DerekWilson_1968

Told you all bloody ages ago ;)

Personally I think the trust has lost focus from its initial aims and lost any credibility it had amongst the fans. Just my opinion. Derek.

I voted at lunch time but didn't have time to type what and why. I am a 30+ year season ticket holder, but I won't be getting one next season, not because Penney is the boss, purely due to the fact that it bores me to tears. I'm much further down the road than Prozac, I have just about given up over the last 2 seasons. I went to ten games at BP last year, and only been to five or six this season (both as a ST holder), financially it doesn't make sense, on an entertainment level - well, I would rather stick pins in my eyes, the ground is a complete sh1thole - soulless, with an atmosphere thinner than the moon and the facilities are akin to those of a workhouse. I think that the owners are taking us for a ride and on the lookout for the first train out of Dodge, the majority of the players are inept beyond words. As the club had gone to the dogs over the last few years, any remaining enthusiasm I had for it has gone. I keep an eye out for the results and come on here to see what is going on, but other than that, I don't even bother listening anymore, whereas a few months ago I would do. I went to Exeter so that I could tick a ground off the list; I got drunk, had a laugh with mates and wasn't remotely interested in what was going on in front of me on the pitch. That Exeter went one in front gave me the perfect excuse to leave. The last home game I went to was Tranmere in January and I walked at half time. Like many of the players, I am past caring. If (or should that be when?) we get relegated I can finish off the 92 watching Latics, then I suspect that will be me done. I have put the miles in, cried myself to sleep when we were going down the pan and did everything and more that I could financially and time wise to help them in their time of need. I am lucky though, at least I saw the good times, I don't want to be around when the inevitable worst becomes inevitably true. The club is already dead in my eyes and our saviours have killed it. It just needs putting out of its misery to complete the whole sorry saga. Derek.

Me and Nik are on Paul, there and back in the day. No idea of the times though as NLJ has booked them. I will get him to post them tomorrow. Derek.

Tues or Weds mate? Either day I should be there about half five.

Go on then, I can sub you out of my profit share Either day, but around Euston area would be better, am staying up north in Barnet. Derek.

Oi who ever you are! I am in the smoke on Tues & Weds night if you fancy a beer. Not seen you since the Millwall game. Derek.

I was talking about Kandol TD. Derek.

You can add me Garcon. Have already made the decision to give up my ST again on Saturday, I can't be doing with watching at BP or anywhere else at the moment. I am going to Exeter, even though the game will eat 20 mins into my drinking time - I don't expect I will be able to stomach much more than that. Derek.

Feck me, even Penny wouldn't play Tresor on the wing. The way Taylor is at the minute??? I was just about to get started but took a deep breath. What are the opposition to do? Let him go past them because he has had a handful of decent games in 4 seasons? Give me a break. TINTS.

..but better than Taylor by a country mile. TINTS.

I wish they could get me interested again. Derek.

I wish we could just get rid of him and have done with it. He offers nothing. If we could get Kandol in, well that would be a bonus. Derek.

The cynic in me would suggest that this has come about after the last few days of 'discussions' on here. Derek. edit: 3pm start - brilliant planning 'Tics. What a bunch of cowboys!

Bit of a late night at work, so I have just caught up. I have found this thread quite interesting, well excluding the cringeworthy bits, and I am going to be a bit devils advocate. I was just wondering when was the last time that anyone saw the fans representative in the stands and had to put up with the lousy facilities that the rest of us do? In fact, how many of you are aware that they know a member of the trust board even to say hello to, never mind to have a chance to air a concern with them? Derek.

You naughty lot, daring to ask questions. How very dare you! For what it is worth, I think it is quite a condescending post from Barry, lots of words and little substance other than to administer a slap on the wrists to people with genuine concerns as to the future of the club. Spot on Garcon by the way. Derek.

and....? Are you implying that Marvin didn't sing those words? Derek.

I mis-heard it through the grapevine would be quite apt for today. Derek.

You should change your name to Dick Turpin!

I doubt it mate, he told me he didn't give you much!

I'm not often right in September, maybe I still won't be - who knows? They will have to get themselves sorted out though because this is as poor as I have ever seen it. As an aside, I had an interesting conversation this evening, the person with whom I had it with informed me that Gazal and Blitz couldn't wait to get out of OAFC. You can treat this as another my mums mates cats half brother said.... kind of story if you want, but I know I wouldn't distrust the bloke that I had the chat with. Now, what was it I said about escape plans a few weeks ago? Roll on FAILsworth eh????? Derek.

Absolute garbage, it's no wonder everyone is leaving in droves. It really was awful. I can't say anything about the second half, I was on my way home at 8.40pm after sorting out the Exeter trip. Derek.

I couldn't disagree more Pete. Hardcore fans drifting away from the club of their own accord is a very serious situation. People like Paddy (Lee Sinnott) have been attendees home and away for a really long time - I certainly remember seeing them at plenty of places when they were bits of teenagers, ducking school to go to midweek games on the south coast etc. The club really needs to find out why people such as Dave Og, Paddy and yes, I will include myself in that number, are freely walking away with barely a care. The only reason we are posting on the board is that deep down we do care enough, but feel so disenfranchised from the club that we feel the need to let them know. They should know too. It isn't like we have the luxury of hordes of footballing tourists eagerly awaiting the giving up of the ghost so they can get a seat. It'll just be yet another empty space and on the odd occasion we bother to turn up a beer and a laugh with friends. I suspect from a personal point of view, that in a few years time I will be completely lost to the club, maybe managing an odd glance on the boards and sat at home watching Soccer Saturday. Someone from inside the club/ associated with the club should know of the perilous situation, because I bet I am not the only one that feels as I do. Then they need to sit down and start thinking about how they turn it around, because if they don't sooner rather than later the remainder of you will be able to have four seats each in our 12,000 capacity underwhelming white elephant in Failsworth. Derek.

You can count me in with that pocket of fans Dave. This is my 36th season and I have a ST, but have hardly been such is the level of apathy toward all things OAFC related. Like you it has been coming for a few years during which I kept my ST going as I still enjoyed the social side of going to the match, but it has tempered off with my ever decreasing enjoyment of football related matters. In the last two seasons I have spent my £600+ and been to 16 games at BP, I haven't been since Huddersfield (though I did miss an eagerly anticipated game against L**ds through illness). I bet I can't gather enough interest to go to another half dozen games this season. It isn't too many years ago that the thought of missing a home game was utterly unthinkable and about 75% of away games were attended as well. I've been to one this season at Millwall because I was working in London, and maybe 5 last season. The club has gone past the point of stagnation now in my opinion. Too many false dawns and too much apathy around the place for me to care enough other than to morbidly trawl through the boards to see where the next stumbling block is lying for the club to trip over. Maybe it is a case of apathetic fans dragging the club down, maybe the opposite is the case, but there is an air of ‘terminal patient’ around BP at the moment and if the club is to survive something needs to change soon. Lack of ambition in signing many a journeyman/ players obviously not good nor capable enough, the farcical thought (well, in my mind it is) that Failsworth may be the solution in a ground that even without having seen a line on a piece of paper reeks of 'it'll do while we get out'. Lack of discipline, continuous February collapses and now a team, which from what little I have seen this season, that looks like it is so out of its depth that the FL may as well relegate it now to save the remaining hardy souls the heartache in May. There seems to be very little link any more between club and fans, and whilst we should all be grateful for our financial bailout from TTA 6 years ago (or however long ago it is) it seems more and more like a costly and temporary reprieve. I'm not sure what would get me interested again, and that being the case I'm not in a position to ask the questions that need asking. There are other people more suited to doing those things. If they were giving STs away for next season right now, I wouldn't take one. Hopefully they will turn it around, but I fear they won't. In a few years I will just be another statistic in the number of hardcore fans that eventually drift away into being casual supporters. I for one, think that is really, really sad. Derek.

It's not right DS. Significant amount of snow overnight and it has just started again. Derek.