BlueJazzer

And then it all snowballed. Maybe she thought taking it to court would result in them being called naughty boys, made to do com service, fined heavily, and her getting a nice compo sum. She may have been as shocked as him when he was sent down?

Yeah I'll take that. But then how, if she hasn't (allegedly) drunk anymore, does her state of mind deteriorate to not remembering. Surely once u stop drinking you effectively start to sober up. I know it takes time, but she had spent an hour in the kebab house at this point so anything she had drunk previously would have already had taken its course? No expert, maybe rudemedic can clear that up?

Worlds apart? You speak as though you know the bloke personally and know his every indiscretion. It's getting tetchy on here and I don't want or mean it to but my two penneth....... He has made (or someone has made for him) a website to put his side of the story across and try to protest his innocence. Now I apologise wholeheartedly if I missed it, but I don't see anywhere where he is encouraging anybody to 'go after' the victim, her family or her friends. If anybody does as a result of reading his site, that's not really his fault? And as for the taxi thing. If she was in such a pitiful drunken state, then I too would put her in a taxi. However, video evidence points to the fact that she wasn't, and she was the one that approached CM and said she was going home with him. So while we are saying Evans is a despicable character for not putting her in a taxi, let's remember that he want even there at the time. Also on this point, the men and the woman had been drinking, and as this whole sordid affair proves, drinking can impair your judgement and encourage you to do things that you would normally do when sober. Like sleep with a drunken girl who threw herself at you (Clayton) or cheekily ask if you could have a go (Evans) or agree to a spit roasting from two famous footballers (victim). Now if the whole case is built on her not being able to remember any of the whole affair, then how can she have consented to one but not the other? It's two or none surely? And a point that Tracey made earlier, that she felt safe back in her day and wasn't worried about violence or having her drink spiked. There is nothing to suggest there was any of that inn this case is there?

Point still stands though.

He hasn't been accused or tried for offences against a minor so why should he be banned from such activities. And frankly, to pin him as some predatory paedophile is way out of order, regardless of your stance on the original offence.

I've rad his site too. How is he clearly going after her and her family? He's trying to clear his name because he firmly believes he did no wrong and feels there was a miscarriage of justice. Ask yourself, if it was you, wouldn't you do as much as you could to clear your name? Or would you pander to the tabloids and just crawl in a hole and accept defeat?

And it has also been said many times that Evans isn't showing remorse because that would be admitting he had done wrong. Which he denies, therefore why would he apologise? Does that ring any bells for you?

And if the accused was your dad, brother, son, grandad would you?

As opposed to yourself who was on the jury and personally know the girl involved? We are all making our minds up over what we have read on the Internet.

Jesus. Hands up all those who have NEVER been out on the piss and trapped off with a girl, who has also had a drink, and ended up having sex with them at some location or other. Anyone? Cos apparently, if you have then your a godamn dirty rapist! And on that point, I know we have female members, so ask yourselves have you ever slept with a bloke after a few drinks? Well that's ok, because apparently this never ever happens so you can just erase it from your mind and pretend it never happened. I've got to be honest, I was gutted when the story first broke so I looked it up. I've looked at as much stuff on the Internet as I can, including his own website, and I have to say, how he was ever convicted is beyond me. And if he had been a plumber or suchlike it would have probably been thrown out. Just my opinion........

He was at Chelsea and now he's at Afc portchester. You don't think that's a downhill slide?

4 goals. Looks like I owe a fiver!

No, my point is just because he went to said school doesn't mean he ISNT a numbnuts. And Rude, I take ur point about not wanting to be associated with him now....

What has any of this got to do with anything? Ex Hulme grammar? Means what? His parents were rich enough to send him to a posh school. Means nothing if you don't apply yourself. I know plenty of people from rough schools who went on to do well and plenty of wasters that went to posh schools. We want him to score goals FFS not translate Latin.

Oh good god no!!!

So is it Bar-bay-dos or Bar-beer-dos?

An Everton supporting mate of mine posted something on Facebook (a link) about them trying to snap Richards up for a cut price 2mill. That's gotta be too cheap. Cheeky bastards.

Doesn't say what it's a teaser of. I'm gonna hazard a guess at Jenny's underwear.

That's the craziest penalty technique I have ever seen. Madness.

Well that one was easier! Go on fishul. Go to desktop site. Fixtures. Look for a little link that says download full list. Easy.

I can't get it to work either. Unable to verify.

Absolutely. Little :censored: wouldn't last 5 minutes in league one. He'd be on a plane back to Brazil crying his eyes out!

Like this?

We'll let me be the first to raise the bar you negative bunch. 2nd Jch 24 goals Nobody from toon Jch or jones An old hand to help out JCH. A bit like when we first got Graeme Sharp. Experienced, but not necessarily a goalscorer. Someone he can learn from.

On sky news app tonight. Sky bet have slashed odds on him going to Tottenham from to 12/1 down to 2/1. Newcastle are still favourites to land him. Although further up page it's says toon have lend some foreigner up to replace debuchy. Spurs then. They're well known for paying over the odds for players!!!