Dave_Og

He could join that enormous cclub of goalkeepers who have becme successful managers

I hate the loan system with a passion but Latics' use of it this season was abysmal. I think Budtz let in three times as many goals in one game than Ormerod, Byfield, Windass and Kabba scored between them!

We would avoid the nation's quality media saying "told you so"

I'll give you one name; Lewis Smith. Currently banging them in for Bishop's Stortford in Conf South after being releaed from Fulham. Also turning out as a triallist for Gillingham reserves. Morison at Stevenage and Pearson at Burton have come through Stortford in the last couple of seasons; we know what a good striker looks like.

Not really the point was it? Having booed him at every touch after the incident I'm not quite as sure now that it was a s justified as I thought.

Watched a different game I think. Gregan may well have read the game well but he gave the ball away far too many times

Having just seen it on Sky there was certainly more contact than I thought there was at the time

Don't blame the ref too much. Shocking decision for the penalty but what happened in the second half? First half I thought we were excellent and but foor the lack of a goalscorer would have been out of sight. Second half? Never came out of the dressing room. If they can play that well consistently then all would be well but not so much a game of two halves as two completely different games. Is Lomax injured? Hazell sure isn't a right back - he had a mare and even if the pen wasn't it was an accident waiting to happen. I'm thinking of making a comeback as a fat unfit 46 year old as I wouldn't have looked out of place by Gregan.

Anyone know if it's under cover? It's like a biblical flood down here.

I did a few BTB bits and pieces but a little known fact is that it wasn't the first Latics fanzine. I think I'm right to say that title goes to "View From Afar" which was distributed free to OASIS members back around 1990. I still have them somewhere, all starring Dufflecoat Dan's spiritual cousin; Bill Chimney.

Should have been told to walk home and pick up his boots in the morning.

Hmm, striker coach? Joe Royle wasn't bad in his day you know!

If the reports about Belle Vue were right he should have been sacked anyway. Do you think he would have put Joe in a headlock? I'd have paid to see that!

You don't need a hatchet man to clear out players at the end of their contracts

In SAFE days we tried and tried to talk to Moore but never got anywhere. The money the shares cost is irrelevant - what else would it have been spent on? Anything that gives fans representation is good.

Won nothing? Do you still think West Ham won the second division championship??

Played golf with the great man and Sonny Ramadhin. My Dad was hugely jealous! Bert Lister from the football arena

Joe is about the longest relationship in my life. He was my hero when I was 6 and i got my Dad to take me to Old Trafford to watch him score for Everton and knock United out of the FA Cup. First time I have worn a Latics related smile for a decade.

He always hated being called that

I domn't think anyone is surprised; it's just that some things make you stop and think for a momeet

Interesting you should say that. There's lots of reasons why my visits are infrequent these days but one of them is a hangover freom the SAFE days which was a depressing experience on lots of levels.

A good friend of mine who watched far more games than I did had a moment of epiphany at a game towards of the end of the second relegation. After am awful home performance and defeat we were waiting for a cab back to Piccadilly outside the Clayton Arms. A group of players came past laughing and joking, apparently without a care in the world. At that moment he said he realised that the club meant nothing to the players and that all the emotion he had invested over the years had been wasted. He's never beeen to a game since; I wonder how many others reached a similar conclusion this week.

Well they've already lost my respect for being out on the lash at such a crucial stage of the season. Embarrassing.

Well they've already lost my respect for being out on the lash at such a crucial stage of the season. Embarrassing.