Stevie_J Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 This is an bold one from Hartlepool: LINK Be interesting to see how they get and I wonder how something like this would affect sales at Latics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 This is an bold one from Hartlepool: LINK Be interesting to see how they get and I wonder how something like this would affect sales at Latics. I hope it works out for Hartlepool. Something similar was tried here but it was met with the same 'we can't do that so I won't bother' attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 if only latics would do the same , going to send email to ah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I hope it works out for Hartlepool. Something similar was tried here but it was met with the same 'we can't do that so I won't bother' attitude. But was the bottom price set at £100 ? hell if it was and all adult season ticket holders promised and delivered buying two ST's each (still cheaper than currently one) it would be easy to reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 But was the bottom price set at £100 ? hell if it was and all adult season ticket holders promised and delivered buying two ST's each (still cheaper than currently one) it would be easy to reach. exactly lags....for that price then buying 2 is an option... interesting to see they only need a break even figure of 4k......we have been told in the past our break even figure is 8k....but lets be honest...we aint gonna get that yet are we...could it work if the club said ok look....150 a pop but we need to shift 5k....i think this time round,with the enthusiasm of dickov and the fact its 100% better than when penney was here...people may just go for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm interested to see how this pans out for Hartlepool. They sold 559 in the opening five days, which seems pretty good given that the deadline is mid-July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Signings like Nolberto Solano will help boost season tickets though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Signings like Nolberto Solano will help boost season tickets though Indeed. Although those 559 were pre-Nobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 They've now sold 3,504 - only 496 tickets away from the 4,000. Five days left. Good on 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 They've now sold 3,504 - only 496 tickets away from the 4,000. Five days left. Good on 'em. Fair play to em, just hope it doesnt come back and bite them in the arse financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 They've now sold 3,504 - only 496 tickets away from the 4,000. Five days left. Good on 'em. That's not bad going considering they only averaged about 3500 in total last season. add a few pay on the dayers and away fans the should but 1000 on that this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 That's not bad going considering they only averaged about 3500 in total last season. add a few pay on the dayers and away fans the should but 1000 on that this year Thats the bit that could go wrong though, they are more than likely to lose alot of pay on the dayers as alot of them will have bought season tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Thats the bit that could go wrong though, they are more than likely to lose alot of pay on the dayers as alot of them will have bought season tickets. that's true but the match day revenue should go up slightly with extra people in car park, buying programmes, food etc. Don't know if that will cover it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 4,148 at COB yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 4,148 at COB yesterday. and still 2 days to go until the deadline. Is this proof that these initiatives work or a 1 off or just luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) They've bumped up the pay on the day prices too- its now £25 for a seat at Hartlepool and £20 if you are happy to stand (so away fans without concessions is £25 which is a bit of a rip-off) see http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/MatchdayPrices/0,,10326,00.html Hartlepool's location means that they don't have any big rivals in our league- their nearest league opponent is probably Huddersfield and they are easily over an hour away on a good day. So getting the occassional fan to pay for 5 games in advance (most occassional fans will stand) makes sense a bit for them but they are still likely to loose money compared to last season. In 2009-10 their average attendance was 3444 (that includes away fans), our average attendance in the same year (Penney) was 4630. I reckon that to make money, compared to normal operating, on a scheme like this we'd have to sell over 6000 season tickets which considering at times we struggle to get 6000 home seats available makes it a bit difficult. How much would a temporary stand ala the old Gene Kelly one at Blackpool cost- as it might be feasible for us to make one of those and charge a £100 quid for a season ticket in there? Edited July 14, 2011 by rudemedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_balls Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Just put a burgen van in, porta-loo, some beer and charge £10-13 in to watch the game, i reckon you'd get 500-750 fans back, i would go every game if thatr was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 A massive 5,077 now sold. It's got to be a success with those figures, hasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 A massive 5,077 now sold. It's got to be a success with those figures, hasn't it? Can't be done Steve, Laticnomics says so…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Can't be done Steve, Laticnomics says so…. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 A massive 5,077 now sold. It's got to be a success with those figures, hasn't it? Depends on how many season tickets they sell under normal circumstances- 1500 at £300 a pop its a success, 2000 at £300 it isn't. Plus you have to take into account the loss of pay on the day custom. As it stands to reason some people who used to pay on the day won't have to as they now have season tickets- so you actually need to sell more than the factorial. Given that Pool were happy to sell season tickets at £100 if they got 4000 I think they will have made money. Current season ticket prices at Oldham are £300+ and we have roughly 2000 season ticket holders. If we were to sell season tickets at £100 we would need to sell over 6000 to make the same money. This season we are going to be shutting the RRE to home fans on a few occassions, to save/make money, that leaves us on those occassions around 6000 home seats left. We cannot have more season ticket holders than seats, therefore whilst we have a 3 sided BP it is not profitable and we would be better staying with what we have. If we move/redevelop it might be doable, until then it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 End of deadline day and they've sold just shy of 5,700. I think I saw somewhere that their usual figure is around 1,600 (pretty comparable with our own). More people in the ground means more sales of programmes, food, beer, parking, etc. It also potentially increases the following long-term with a few finding or re-finding the bug. Also, it means they can make a few quid more out of away fans by bumping up the price of matchday tickets considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 A massive 5,077 now sold. It's got to be a success with those figures, hasn't it? Bloody brilliant effort! Just wished latics did this at some point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 End of deadline day and they've sold just shy of 5,700. I think I saw somewhere that their usual figure is around 1,600 (pretty comparable with our own). More people in the ground means more sales of programmer, food, beer, parking, etc. It also potentially increases the following long-term with a few finding or re-finding the bug. Also, it means they can make a few quid more out of away fans by bumping up the price of matchday to tickets considerably. Probably end up selling more merchandise too, as well as finding it easier selling the club to sponsors and advertisers. I was a big proponent of this type of initiative being tried out at Latics a few years ago...got shouted down on here by virtually everyone..usually the loss of pay on the day income was cited... I genuinely felt we could've pulled it off about 4 years ago, but I'm not so sure now....we've seen home crowds drop quite a bit in that time and apathy increase, budget decrease..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Probably end up selling more merchandise too, as well as finding it easier selling the club to sponsors and advertisers. I was a big proponent of this type of initiative being tried out at Latics a few years ago...got shouted down on here by virtually everyone..usually the loss of pay on the day income was cited... I genuinely felt we could've pulled it off about 4 years ago, but I'm not so sure now....we've seen home crowds drop quite a bit in that time and apathy increase, budget decrease..... They would probably have to work their wage budget too solely on the basis of the season ticket revenue, as I doubt they will get many pay on the dayers at all, but I would imagine programme sales, food sales etc would go through the roof, and they wouldnt have to worry about not being able to pay the wages after a couple of postponements. They will only know if it has worked if at the end of 2011/2012 season there revenue is the same as or higher than last season, b ut sincerely hope it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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