HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 All's well that ends well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Oh I'm enjoying the win lets hope it continues, Dunn can take little credit for the way he has treated Winchester though. or credit because he has changed the formation to one that suits Winchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Oh I'm enjoying the win lets hope it continues, Dunn can take little credit for the way he has treated Winchester though. I heard that Winchester has struggled to adapt to Dunn's approach in training and has only recently started to knuckle down and get to grips with the style of play. Hence his recent appearances from the start of games. Dunn has worked with him and it has borne fruit. My source? Dunn himself. Edited October 21, 2015 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Oh I'm enjoying the win lets hope it continues, Dunn can take little credit for the way he has treated Winchester though. On the contrary you could say that a spell out of the team has done him good, shown him that last season means nothing if you are not performing in this one. I know you are not happy because he isn't picking your mate Coleman but letting that cloud your judgement over everything else is just silly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Oh I'm enjoying the win lets hope it continues, Dunn can take little credit for the way he has treated Winchester though. How has he treated him? He didn't deserve to be in the team. Then he showed up in training & was given a chance which he's now taken. He hasnt treated him badly. Maybe it made Carl realise he has to knuckle down & work every single day if he wants to be successful. Undoubted talent & last seasons form does not guarantee you a starting place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) You can't show it when you're on the bench. In hindsight, he should've been a starter, if Dunn has forecasted a step back from playing, Forte injured requiring surgery and Croft, well, not up to it. He was consistently good last season, this season he was given two games - against top of the league and Middlesbrough - where he wasn't at his best, then forgotten about until Peterborough, where we were dead-team-walking. Since then he's played 3 times and he's done well in all of them. The short-termism of managers is the cause (unless there's something going on behind the scenes) for constant rotation of teams, and it doesn't help the young lads at all. Look forward to seeing Winchester and Philliskirk from now on, if they can continue in form. He hasnt replaced Dunn, he hasnt replaced Forte, he hasnt replaced Croft. He has replaced Higdon on Saturday and Poleon last night! And most of his fans wanted him to replace Philliskirk! It is not short termism, it is called being pragmatic-picking a team to get 3 points or at least avoid defeat! Every football manager has to make these sorts of choices. Dunn at the moment is making the right ones! Hopefully Winchester will carry on working hard Edited October 21, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Just watched the highlights. He won a flick-on for Higdon. Laughed. The boy has it all... Edit: Oh yeah, now the truce has been called: cracking finish by Philly Edited October 21, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Winchester is doing what he has always done like I said if Dunn wants to take credit for that that's up to him, he shouldn't of been left out whilst players like Brown and Croft were being accommodated because they run around a lot in training. It was only really a piss poor performance against Scunthorpe that forced Dunns hand, he didn't fancy Carl in his team its as simple as that, now he can't leave him out because he is doing what he did last season, we must have the most fickle fans in the land, majority of you were knocking the lad two week ago now you all want to take credit for Dunn making him into the player he already was!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Winchester is doing what he has always done like I said if Dunn wants to take credit for that that's up to him, he shouldn't of been left out whilst players like Brown and Croft were being accommodated because they run around a lot in training. It was only really a piss poor performance against Scunthorpe that forced Dunns hand, he didn't fancy Carl in his team its as simple as that, now he can't leave him out because he is doing what he did last season, we must have the most fickle fans in the land, majority of you were knocking the lad two week ago now you all want to take credit for Dunn making him into the player he already was!!! Nobody was knocking him, we all k ow he has talent. People were purley posting legitimate reasons why they thought he wasn't playing. Unless you go to training everyday you cannot state for sure why Winchester wasn't playing. Oh & he isn't doing g what he always does because there have been spells in his career where he has been weak & unfit. He also only really made in the centre of midfield last season. No player should be in the team if he doesn't show the right application in training. I'm not saying that's the case but there's an argument for it. Dean Holden under 2 different managers clearly hasn't been pushing for him. Wonder why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I was with you till you mentioned Dean Holden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I was with you till you mentioned Dean Holden. I doubt that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesbitt1988 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 northern Ireland qualifying for the euros will make Winchester work even harder so he can try and break into that team. having lafferty around could spur him on aswel as he also wants to get into that squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) No player should be in the team if he doesn't show the right application in training. Some great footballers have been terrible trainers. Often because they can be. Dunn's....ahem.....shape throughout much of his career suggests he may have been one of them... Edited October 21, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Some great footballers have been terrible trainers. Often because they can be. Dunn's....ahem.....shape throughout much of his career suggests he may have been one of them... I bet you can't name many 21 yr old league 1 footballers in that category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Winchester is doing what he has always done like I said if Dunn wants to take credit for that that's up to him, he shouldn't of been left out whilst players like Brown and Croft were being accommodated because they run around a lot in training. It was only really a piss poor performance against Scunthorpe that forced Dunns hand, he didn't fancy Carl in his team its as simple as that, now he can't leave him out because he is doing what he did last season, we must have the most fickle fans in the land, majority of you were knocking the lad two week ago now you all want to take credit for Dunn making him into the player he already was!!! FFS You argue/discuss like my wife does! I told her last week that it is impossible to boil the water for my cuppa until she effing plugs the bleeding kettle in. She then boiled water in a pan and still thinks that she has won that argument. As in her case I just give up bleeding bothering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 I bet you can't name many 21 yr old league 1 footballers in that category? What do I win if I can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What do I win if I can? You can't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 FFS You argue/discuss like my wife does! I told her last week that it is impossible to boil the water for my cuppa until she effing plugs the bleeding kettle in. She then boiled water in a pan and still thinks that she has won that argument. As in her case I just give up bleeding bothering No I just think I'm right about Winchester the way you constantly think you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 FFS You argue/discuss like my wife does! I told her last week that it is impossible to boil the water for my cuppa until she effing plugs the bleeding kettle in. She then boiled water in a pan and still thinks that she has won that argument. As in her case I just give up bleeding bothering Did the water boil? And the kettle wasn't plugged in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 FFS You argue/discuss like my wife does! I told her last week that it is impossible to boil the water for my cuppa until she effing plugs the bleeding kettle in. She then boiled water in a pan and still thinks that she has won that argument. As in her case I just give up bleeding bothering I'm no expert, but surely she did win that argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 You don't win arguments with wives, even if you are proven factually correct it isn't a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No I just think I'm right about Winchester the way you constantly think you are. No I just think I'm right about Winchester the way you constantly KNOW you are. Just corrected that for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Did the water boil? And the kettle wasn't plugged in. I used to quite like you O4U Edited October 21, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsfan05 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 just a poor mans George Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I used to quite like you O4U Having just left my wife I should be more supportive of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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