Markoasis Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 watch this space ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 watch this space ............... They were completely out of order - I hope that the lad who was ejected was not charged for the scuffle - I also hope that some formal complaint is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 They were completely out of order - I hope that the lad who was ejected was not charged for the scuffle - I also hope that some formal complaint is made. What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafckev Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Bottle Merchants the lot of them. There was no way any of the Latics fans were going to kick off at the match yet bloody jobsworths created a hostile atmosphere by throwing lads out for celebrating or standing up. 5 hours sat down getting to the ground and the last thing you want to do is sit down some more. Only had the bottle to throw one lad out at half time then another for complaining! Colchester score the 2nd goal and 2 stewards march up the stairs trying to get lads at the back to sit down (err not a smart move lads we've just conceeded) before you knew it Taylor scored and they f*cked off back down the steps cowardly. Next thing you we score an equliser and a lad down the front is literally being dragged out for celebrating! Hence about 50 fans going down and kicking it off with the stewards and a few more booted out. Oldham police was there and what a waste of tax payers money to send them down as they did c*ck all to help the situation. So basically you turned fans with an average of 40 who just wanted to enjoy the game into a group of pumped up angry men who wanted to attack the stewards. At the end of the game all stewards didnt say a word and got a hell of a lot of abuse of me and most other fans leaving the stand. Well done Colchester on your plastic ground,ticket problems and shockingly poor stewards - Last time I'll be going there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohh Johnny Eyre Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Chaos, was LaticsLee off here if im not mistaken, so you should be able to hear it from the horses mouth! So that's two people from this board who were ejected! This board is turning people into thugs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 They were completely out of order - I hope that the lad who was ejected was not charged for the scuffle - I also hope that some formal complaint is made. What happened? As usual we were not supposed to stand, even on the back row where the lad was. Colchester fans in the East Stand were also standing. When approached by a group of at least three stewards and asked to go with them the lad, who was standing on the back row, went quietly, amidst protests from the fans around him that he had done nothing to warrant his removal. While this was going on Chris Taylor scored, but I and others missed the goal because of the distraction caused by the stewards. When the lad got to the bottom of the steps and went left across the front of our section, a steward manhandled him and, instinctively, he resisted. the steward. This steward then assaulted the lad and dragged him towards the pitch, bending him bodily over the perimeter fence. At this point fans erupted and several fans ran towards what was happening. The lad was removed down the tunnel to the concourse while the fans protested vehemently at the assault by the steward. After minutes of protesting, the fans returned to their seats but one girl stayed talking to the GM policeman who noted full details of her complaint. She said that the lad had been ejected but then allowed back in and was stood in the tunnel out of our view. Many of us on the back three or four rows were so wound up by what we had seen off the pitch, that we spent the rest of the game standing and, in addition to using our anger to get behind the team even more, we also verbally abused the stewards. No action was taken by the stewards, because they knew that there had been a miscarriage of justice, and their actions had provoked a mild-mannered crowd into a seething mob. When the equaliser came, it was as though it was some form of retribution for what one of our fans had suffered unjustly! As we left our section at the end, we made it perfectly clear what we thought of the stewarding and the way in which it had tarnished the image of Colchester United. We also said that we would be taking the matter further. I have now received a text from M_OAFC saying that the lad was charged with assault, which is absolutely outrageous! With so many witnesses to the lad being assaulted by the steward, I can only assume the assault charge will be dropped in due course and replaced with a warning. If the charge is not dropped, I would be prepared to act as a witness for the accused in Court. I also feel that the lad should take action against the steward for assault. M_OAFC says that he, johnny punkster and wardlelatic, who were staying overnight in Colchester, have looked after the lad, put him up, took him out last night and are taking him home today. Like me and Mrs. Sideburns, who is still fuming at the injustice, even after a good night’s sleep, they are not prepared to let the matter rest. Because the lad was charged, he has been given the name of the steward whom he is alleged to have assaulted, but whom I and others witnessed assaulting him. I shall be writing to Colchester United about the standard of stewarding with a copy to Aan Hardy, and I would suggest that others make AH aware of what they saw yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohh Johnny Eyre Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 As usual we were not supposed to stand, even on the back row where the lad was. Colchester fans in the East Stand were also standing. When approached by a group of at least three stewards and asked to go with them the lad, who was standing on the back row, went quietly, amidst protests from the fans around him that he had done nothing to warrant his removal. While this was going on Chris Taylor scored, but I and others missed the goal because of the distraction caused by the stewards. When the lad got to the bottom of the steps and went left across the front of our section, a steward manhandled him and, instinctively, he resisted. the steward. This steward then assaulted the lad and dragged him towards the pitch, bending him bodily over the perimeter fence. At this point fans erupted and several fans ran towards what was happening. The lad was removed down the tunnel to the concourse while the fans protested vehemently at the assault by the steward. After minutes of protesting, the fans returned to their seats but one girl stayed talking to the GM policeman who noted full details of her complaint. She said that the lad had been ejected but then allowed back in and was stood in the tunnel out of our view. Many of us on the back three or four rows were so wound up by what we had seen off the pitch, that we spent the rest of the game standing and, in addition to using our anger to get behind the team even more, we also verbally abused the stewards. No action was taken by the stewards, because they knew that there had been a miscarriage of justice, and their actions had provoked a mild-mannered crowd into a seething mob. When the equaliser came, it was as though it was some form of retribution for what one of our fans had suffered unjustly! As we left our section at the end, we made it perfectly clear what we thought of the stewarding and the way in which it had tarnished the image of Colchester United. We also said that we would be taking the matter further. I have now received a text from M_OAFC saying that the lad was charged with assault, which is absolutely outrageous! With so many witnesses to the lad being assaulted by the steward, I can only assume the assault charge will be dropped in due course and replaced with a warning. If the charge is not dropped, I would be prepared to act as a witness for the accused in Court. I also feel that the lad should take action against the steward for assault. M_OAFC says that he, johnny punkster and wardlelatic, who were staying overnight in Colchester, have looked after the lad, put him up, took him out last night and are taking him home today. Like me and Mrs. Sideburns, who is still fuming at the injustice, even after a good night’s sleep, they are not prepared to let the matter rest. Because the lad was charged, he has been given the name of the steward whom he is alleged to have assaulted, but whom I and others witnessed assaulting him. I shall be writing to Colchester United about the standard of stewarding with a copy to Aan Hardy, and I would suggest that others make AH aware of what they saw yesterday. The lad has about 400 witnesses. Surely the matter won't go any further. I don't know if the rules are the same at Colchester (They should be the same throughout the FL), but when I did stewarding at City, we weren't allowed to eject people by force. We had to ask them to leave, and only the Police would use force if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 It's not going to court and lads not been charged. He's had a police caution as such for assault and battery to which he had to put his signature to or stay in the cells longer!!!! back covered. Anyway having spoke with him and I agreed, it's best just left alone and putting down to experience. That'll teach him to go to Football with Jacko and me! Once again Ritchie thanks for sorting him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 The way he grabbed him and flung him into the seats was just thuggery. Meanwhile the coppers look on Didn't see the tough guy come to the top again to try and kick some more out though. The ticket situation was madness too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 The way he grabbed him and flung him into the seats was just thuggery. Meanwhile the coppers look on Didn't see the tough guy come to the top again to try and kick some more out though. The ticket situation was madness too. Yes I saw red when he was being man handled, way outta order. Never had a prob with tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) It's not going to court and lads not been charged. He's had a police caution as such for assault and battery to which he had to put his signature to or stay in the cells longer!!!! back covered. Anyway having spoke with him and I agreed, it's best just left alone and putting down to experience. That'll teach him to go to Football with Jacko and me! Once again Ritchie thanks for sorting him out. Yes I saw red when he was being man handled, way outta order. I am surprised that you say it's best laft alone and put down to experience. The lad was assaulted in front of many witnesses. The caution is an unwarranted blemish on his character. He was the victim rather than the assailant. The way I see it is that we have a moral obligation to bring this to the attention of the home club to enable it to take action to prevent any of its stewards from assaulting people in future. We also are obliged to bring to the attention of Alan Hardy the unwarranted treatment of one of our fans. If I was the victim, I would be taking legal action against the steward. Edited August 31, 2008 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 The removal of fans for standing up was just shocking.... from as soon as I got into the ground the number of stewards was way over the top, everywhere you looked they were there just watching. The stewards asked fans to sit down a few minutes into the game and we all did. Nobody was stood up again for any significate period of time. When Titch and a few stood up for over a few minutes just before HT three stewards came up. Things were said (heard roughly but I'll leave it to Titch to say what happened if he wants) and they left. As soon as he stepped under the stand they surrounded him and threw him out. They came up to a few more Latics fans during the second half for what reason no one know at the time ...... to tell people to stop taking pictures or they would be removed (heard a story of one these people threatened was a elderly gentleman) Diego mentioned what happened with the young lad in thesecond half, I know they were in there right to removed someone for persistant standing .... but at no point was there ever persistant standing until after said event when many fans stood for the rest of the game. The stewards had good reason from then on to remove a larger section of the Latics support but choose not to bother with us again. Some silly fool realised in the Q for the bus that he had forgot his flags, asked a steward to let him in, got escorted to his flags by the steward (past the de-brief of the away end stewards) on the way the steward was asking him what had happened. The steward said that the club were being very closely watched by the council, I told him that was no excuse for the way they looked after the game. Flags got .... then a tap on the shoulder, it was the senior steward. "do you mind answer why you were perticularly abusive to this guy over there as you left the ground" as he points to the steward who the majority of the Latics fans said was involved in incident before Taylors goal. He was told that it was because of his involvement of the removal of a young fan, and then attacking him him on the way out. Senior steward said but it wasn't him and that I was basically stupid for believing people when they said it was that steward. "because they are my mates, I see them ever game, I trust them.. so why wouldn't I believe them. But if you say it wasn't him fair enough" He also added that the lad in question had assaulted one of his stewards when he was being removed, hence why the incident errupted. I just laughed and said that there are plenty of witnesses and pictures to say otherwise. He asked me then would I apoligise to him as I agreed it wasn't him, to his shock I said absolutely no problem what so ever and said "IF it wasn't you then I apoligise for my behaviour towards you." I added that I did understand that they are all still being trained (don't think he liked that) but they better learn how to control themselves because if they acted like that against Millwall they'd have a riot on your hands. There was zero chance of any trouble from Latics fans today, yet they still managed to find some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky_Latic Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 http://forum.cu-fcchat.com/viewtopic.php?f...p;sk=t&sd=a Seems Colchester fans themselves arent too fond of their stewards. If the lad was actually assaulted, he shouldnt just let it go. He should be going to see Latics Football Intelligence officers and demanding they get the cctv footage off Colchester, witness statements from both the dibble and a number of fans present and then seeking a solicitor to take it further. Or is it best to let it go and leave it for the next away fan who dares stand up to get assaulted as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Forgot .... they said 38 Colchester fans were ejected first match of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I am surprised that you say it's best laft alone and put down to experience. The lad was assaulted in front of many witnesses. The caution is an unwarranted blemish on his character. He was the victim rather than the assailant. The way I see it is that we have a moral obligation to bring this to the attention of the home club to enable it to take action to prevent any of its stewards from assaulting people in future. We also are obliged to bring to the attention of Alan Hardy the unwarranted treatment of one of our fans. If I was the victim, I would be taking legal action against the steward. Go ahead you wont win. It didn't bother me per se that he was getting ejected but the treatment I saw then I was over and down with the red mist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I was sat directly in front of the lad who was thrown out. I have no idea what he was thrown out for. Surely to be thrown out for persistant standing you need to be told to sit down on more than one occasion. He was not. Even when asking him to leave no mention was made of persistant standing. A few minutes earlier Latics & England had been bluntly told to stop taking photos with the words " One more photo and you're out" I would have thought that "Excuse me sir, taking photographs is against ground regulations, can you please put your camera away" would have been a better way to approach the situation. In what other situation are you treated with such lack of respect as a paying customer? Everyone involved seemed to be learning as they went along, from the bus drivers to the stewards outside the ground, turnstile stewards, ticketing staff. This is understandable in a new ground and there are bound to be teething problems. I get the impression the stewards were eager to put their newfound training into practice, by ejecting someone. They will certainly have learnt lessons from yesterday. They will rarely have a better behaved away crowd all season, but they somehow managed to create an inflammatory situation. If he was thrown out for persistant standing, the end result of the stewards' actions was that many Latics fans stood for the remainder of the game, with similar numbers then standing in the Colchester end. Treat fans of Millwall or Leeds that way, then ask them to stand in a queue full of home fans poiltely waiting for the shuttle bus. It doesn't bear thinking about. The stewards at the end were laughing as Latics fans were angrily putting their point across. This was the final straw for me and I said a few things to the stewards that I'm not proud of. I should have stayed calm and not reacted as I did. If this caused any offence to any Latics fans I apologise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Go ahead you wont win. It didn't bother me per se that he was getting ejected but the treatment I saw then I was over and down with the red mist. If the fan had been ejected from the stadium for repeated standing, that would have been the end of the matter, but when he was assaulted in front of the visiting fans, the matter took on a whole new complexion. He was going quietly until he was manhandled by the steward. He took exception to being manhandled - the steward exceeding his authority - and resisted, which the steward took as licence to assault him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean 1984 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 crap stadium crap fans crap stewards crap run club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latic12345 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 "Sit down, and behave ourselves" Wasn't a savoury incident to say the least yesterday. I think most have covered everything that happened. The way in which the stewards looked proud on the way out. Even worse was, when trying to articulate myself to a copper after the game, he got on the front foot and got very aggressive towards me. THere didn't seem to be any reason for it having asked a simple question in a calm manner. Some police and stewards at football throughout the land need to stop thinking of football fans as something they have found on the bottom of their shoe, but as people who actually have jobs during the week and are entitled to articulate themselves. Some fans have a hell of a lot to lose and whilst common sense is not prevailing in football grounds, we could have a real problem on our hands!! To the lad who was thrown out. It should be absolutely your call what you do about it. I can understand if you just want to let it be. It's funny how when things like this happen, they get swept under the carpet and it is very very difficult to prove anything against a steward. To the stewards, well done on turning a fun, mild mannered, banterous atmosphere into a stand off. It's interesting that you picked on a lad who seemed to be 17 / 18 and none of the bigger guys who had been standing as much if not more (though never persistent and on the back rows!!). I wonder why that was? You certainly are going to have fun when Leeds / Millwall are in town. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) If the fan had been ejected from the stadium for repeated standing, that would have been the end of the matter, but when he was assaulted in front of the visiting fans, the matter took on a whole new complexion. He was going quietly until he was manhandled by the steward. He took exception to being manhandled - the steward exceeding his authority - and resisted, which the steward took as licence to assault him. No one is denying that Diego. But the lad himself wants it to be an end. Does he have that right? Edited August 31, 2008 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Chaos, was LaticsLee off here if im not mistaken.... As yiu say, it was 17 year old LaticsLee. I understand that he was told that if he did not put his signature on the Police document, his detention would have lasted for at least a week. His detention meant that he was unable to travel back home with Lags & Co., and it was only with the help of the other Latics fans to whom I've referred earlier, who were staying overnight in Colchester, that he was provided with accommodation and transport home today. Photographs have been taken of the cuff marks on his wrists. These willl heal in time but the emotional scar may be a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 No one is denying that Diego. But the lad himself wants it to be an end. Does he have that right? Of course he has that right, but Colchester need to be made aware of the damage done to the perception of the club by the steward being observed to exceed his authority. That's what I'm going to do, with a copy to AH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) Of course he has that right, but Colchester need to be made aware of the damage done to the perception of the club by the steward being observed to exceed his authority. That's what I'm going to do, with a copy to AH. That's good. I hope it makes the difference. It's always the same, they cause havoc and when you confront them, all you get is you'll follow him if you don't shut up. They stewards themselves know the person responsible was outta order and you would hope he's been told. The police soon prevented anyone confonting the guilty steward, I can honestly say I've never felt the urge to confront a steward before but his manhandling had me out my seat in an instant. Edited August 31, 2008 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 That's good. I hope it makes the difference. It's always the same, they cause havoc and when you confront them, all you get is you'll follow him if you don't shut up. They stewards themselves know the person responsible was outta order and you would hope he's been told. The police soon prevented anyone confonting the guilty steward, I can honestly say I've never felt the urge to confront a steward before but his manhandling had me out my seat in an instant. EDIT: However they've covered their backs gaining Lee's signature so you'll not win on that score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) As yiu say, it was 17 year old LaticsLee. I understand that he was told that if he did not put his signature on the Police document, his detention would have lasted for at least a week. His detention meant that he was unable to travel back home with Lags & Co., and it was only with the help of the other Latics fans to whom I've referred earlier, who were staying overnight in Colchester, that he was provided with accommodation and transport home today. Photographs have been taken of the cuff marks on his wrists. These willl heal in time but the emotional scar may be a different matter. I'd like to add in case anyone is in any doubt and was thinking we just left the lad. We made sure arrangements were made for Lee prior to leaving. Edited August 31, 2008 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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