steveoafc Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's going on with this guy? .. anonymous performance again tonight, his head is definitely not right. Where's the aggresion we used to see from him? Pity we're so short of quality strikers at the moment because there's a place up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's going on with this guy? .. anonymous performance again tonight, his head is definitely not right. Where's the aggresion we used to see from him? Pity we're so short of quality strikers at the moment because there's a place up for grabs. Reputation. Its fairly common at quite a few levels of football (more so the higher you go though), players get picked on what they did in the past not what they are doing in the Now. But like someone once said, "Form is temporary. Class is permanent." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Reputation. Its fairly common at quite a few levels of football (more so the higher you go though), players get picked on what they did in the past not what they are doing in the Now. But like someone once said, "Form is temporary. Class is permanent." That's the frustrating thing, we know what he can do but he's just not at the races lately for club or country. Who could replace him though?........shame defoe is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 He simply should not be in the side... It sums up why I couldn't be arsed watching tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 He simply should not be in the side... It sums up why I couldn't be arsed watching tonight... You didn't miss much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 And if you could have been arsed watching tonight, you'd know that picking out Wayne Rooney is nonsense. I know he's meant to be our best player but we have to stop this obsession with one individual. It's the same with Torres at Liverpool. Yes Rooney had a (very) poor game. No point denying that. But so did the rest of the team. Nobody shone. Absolutely nobody. The two players I can't really criticise are Rio and Hart. But it's downright bloody scary that a crocked and ageing Ferdinand suddenly looks head and shoulders our best centre half. He's certainly the only one with the faintest idea what to do with the ball. I quite like Ashley Young, at his level, but if he's our England future then we're destined to be no better than top 16 in the world. If that. It's as if the last two years never happened. And that simply means we can write off the next two years. Even if we qualify for the 2012 Euros we know precisely what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 It's not so much the poor form rooney is showing ( although it is worrying ) but just his whole demeanour. There appears to be a distinct lack of desire or appetite. IMO he needs taking out of the england picture until his hunger returns. I agree that nobody did themselves justice tonight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 It's not so much the poor form rooney is showing ( although it is worrying ) but just his whole demeanour. There appears to be a distinct lack of desire or appetite. IMO he needs taking out of the england picture until his hunger returns. I think that is entirely fair comment. Apart from a couple of glimpses in this season's qualifiers - and it has been mere glimpses - he hasn't really looked himself in an England shirt for a very long time. A rest from the England set up (maybe the remainder of this season?), a chance to get properly fit, and a chance to concentrate on rediscovering his form and his joy for the game in a United shirt might be the best thing for him. Won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddogs Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 can someone tell me why glen johnson keeps getting selected cause he was turd again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty doesn't know Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's going on with this guy? .. anonymous performance again tonight, his head is definitely not right. Where's the aggresion we used to see from him? Pity we're so short of quality strikers at the moment because there's a place up for grabs. darren bent deserves a proper chance and has done for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebuckley06 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 dont even think he should be playin for united at the min but none of this crap bout givin him time off make him sit on the bench an keep/get sharp in the reserves. give him a dose of the real world (term used as loosly as possible for someone who earns 100k+ a week) an then make him earn his place back thats the only way he will get his passion back IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 dont even think he should be playin for united at the min but none of this crap bout givin him time off make him sit on the bench an keep/get sharp in the reserves. give him a dose of the real world (term used as loosly as possible for someone who earns 100k+ a week) an then make him earn his place back thats the only way he will get his passion back IMO isnt that why fergie let him play last night? flamin joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 How is rooney anywhere near the england side? Perhaps his 4 assists in the previous game were considered worthy. (I thought he was poor v Bulgaria to be fair, despite the assists, but got slated for such a view!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Kevin Davies ? English football is on its arse Ive lost heart since the Bloemfontein massacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Kevin Davies ? English football is on its arse Ive lost heart since the Bloemfontein massacre How come you left it so late? The closest we've come to not being gash is 96 and even then we struggled to beat Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 How come you left it so late? The closest we've come to not being gash is 96 and even then we struggled to beat Scotland. My age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 My age Ouch! I asked for that. I remember when it was all fields round here and I didn't see a banana till I was 28..... you could leave your door open...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Ouch! I asked for that. I remember when it was all fields round here and I didn't see a banana till I was 28..... you could leave your door open...... you can still leave your door open , just dont expect your TV to be there when your back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's as if the last two years never happened. And that simply means we can write off the next two years. Even if we qualify for the 2012 Euros we know precisely what will happen. This is the worst thing regarding all of this. A couple of results against a couple of poor sides and the debacle is starting all over again. I would say it is at least ten years before we can get kids taught properly, and start to get things coming through. Probably longer. All this does is delay the wait of 10+ years before we can compete with decent sides. All we can hope for is a dull Dutchesque hack your way through soft arsed teams approach and a loss in a major final. At best. Rooney and his form is completely irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebuckley06 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This is the worst thing regarding all of this. A couple of results against a couple of poor sides and the debacle is starting all over again. I would say it is at least ten years before we can get kids taught properly, and start to get things coming through. Probably longer. All this does is delay the wait of 10+ years before we can compete with decent sides. All we can hope for is a dull Dutchesque hack your way through soft arsed teams approach and a loss in a major final. At best. Rooney and his form is completely irrelevant. i disagree. We play a boring rigid 442 that offers little in creativity or attcking threat. different manager with a different philosophy and we could start playing some decent stuff and getting decent results. nt sayin a change of style would make us world beaters but would make a huge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Ive lost heart since the Bloemfontein massacre I was heartened to see two footballing nations get what they deserve (and I don't just mean with regards to the performances on the day). Watching amongst a load of hot German blondies, all seemingly without questionable body hair, was just the cherry on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I was heartened to see two footballing nations get what they deserve (and I don't just mean with regards to the performances on the day). Watching amongst a load of hot German blondies, all seemingly without questionable body hair, was just the cherry on top. please do go on........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's much, much deeper than a manager and a formation. Except for a brief and somewhat patchy respite under Tel, and that fluke 5-1 in Munich, England have played boring, rigid football for as long as I can remember. I can't see how it will take less than a generation to actually improve the quality of football we play. And that's if the necessary changes were made. Which they won't be. In fact I'll boldly predict, right now, England will win nothing in the lifetime of anyone on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 please do go on........... I'd love to but I didn't crack on. It's been a pretty shoddy year to be honest, though one or two hightlights make it more reminiscent of Talbot than Penney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'd love to but I didn't crack on. It's been a pretty shoddy year to be honest, though one or two hightlights make it more reminiscent of Talbot than Penney. your fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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