real Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Fortunately my schedule doesn't run to yours. Would you rather be round the table, with eyes and ears open, or on the outside, desperately trying to peek through a window to grab what scraps of information come your way? You mean the seat on the board is the big positive? In what way? We don't get updates, but we do get told that a debt "might disappear" ; we get meaningless platitudes ; we end up with cashflow problems. The seat on the board doesn't appear to have done much apart from get the last incumbent a chance to end up in the club. A classic example of poor governance and what could be compared to "agency capture" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Cheers TGWB, I'm waiting for the new details with regards to membership and the who's who, is still to be completed with some info from the trust directors themselves. I will keep you posted Ta Tracy, following your reply I also looked at the meetings page - there's dates for meetings that don't have matching meeting updates, and none mention membership numbers, so I gave up. Still not sure whether there's anything being achieved for fans (rather than supplementing Corney's cashflow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Can see a protest group against the trust forming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Can see a protest group against the trust forming They could start a Oldham Athletic Independent Supporters Association I believe there is a facebook page available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 They could start a Oldham Athletic Independent Supporters Association I believe there is a facebook page available Summer holidays nearly over though. They might not get round to it till autumn half term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 You mean the seat on the board is the big positive? In what way? We don't get updates, but we do get told that a debt "might disappear" ; we get meaningless platitudes ; we end up with cashflow problems. The seat on the board doesn't appear to have done much apart from get the last incumbent a chance to end up in the club. A classic example of poor governance and what could be compared to "agency capture" Do you believe you are entitled to "know it all"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Tracy, following your reply I also looked at the meetings page - there's dates for meetings that don't have matching meeting updates, and none mention membership numbers, so I gave up. Still not sure whether there's anything being achieved for fans (rather than supplementing Corney's cashflow) Someone get this kid the membership numbers before they combust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Someone get this kid the membership numbers before they combust... That's hilarious. Is it really such a major ask? Even tracy admits it's a valid question. The trust has responsibility for the 3% stake and directors seat that I and many others contributed to. If it can't even articulate its membership numbers, what faith is there that it can do anything of any worth? Mock if you like, cos it's easier than wanting to see an effective trust doing something visible and gaining strength and momentum through increased membership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Do you believe you are entitled to "know it all"? Where have I asked for that? Do you believe that comment on the debt disappearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Someone get this kid the membership numbers before they combust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Where have I asked for that? Do you believe that comment on the debt disappearing?I'm merely trying to understand whether you only want to know about the commercially sensitive data surrounding the accounts or whether your intense interest is the club goes down to how many blades of grass are cut per hour and where the tea lady is going on holiday in two years time. So. Where do you draw the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Could a request for membership numbers really be classed as releasing commercially sensitive data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Could a request for membership numbers really be classed as releasing commercially sensitive data?He's on about loans for the club but also relates to his previous responses. He's set in his ways and unwilling to change, shouldn't challenge it I guess but he's busy giving flack out so I'll dish him some back. (Awesome reverse psychology now because I've told him that) ((Doubly so)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's on about loans for the club but also relates to his previous responses. He's set in his ways and unwilling to change, shouldn't challenge it I guess but he's busy giving flack out so I'll dish him some back. (Awesome reverse psychology now because I've told him that) ((Doubly so)) You are an ignorant, trolling fool. What's the flak I've given out cherub? I think you need to look in the mirror and stop looking for my every post to fulfil your sad existence. You are the dog fetching the stick every time I throw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 You are an ignorant, trolling fool. What's the flak I've given out cherub? I think you need to look in the mirror and stop looking for my every post to fulfil your sad existence. You are the dog fetching the stick every time I throw it. Woof. Still not answered my question. (And I don't need the personal insults) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That's hilarious. Is it really such a major ask? Even tracy admits it's a valid question. The trust has responsibility for the 3% stake and directors seat that I and many others contributed to. If it can't even articulate its membership numbers, what faith is there that it can do anything of any worth? Mock if you like, cos it's easier than wanting to see an effective trust doing something visible and gaining strength and momentum through increased membership Must be a major grudge you are holding there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 The trust has responsibility for the 3% stake and directors seat that I and many others contributed to. If it can't even articulate its membership numbers, what faith is there that it can do anything of any worth? Why are the membership numbers so important to you and what are you planning to do with the information in the unlikely event you ever get it? Let's play a game and cut out the non forthcoming middleman... 1) Pretend you've been told there are 200 members and react accordingly... 2) Pretend you've been told there are 2000 and react accordingly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 3) Why are you so interested in the trust when you appear to have no interest in the football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'll get back to you on these questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I'll get back to you on these questions I'll give him that one, slightly humerous ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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