looked like a different team. Second half we started bright, good finish from McKay, then we dropped off and the last 15/20 we were hanging on a bit. Why doesn't dummingham overlap McLaughlin more?? Think they could have a real tidy partnership down right this season. Both played well. How did Erwin miss? Flynn had a good game. Banks is frustrating. Played at least 3 sublime passes today, then the next time you see him he can't pick a pass ten yards away. He burst onto the edge of their box at least 3 times, and then meekly gave it away or just ran out of ideas. He does the difficult well, if he could add the simple things to his game, I think he could be the creative midfielder we've been looking for. We seem very fragile. They lack real belief indivdually and collectively to me. (Not all the players fault) If things are going ok, they look quite decent in spells. But if we go a goal down, or there up against it we look very poor, very quickly. Hopefully a few more wins and that confidence will come. Doncaster were awful.

Purely on football terms. Do you think Corney knew what he was getting in Robinson when he head hunted him? I only ask, because after such poor negative football for so long. You'd think he might want someone different to the ' Northern Ireland' mode.

To those who can't see it yet. In the last 7/8 seasons why have we had various managers, using between 150/200 players and always jus finished above relegation? Why under all these mangers and players do the results stay largely the same? Why are crowds dropping like a stone? The one person who links all this Corney. An before anyone says it. Its nothing to with blaming Corney for today's result, file today's result wIth the rest of the utter dross home defeats. Our problems run so much deeper. I used to think, but at least he backs his mangers. Well, why do results or the football NEVER change with all this backing??? If you don't want to run a football club anymore. Fine. But to me you can't use the football club as a side issue to making money around the football club. It's unethical, and wrong IMO (Yeah yeah. Get in the real world.) They won't sell it, because on the business side there's money to be made. Anyone who doubts that needs to ask why a skint 3rd division club found 6 mill plus to build a stand. The football has been secondary for a long long time. But he's cute enough to invest just enough to keep revenues as high as poss. (Not because he desperately cares about us finishing 17th) Again. We need investment. But on his terms. Again business first. Football second. People say, but that's his right. Yeah it is. But why the :censored: did he invest in the first place then?? Loads of land all over this country they could of developed. Without getting anywhere near a community football club. In the end we can talk and talk about managers and players. But if you keep cutting back, we're going one way. It wouldn't surprise me if we were in league two and Corney said they were going to build a new main stand. Business first. Football second.

Is this lot crap? Is this manger crap? Why have various managers, and at least a 100/150players managed to finish 17th for 6 plus years? Are they all crap? Or is it just what we can afford. We are all barking up the wrong tree.

Let's have it right. We are :censored:. I don't mean just today. I mean the last 7/8 years. Reading the posts on here is like Groundhog Day. We could come good. Give them time. We can't score. Why are we playing without two wingers. We've no money At least we're good defensively. 0-1 oppo We've got a bottom six budget. WHY IS THE CROWD DECREASING??? We could be tranmere. Who's this new guy? Can we sack him yet? There's no atmosphere. 17th. Undisclosed. It's not an exaggeration to say the club is on life support. It gets the odd body shock to get it going for 5 minutes. Then just slides back into the abyss. It should be no surprise were dire.

On the plus side, if league 3 does eventually come in. We might keep our league status after all.

I've won £80 plus this season on us drawing either 0-0 or 1-1. Just thought I'd share the wealth.