Aaron Howarth Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Not to bring in any negativity, but it's pretty much just suddenly dawned on me after reading the PNE Fans forum that we have 4 losses in the first 6 games, all of which we've been the much better side except walsall. I've pretty much shadowed this stat due to our performances (and the shrewsbury result definitely helped). How the piss has that happened haha? When we're playing like we are. Hopefully its not a trend for the season, I've been telling neutrals that once we click we'll start beating teams left right and centre I just hope i'm right! For anyone who gives a toss as well, as of right now 525 sold for rotherham, 1500 tics on saturday to Roar us onto 3 points? (and not just a slick easy on the eye performance!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 If Monday is anything to go by we won't be losing as many for too long. I'd be far worried if we barely looked threatening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchcass Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I'm not great at maths but if we carry on with our current form we will end up with... (hold on)... 45.99999999 points at the end of the season. We need to convert some more of these many chances we are creating into goals or we will be involved in yet another relegation fight come squeaky bum time next year. Plenty of time yet though. Anything could happen. Edited September 11, 2013 by butchcass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Im really not sure what to think. Loads of encouragaging points, a few worrying ones too. We are dominating games well, but creating very little from open play (in the games I've seen) Derby, Tranmere, Walsall and Preston. We are looking to play the right way, teams are saying how well we have played against them - but we are losing. If a trait of a good side is to play badly and win, would you consider a trait of a bad side is to play well and lose? There is a long long way to go yet, overall I'm not worried. There is loads to work with. We need to get ourselves an early goal in a game. I'm convinced an early goal would have seen us slap tranmere and maybe preston. The play is good, the final ball isn't. That though is the hardest part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Howarth Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Agreed Pukka an early goal and I think we will win most games, look at shrewsbury, early goal from Danny P and we absolutely slaughtered them. Im going for 3-1 Oldham on saturday, really think we'll be the side to end rotherhams unbeaten run at home (believe its 10-12 games). We just need to score when on top and dont make any daft mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The fact LJ isn't sugar coating it in his post match comments about "plucky losers" etc... gives me confidence. Better to be baffled how we've managed to lose a game than worried how we're ever going to win one again. Relax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 On the bright side, the last time we started the season with anywhere near as good a performance level as this season we had a record after 6 games of W1 D1 L4 in Shez's playoff season. Between then and new years day we lost 2 matches and got to 2nd in the league. I doubt we'll go on that good a run, but when everything gels for this lot it could easily be spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Howarth Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 I still think LJ isn't sure about his strike partnership, Rooney seems to be on the sheet no matter what, I think for Rotherham he'll go with Rooney and Mcdonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Agreed Pukka an early goal and I think we will win most games, look at shrewsbury, early goal from Danny P and we absolutely slaughtered them. Scoring early makes the opposition completely change their tactics against us, forcing them onto full-on attack to try and get back into the game. Our football is built to murder those sort of sides. My worry is being able to grind those teams down and I feel it'll be less often than not. That said, from what I've seen convinces me we should have enough to avoid going down this season. Those that think we'll be in the mix for promotion are on another planet in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Ritchies Toupee Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The problem we have always had is incosistency, again on monday we looked great for most of the game but couldnt finish the chances we had. it does appear to be the case that once we get the first goal early in the game we then seem to go on to do well. i just hope that we can pick it up and find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Ritchies Toupee Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 some good form going into the next few games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 "Scoring early makes the opposition completely change their tactics against us, forcing them onto full-on attack to try and get back into the game. Our football is built to murder those sort of sides. My worry is being able to grind those teams down and I feel it'll be less often than not." That's how I feel. We don't have a wellens or a shez to play the final ball when things are tight. We will catch teams on the break who have sent men forward (see monty vs stevenage) and look more of a goalscoring threat. As it stands we are not creating that much from open play, despite having the vast majority of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Quite simply its the best I have seen a team play consistently like this since Newcastle 95-96. Zipping the ball around at pace for 10 or 12 passes. The batterings will come. And there will be many. Long may it continue. I would love it if we finished in the same place that they did in their league. LOVE IT! Edited September 11, 2013 by L1onheartNew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Howarth Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Scoring early makes the opposition completely change their tactics against us, forcing them onto full-on attack to try and get back into the game. Our football is built to murder those sort of sides. My worry is being able to grind those teams down and I feel it'll be less often than not. That said, from what I've seen convinces me we should have enough to avoid going down this season. Those that think we'll be in the mix for promotion are on another planet in my opinion. You reckon? I don't see why this side can't challenge for play offs, we just need to start scoring when on top (obvious I know but you see where im coming from). We're dominating all teams (bar 1) including Preston who are tipped for play offs and Peterborough, who are tipped for automatic promotion. We proved on monday that we look a side WELL above a team who will struggle to stay up (based on the bookies and pundits) Edited September 11, 2013 by Aaron Howarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Other aspect is individual mistakes. Two at Peterborough, Two at Preston and (very) arguably one v Tranmere Edited September 11, 2013 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Howarth Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Other aspect is individual mistakes. Two at Peterborough, Two at Preston and (very) arguably one v Tranmere Christ I know, Wes' tackle :censored: me, Davies was going away from goal, just guide him out! Was no need for it. Frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 We are dominating games well, but creating very little from open play (in the games I've seen) Derby, Tranmere, Walsall and Preston. The play is good, the final ball isn't. That though is the hardest part. As it stands we are not creating that much from open play, despite having the vast majority of the ball. I can't speak for Derby, Tranmere and Walsall, but just taking the Preston game, I don't think that 18 attempts and 5 on target away to one of the (supposed) top teams in the division can be described as creating little from open play. The fact that their keeper was voted MOM says it all for me. I honestly thought it was only a matter of time before we went ahead. It just needed one of those to go in and, as others have said, it would have drawn preston on to us more, exposing gaps at the back to exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 If another loss occurs I can see LJ switching to a more conservative system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Bristol - How many saves did he make from open play? I can think of 1 from schmeltz and 1 other just after half time. Most of the keeps good work came from our corners and free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Is this unrest? Is there dissent in the camp? I imagined myself saying that in the voice of Bane, I have no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Bristol - How many saves did he make from open play? I can think of 1 from schmeltz and 1 other just after half time. Most of the keeps good work came from our corners and free kicks. Aye, but wasn't it because of that good work that we didn't get the final touch? To me, that's creating chances, but I take your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 imo were lacking firepower from midfield. The oppososition seem to have us sussed and are either packing out the defence or marking our forwards out of the game. We need someone who can hit the net from outside the box., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Bristol - How many saves did he make from open play? I can think of 1 from schmeltz and 1 other just after half time. Most of the keeps good work came from our corners and free kicks. You seem determined to convince us (or yourself) that we were in fact :censored: on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) My point really is that the final ball from open play isn't up to it at the minute. If the dead balls are, that means we can deliver it... is it the movement of the forwards that is't up to it at the moment? I want to see a midfielder run past the forwards too, we lack that. Loads to work on and it looks as though I'm being harsh. I don't mean to be. It's frustrating as we are close. @Harry - no I'm not. I am pleased with 90% of it. I have an opinion that it was good with lots to work with and some bits to work on. I say "if we score early I'm convinced we would have bettered tranmere and maybe preston" - is that me saying something negative? I thought it was a good performance, but not the one you seem to. I'd love to know where I've said it was ":censored:". Edited September 11, 2013 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 imo were lacking firepower from midfield. The oppososition seem to have us sussed and are either packing out the defence or marking our forwards out of the game. We need someone who can hit the net from outside the box., Or arrive late with all those crosses coming in. We can't have it all though. He's playing two yard dogs for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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