Gary1906

Very well put. Good riddance.

Really enjoyed tonight. I even joined the Trust! ? I thought FB and AR came across very well. AR in particular has a very infectious and enthusiastic personality. Let’s hope they can get the team - and the club - moving in the right direction. If it’s down to hard work then I’m confident that we will have a good season, hopefully culminating in promotion at the first attempt. COYB! ️️

You got what you wished for. Our first direction has been downwards. Let’s hope things improve this season.

I agree, we’ll know soon enough. This is probably the most important season in the clubs history.

You’ll be easy to spot then!

Whoa! Strong words against somebody expressing an opinion. Or is an opinion only allowed if it fits in with your ideas?? If you are happy with relegation and an owner that seemingly wants to play ‘football manager’, then you too are an idiot. I’m prepared to wait and see, and time will tell I suppose. Not got off to the best of starts though, and like I said, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. No doubt you’ll still be saying that you’re glad Corney’s gone even if we are lining up in the National League next season.

Not EVERYONE wanted Corney out. I’d be the first to admit that I know very little about the stadium wrangling, Brassbank et al, and I can understand people being totally brassed off - pardon the pun - with Corney. Sometimes though you have to be careful what you wish for. Corney for all his faults did manage to keep us in the League 1 for 20 odd seasons, then as soon as the club changes hands we go down. What with AL obviously bringing in his own players whether the manager wants them or not, calling meetings and reportedly humiliating players at said meetings, going into the dressing room at half time and no doubt doing the same. All these things add to the unrest at the club and do the manager(s) no favours whatsoever. I hope it isn’t the case, but we might have jumped out of the frying pan into the fire. Time will tell. I know that a lot of people on here will say that they are just happy that Corney has gone. I’ll only be happy if AL improves the clubs league position, but he MUST learn to stay away from meddling with the first team and he needs to let the manager(s) do their job.

Possibly. Same division for 20 odd years though. Changed owner, went down. Lets hope this season is very different, in a positive way.

We’ve been relegated for one!!

Personally I think he’s telling the fans how it was at the club, probably more so since Corney left. Anthony Gerrard has hinted at things previously with his somewhat cryptic tweets but when pressed for more he hasn’t said anything, obviously because he’s on the payroll and would probably be in big trouble if he did. Davies has now left the club so is free to speak. I’m not saying that he’s totally blameless in all of this. He did seem to down tools after the January window, and that was unprofessional and damaging to the team, but I can’t see any reason why he would lie about the going’s on towards the end of the season, and if the new owner is going to run the club like that it is a recipe for disaster and will cause ill feeling and discontent throughout the club.

You don’t know that it’s self serving. I would imagine quite a few other players at the club would say very similar things if they were allowed to. As for him having 17 previous clubs, it probably puts him in a better position than most to be able to gauge when a club - or an owner - is running things badly. We will have to see what AL is like in the future but it certainly sounds like he had a destabilising effect on the squad in the final few weeks of the season, and if Craig Davies is telling the truth - and I have no reason to disbelieve him - then the owner had a disastrous effect on team morale in the week leading up to the vitally important last match of the season at Northampton. Whilst AL undoubtedly would have had best intentions he was definitely misguided and it backfired badly. I hope he’s leant his lesson on that score. Leave the management and performance of the team to the manager of the football club. Stop meddling!!

If you read what I wrote I said that he didn’t have an axe to grind with anyone except the new owner. Not with anyone else at the club, just as he’s indicated in his tweet. Peter Clarke wouldn’t be able to say anything because he’s a player under contract and if he did I’m guessing he would be shown the door pretty quickly. Davies is able to tell us what’s been happening only because he’s left.

Couldn’t disagree with you more! He’s not saying it to demoralise anyone. He’s telling it how it is. He obviously got on well with a lot of the players and staff at the club and has no axe to grind with anyone except the current owner. He’s merely saying things that he would never have been able to say if he’d still been at the club. It doesn’t bode well for the club if AL is going to run it like that. ?

Did either of them play at a higher level than Wellens?? It counts for nothing. And if Lemsagam tells them what to do or puts pressure on them to pick certain players it will be interesting to see if they are strong enough to say no. Not easy to do when it’s your employer making the suggestions to you.

Considering that the squad was relegated he probably had good cause to whine and moan about some of them!

Has anyone been able to provide a shred of proof that Wellens was responsible for the leak to the press?? I haven’t seen any unless I’ve missed it. Plus why would he? By doing so he would be obviously at risk of losing his job. His FIRST job in management. Why would he want to be seen as a young manager who can’t be trusted by any prospective owner or chairman. I just don’t see it, sorry.

My sentiments entirely. I will say this about Wellens, I went to Portsmouth away and it was quite simply the best performance that I’ve seen from a Latics team in donkeys years! We simply played Pompey off their own pitch. MK Dons away was similar in the first half as well. He had the team playing some lovely attacking football that was a joy to watch. I’ve no idea what went wrong ultimately although Doyle’s illness and his struggle to recapture his form obviously played a big part as did Byrne being only half the player that he had been in the first half of the season. Gerrard only lasting 38 minutes away at Bury - when he probably shouldn’t have played - and then being out for several games afterwards when his experience could have been invaluable. We don’t know what else happened behind the scenes. What happened to Davies’ for instance?? I do agree that some of the problems will not have been Wellens’ doing, and the jury is still out on Mr Lemsagam (at least this member of the jury is!). Lets hope Lemsagam/Bunn/Rhodes can turn things around and get us promoted at the first attempt. And let’s hope that the management team are allowed to manage the team without interference from above. Heres hoping! COYB!!! ️️

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Can’t head a ball. Can’t pass more than 5 yards, and his weight of pass is abysmal. Can’t shoot to save his life. 3 attributes that are useful/essential for any central midfield player. He can tackle though and his long legs cover the ground easily. Was my man of the match on at least a couple of occasions, but in my opinion Latics should be able to do a lot better than the likes of Ousmane Fane. If he does go I wish him the best of luck. He seems like a likeable lad and always gave his all for the team. Something which some of the more naturally gifted players regularly failed to do.

Why would Wellens run the risk of being the ‘mole’ for the article? He would have absolutely nothing to gain from it and would be almost certain of losing his job once AL found out who it was. It would tarnish his reputation for prospective future employers. Who would want someone who will run to the nearest journalist telling tales and whingeing when things weren’t going his way? I just don’t see it.

Not the most loyal of supporters are you?!?! Blimey, you change like the wind!! ?

He’s a lot closer to a balloon dog! ?

Thick, fat, slow. Thinks he’s better than he is. I’d be happy for him to move on.

We’ve had some 28 year olds who have struggled to lift the ball off the ground when attempting to put a cross in!!! ?

Couldn’t agree more! Who consolidates when you’ve dropped down a division?? You consolidate when you get promoted to make sure you stay there. Latics should be going all out to prove that they are too good for League 2 and try to win the League outright. Consolidate in a division containing Forest Green, Morecambe and Cheltenham?? You’ve got to be joking!!