Lukers1 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Grow a feckin pair of balls and stand yer feckin ground. You got pushed off like a soft fecker tonight.... grow up quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Grow a feckin pair of balls and stand yer feckin ground. You got pushed off like a soft fecker tonight.... grow up quick Also, why was he left with two men to mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Also, why was he left with two men to mark? My god, are u protecting that :censored: piece of non defending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Good to see Zander giving away a penalty in League Two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 My god, are u protecting that :censored: piece of non defending No, I agree he should of stood his ground and grow a pair, but he still shouldn't of been left with two men to mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjonesyyoafc Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 the goalscorer was Simpson's man I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 What because Simpson said so on Twitter? Watch the pictures like I did live at MK, he was marking :censored:ing space again and that second was unbelievably poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) I think Simpson may be "taking one for the team" on Twitter. We had four men near post with nobody near them and Tarky wandering around in the middle of the penalty area with two men near him. Now I've now idea if we're meant to be zonal or man to man at the back. And neither have the players. It's :censored:e. As for the second, if Tarky hadn't got involved in something in their box he may have been able to get back and plug the gap M'Changama had to cover. Not sure though. It was a bloody fast break. Edited August 19, 2012 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Still doesnt deserve the dogs abuse on twitter some of the tweets are ridiculous to a 19 year old, offensive and will do nothing to help him be a better player despite his responses. The team as a whole are not defending set pieces as they should and for me thats down to Taggart as its been going on for months. I accept the players have to remember and deliver but we appear fragile every time. Highlighted the key bit. Five of our players got it dreadfully wrong for their first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingthe Faith Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Still doesnt deserve the dogs abuse on twitter some of the tweets are ridiculous to a 19 year old, offensive and will do nothing to help him be a better player despite his responses. The team as a whole are not defending set pieces as they should and for me thats down to Taggart as its been going on for months. I accept the players have to remember and deliver but we appear fragile every time. Highlighted the key bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Some utter bollocks here. Tarky was man-marking and stuck with his man. Simpson was marking the next lad and inexplicably drifted two yards forward, allowing his man space for a free header. His fault. He admitted it. Tarky bollocked him afterwards. I fail to see how he was to blame for seconded goal either. It was M'Changama that was skinned. People really are stretching the boundaries of fact to slag off a 19-year-old who is supposed to be one of our own. Sad times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Some utter bollocks here. Tarky was man-marking and stuck with his man. Simpson was marking the next lad and inexplicably drifted two yards forward, allowing his man space for a free header. His fault. He admitted it. Tarky bollocked him afterwards. I fail to see how he was to blame for seconded goal either. It was M'Changama that was skinned. People really are stretching the boundaries of fact to slag off a 19-year-old who is supposed to be one of our own. Sad times Hang on......Tarky goes up for a dead ball situation, decides to have a stupid dumbass argument with a Dons player whilst the ball is still in play and they are charging down the field to score. Tarky should have bust a gut, as a DEFENDER, to get back to DEFEND. To say it's M'Changama's fault when Tarky showed his indiscipline is out of order and totally wrong. And I don't get this "slagging off one of our own"........is M'Changama whilst he wears a Latics shirt not one of our own? Or does it only matter when it's someone who has come through the ranks? I've read enough on this subject to understand that a few people on here "cherry-pick" who can and cannot be criticised. A classic example was Eardley who could do no wrong and Lomax who could do no right. Edited August 19, 2012 by mikejh45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Highlighted the key bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hang on......Tarky goes up for a dead ball situation, decides to have a stupid dumbass argument with a Dons player whilst the ball is still in play and they are charging down the field to score. Tarky should have bust a gut, as a DEFENDER, to get back to DEFEND. To say it's M'Changama's fault when Tarky showed his indiscipline is out of order and totally wrong. And I don't get this "slagging off one of our own"........is M'Changama whilst he wears a Latics shirt not one of our own? Or does it only matter when it's someone who has come through the ranks? I've read enough on this subject to understand that a few people on here "cherry-pick" who can and cannot be criticised. A classic example was Eardley who could do no wrong and Lomax who could do no right. He was pushed out of the club because of the abuse he got from our support!!! As for their 2nd goal, I said to my mate when MK got the ball "look at Tarky arguing with their player, get back and :censored:ing defend!!!!!!" and they go and score. Needless to say I was fuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It is not just our own fans who say Tarky is not good enough its others as well. Plenty of fans against sheff wed were saying how he is a footballer because he can't defend. He always wants to play a long ball and he does stupid stuff. The guy needs to be dropped and Byrne to go into centre back and brown to go into right back giving Croft a runner. Another point is that players who come from the youth should not have a higher status of "our own" while everyone is wearing an Oldham badge they all are our own players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Was slagging off M'Changama, just pointing out the fact he got done for skill by Powell for the second goal - maybe should have tried to bring him down on the edge of the box and taken the booking? Surely Tarky would have had to have emulated Usain Bolt to get back and DEFEND. Wasn't M'Voto was in the box too - he didn't get in an argument and he didn't get back in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 *wasn't lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) just seen the goals and the first is clearly Simpsons man, he drifts forward watching the ball and Tarkowski is left with 2 to mark, he is pushed by the man he is supposed to ne marking and then Simpson man gets up in front of both of them, Tarkowski clearly goes off on Simpson for not doing his job. Its no suprise to me now that he is getting hammered for goals we concede, that typical latics fans reactions every season,someone has to be at fault he is by no means the finished article but to lay blame at his door for goals in games that are not his fault and ignore other players faults is bull :censored:! and is :censored:in typical of a lot latics fans Edited August 19, 2012 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 It is not just our own fans who say Tarky is not good enough its others as well. Plenty of fans against sheff wed were saying how he is a footballer because he can't defend. He always wants to play a long ball and he does stupid stuff. The guy needs to be dropped and Byrne to go into centre back and brown to go into right back giving Croft a runner. Another point is that players who come from the youth should not have a higher status of "our own" while everyone is wearing an Oldham badge they all are our own players. I have to agree now the red mist has gone, he is not ready as a league 1 defender . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 just seen the goals and the first is clearly Simpsons man, he drifts forward watching the ball and Tarkowski is left with 2 to mark, he is pushed by the man he is supposed to ne marking and then Simpson man gets up in front of both of them, Tarkowski clearly goes off on Simpson for not doing his job. Its no suprise to me now that he is getting hammered for goals we concede, that typical latics fans reactions every season,someone has to be at fault he is by no means the finished article but to lay blame at his door for goals in games that are not his fault and ignore other players faults is bull :censored:! and is :censored:in typical of a lot latics fans And your opinion of Tarky after the second goal is.......................??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 And your opinion of Tarky after the second goal is.......................??? i didnt comment on it, because i didnt see him on my tv pictures , so i cant say he is at fault or not - I will have to take others word for that one but tbf they broke from their own area and if the other 10 cant stop them breaking the length of the pitch then it must be his fault right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 i didnt comment on it, because i didnt see him on my tv pictures , so i cant say he is at fault or not - I will have to take others word for that one but tbf they broke from their own area and if the other 10 cant stop them breaking the length of the pitch then it must be his fault right? I was right behind the goal........he stopped to argue in open play.........he is a defender and he did not defend.......he started to trot back once the Dons had crossed over the half way line. HE WAS MISSING FROM HIS POST!!! Irrespective of the other players.......Tarky did not do his job. If he had chased back like Mvoto and put an extra body in defence instead of being a dickhead, the second goal may have been prevented. He cannot be defended for his stupidity over the second goal and fully deserves the arse-kicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hang on......Tarky goes up for a dead ball situation, decides to have a stupid dumbass argument with a Dons player whilst the ball is still in play and they are charging down the field to score. Tarky should have bust a gut, as a DEFENDER, to get back to DEFEND. To say it's M'Changama's fault when Tarky showed his indiscipline is out of order and totally wrong. And I don't get this "slagging off one of our own"........is M'Changama whilst he wears a Latics shirt not one of our own? Or does it only matter when it's someone who has come through the ranks? I've read enough on this subject to understand that a few people on here "cherry-pick" who can and cannot be criticised.A classic example was Eardley who could do no wrong and Lomax who could do no right. I was fully in agrement until I you made this point. Eardley used to always get the blame for other peoples mistakes, a classic example being Hereford all their goals came from down our LEFT hand side and yet Eardley playing on the RIGHT. Anyways it's clearly evident that Eardley is a better player by the fact that he's playinng in the Championship and Lomax is playing in the Conference. But ultimately we're all entitled to an opinion, I just don't agree with yours about Eardley but I do about people cherry picking who they blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I was right behind the goal........he stopped to argue in open play.........he is a defender and he did not defend.......he started to trot back once the Dons had crossed over the half way line. HE WAS MISSING FROM HIS POST!!! Irrespective of the other players.......Tarky did not do his job. If he had chased back like Mvoto and put an extra body in defence instead of being a dickhead, the second goal may have been prevented. He cannot be defended for his stupidity over the second goal and fully deserves the arse-kicking. fine, as i say i didnt see him do that, but 10 players should/could have stopped it like the midfielder who ball watched and chased out wide leaving the middle of the pitch open why are people blaming him for the first when it clearly wasn't his fault???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 fine, as i say i didnt see him do that, but 10 players should/could have stopped it like the midfielder who ball watched and chased out wide leaving the middle of the pitch open why are people blaming him for the first when it clearly wasn't his fault???? What does "fine" mean? Read my posts and my arguments are about the second goal only.......I've not mentioned the first. Where I have criticised is that I firmly believe he is not ready physically, mentally or tactically for the first team. Move Byrne in and bring Brown in at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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