Latics and England

Widening the net slightly, Germany 1 England 5. I would imagine that any English football fan over the age of fifty who didn't see England win the world cup must have some regrets.

I agree that this idea is pure genius... mainly because it is something that I have been in discussions with the club about for several days. At the moment it is a non-starter for reasons that I would rather not go into at the present time (as I think the potential uproar from divulging what the sticking points are might derail the whole process). I am hoping to have further discussions with Alan and the Chief safety officer next week to see if anything can be sorted.

Ipswich to get promotion Liverpool at Anfield, 1st game in top flight Blackpool away the year we took over Bloomfield Road Genoa away in the Anglo Italian Cup

What have your favourite five games that you have attended been for the period covering the whole of last season and the first half of this. No reasons are needed, just a list of 5 games. Here are mine to start us off. This season Everton (a) Leeds (a) Tranmere (a) Millwall (a) Last season Scunthorpe (a)

There's a blast from the past... Norman the Barlows coach driver. What a miserable barsteward, but he was the one Barlows driver who could actually find a football ground. Whenever there was more than one coach going, you'd always head for Norman's, knowing that you'd see kick off. The same couldn't be said of the others. Ignoring th obvious Wembley and QPR journeys, I think some depressing ones that spring to mind are: Grimsby (5-0 and about ten degrees below in the League Cup) Spurs (5-0 - Gerrard had a mare) Port Vale (Every bloody time) Reading (won 3-1 in the FA Cup but then some Southern get put the window through right next to me - it was freezing all the way back to Hilton Park where we changed coach) Tranmere (Drew 2-2 from two up. They scored dodgy goal in injury time... cheered up when we got back though as we did the Gerry's 5-1 in Munich)

I must admit, I'm quite shocked by this. I certainly can't remember the club failing to run any type of coach before. I'm sure that you will find someone who's driving who'll be kind enough to give you a lift. November 2005? Were you under the influence of alcohol in Geneva by any chance?

Chris Makin was in France for 366 days! Porter completely screwed over not just ourselves but Bury as well. I don't believe that he genuinely wanted to move up to Scotland but he will have received some serious money for doing it. I have no doubt that he, and his agent, will be on a percentage of any sell on fee that Motherwell receive. At the end of the day it was upto him and he made his decision. It would be nice to think that after what has happened at Motherwell recently, he will have had the opportunity to look at himself and realise that there is more to life than chasing an extra few quid and possibly realise that he has a lot to be grateful for (in no small part down to the faith shown in himself by Bury and Oldham). For us, however, it is time to move on. That part of our history has gone. Let's concentrate on ensuring that we hang on to the latest crop of promising youngsters or at least get fair compensation if they are destined for bigger things.

It would appear that there is a repeated line which appears like poor song writing but I agree with Beardy, his version is what I've always sung. I guess it is possible, though unlikely of course, that the lyricist could have been some p*ssed up Latics fan in a pub, rather than a professional songwriter.

Can we please get a win tomorrow and move above our bin dipping friends before we start laughing at them too heartily? It must be depressing being a Hoof FC fan at the moment but at least they must be cheered up a bit each time "The General" posts

I think we all know that they are not the words, but this is a family website and so the real words in full would not be appropriate. Alehouse Landlady Money was spent Custom like yours I can get any day Brothel Big Mama weapon was bent Suck any day Toilet Head tendant Last penny I'd spent **** in the corner and just walked away And then we go with tradition and finish on: "I'll go home to me parents, confess what I've done, and I'll ask them to pardon their prodigal son. And when they've caressed me as oft times before then I never will play the wild rover no more."

I can think of at least three of us so that'll do me. It used to be said that we had a song about every team in the country but we do tend to be quite restricted in what we sing these days. oafcok put a thread on here just before the Forest gama where people posted their favourite all time Latics songs and then we went through the vast majority of them at the City Ground. Maybe we could try that before games. People can request songs they want to sing the next day. Diego can't play this game though, I've been there when he's walked upto a DJ to hand him a request (or two hour playlist to be more accurate). The guy only got to stop playing them when the strippers came on!!! !!!

It is definitely "No Ney Never" I don't think you can really say it is a Burnley song. I accept that they sing it and I do not know the history enough to say who sung it first but we have always sung it for the seventeen years I've been watching Latics so to me this is one of our traditional songs. I don't know whether Burnley sing all the verses either

Wasn't that the Hartlepool version? I remember the first game I ever went to, walking out of the ground why the fans were singing "Away, away, away, away" when they were at home! I was only a kid, I'd never even heard the word Ole (don't know how to put the accent on)

Fat Sam must be gutted. I'm sure he'll get a nice pay-off but I bet it is nothing compared with the little earner he could have made during the transfer window! I think it would have to now be given to Shearer or we are back in the crazy situation where a new manager is constantly looking over his shoulder. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wor Bobby back in some capacity though, if he is well enough.

The point was that there is some increase but that it is not sufficient to financially justify the decision.

A price reduction does not lead to a marked increase in the number of people who turn up at Boundary Park. We have tried it time and time again. When it was free (Celebration Sunday) it was full. The time we charged a quid, I seem to remember we got about eleven thousand. That's right, even charging £1 we couldn't fill the ground. On a number of occasions we have charged a tenner which has tended to lead to crowds of 8/9 thousand if it is against half decent opposition. I believe that if we charge the usual £18 against Huddersfield, the crowd will be about 10,500 - 4,000 Yorkiers and 6,500 of us. Assuming 1 in 4 are kids, that leads to revenue of about £165k Charge £15 and the crowd might be 11,000, but I doubt it. That gives revenue of under £150k and no better atmosphere. To fill the ground you'd have to go down to a tenner but as already discussed that would not be allowed under FA rules. The revenue from this , if it was allowed would be under £120k assuming the ground was full (10,000 adults @ £10 and 3,500 kids @ £5)

Exile'll be after your blood Multi-threading

Arsenal away please. Not United, please not United. I want to enjoy the day and I'm afraid, I just couldn't enjoy losing to them (and we would)

Yesterday was absolutely amazing, just what football should be all about, but the 'greatest cup result in the club's history'? Not for me. I feel on top of the world but after the win at Bolton in '94, I was on a different planet entirely.

Would that be the dodgy car that means that for all you know, we have only won six away games in a row, mind you, to Diego, 6 and 7 are interchangable aren't they... And number one is Frankie Bunn.....

I can see us two nil down at half time, a couple of thousand glory hunters going home before the second half starts with us coming back to grab a late equaliser from Smalley in the dying minutes. And I guarantee that come Sunday morning, you wouldn't be able to find anyone who would admit to not having been there at the end!

When we signed Hughes, the press reported him to be earning £80k a year, thus approx £1,500 per week. I would guess that based upon this, we won't have anyone on considerably more than this.

A lot of people let themselves down today. The chanting about Ricketts was a disgrace. To then return home to find that elsewhere a player had sadly passed away on the pitch just emphasised the point. Our football club has some fantastic supporters. Our ability to regularly take a thousand plus to away games when clubs with average home attendances of twice ours couldn't dream of that is something about which I am proud. Unfortunately we have some absolute ****holes as well. We have no idea why Michael Ricketts left the club. There have been a large number of rumours but we don't know the truth. We also assume that he will be signing for Walsall next week, but again, we don't know. He could be back here if things don't work out. To me, the chant that summed up these so called fans was the laughable "How many pints did Ricketts have?" midway through the second half. It showed just how much intellect went into their song choices. I can just imagine the conversation that led to that one... "Wotz that song wot people sing about Gregan? It's got the word w*nk in it so let's sing it about Ricketts" I notice that nobody has come on this board and actually defended the "Die" song so presumably nobody from this cross section of supporters got involved in the chanting. I'd love to think that this was the case.

The worst thing about the Gumbs situation was the fact that Wrexham were able to sign two of his compatriats due to different criteria for granting work permits existing in England and Wales! It is nice to know that everyone plays on a level playing field!

I got all but Oldham County. Can't believe I didn't know that. It wasn't even one of those "Oh yeah" moments when he read out the answer, I didn't have a clue.