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First win in six to arrest the slide down the league. Little else comes to mind and certainly nowt worth stating.

I have been open with my assessment of the Bunn appointment and have not changed my mind much, other than to be content a reasonable start to the season - that is not a judgement on the style or level of performance, but squarely the points total - but directly questioning Bunn's suitability 13 games into a season seems to me to contribute to the dire running of our town's football club. I do not see how removing Bunn from the touchline would benefit us as this fails to deal with the real problems with the club. Should we win the game in hand, we would rise to 11th place. Now, prior to the sacking of Wellens I considered a promotion challenge to be the natural expectation, however Lemsagam's amateurish approach, the lacklustre appointment of Bunn and quality of the subsequent player signings - both owner and manager - left me expecting not much more than mid-table. I think we are where we both ought and deserve to be. Reality, ladies and gentleman, doesn't half stick in the craw.

Do you know why ideas like this fail to gather momentum? It's because of thick-headed people like you. If it isn't to the way you see it, it is wrong, naive or ludicrous. A few have mentioned squabbles and factions and you'd be a figurehead for them, spouting your ignorance. Now, putting aside your lacklustre contribution, a few have welcomed the idea and I do too. Are we realistically going to become a supporter-owned club in the next decade? I very much doubt it, but that is not to say we cannot increase our influence. Even to have a 20-30% stake in the club would give the supporters a voice we believe has been hoarse for far too long. It would allow us access to every bit of detail and may have brought about the end of Simon Corney's era a few years before the club was sold to this pretender. I'd like us to go another way and strive for some individualism; the game - both on and off field - has become bland and banal and I'd like us to have supporters involved with every aspect of the club and to encourage the wider town to get involved, from catering to advertising local businesses. These things will never occur until a hardcore group is willing to start with the basics. Organise a raw committee - just to explore ideas - and go from there. Just exclude Kowenicki from any involvement. That is my only factionalism.

Assuming I'm reading all of the stuff you're referring to, where are the racist remarks?

Because we're entitled to judge a player who has been about it and has barely played the game since he came through at City? I wish the lad, like all of the other new faces, all the very best. Am I expecting much? No. And it's fine to say that, you know?

The irony is that you're holding average footballers some earning a bit over the average UK salary to a different standard to your common man and woman and considering you ultimately help pay those wages, it is in your interest to know if the club is being handled correctly and tells me you are interested when this sort of stuff comes out (as you should be). Demanding people shut their mouths, restricting information and controlling criticism. There is a regime in't Far East you'd revel in.

And you're the one to determine what anybody, anywhere can say on social media? Who gave you that right? I'm curious - would you support a player-lead strike over the failure to pay wages that aren't much higher than the average man and woman in Oldham? Considering a lot of people's lives are connected to the football, from office staff, players right through to the supporters we ought to know when things aren't working. If you're not eager to know if the club is being poorly ran it says more about you then owt else.

Shut up.

Agree with this entirely. This division has little quality; those that go up tend to have dependable players. There is room for brave football, but putting together a squad of foreign-born players, most of whom have not played in England, has yet to work. A brief assessment of League Two champions shows this. This is a good, Bunn-sought signing.

At some point, people, you need to face reality otherwise you'll awake and we'll be playing football in the non-league. If anybody ever brings you down for encouraging our teams then they're worth rebutting, but where is your critique?

Aye, you're right. I do apologise. I'm just taken aback by what we're willing to accept just because a bloke who is supposed to be worth summat comes on the scene.

Do you walk around with your eyes closed? I asked questions mate. Despite having my views, you usually ask questions and submit a conclusion at the end. if you read again and engage that brain of yours, you'd see I didn't do that. Yes, I believe we could turn into the very model that never works in the lower leagues, but I haven't said for certain we have. If anybody wants to compare what I've said to the premier league, well, of course they're welcome, but I call you morons for doing so. This is League Two. Ability, well-funded support structures and intense interest is lacking. We're that desperate for success, we're willing to lap up the last 12 month without an ounce of scrutiny. The first signing under Bunn is a French player from the doldrums and eyebrows remain in place. Incredible.

It is somewhat telling that the first player to be signed under Bunn is a French lad from an obscure club in France and it is obvious Bunn is allowing Lesmagam to control what happens on the pitch. To ask that supporters give this lad a chance is fine by me, but I ask those supporters to use their own imagination and answer the following question: 1. How many of the foreign-born players that have been signed in the last 12 months can speak English? 2. Is it not likely that these players will inevitably form a clique, one which will fester and ultimately drain the notion of a team? In my view, this is partly what caused last season to descend into a disaster. 3. How many League Two champions in recent years have possessed as many foreign-born, non-English speaking players as are employed by our club? I am afraid that models like this have been tried and invariably fail.

You might want to review some of my posts concerning Wellens. I hold him responsible for relegation and was disgusted by his reaction at full-time at Northampton and his failure to address the supporters until his statement via the LMA. Your next point is a contradiction. You're calling me out for saying there is no evidence Wellens was parroting to the press, yet then state there are rumours. That makes no sense mate. There are too many people on this forum obsessed with this, yet nobody has provided any evidence and I think it's best you get over it and look to this season. I'd be consistent and lambast Wellens if it was true, but there is a difference between wanting summat to be true so much that you hold to it regardless or you await to be shown evidence. I saw Wellens lose control of his players, provide no leadership, fail to motivate. I then watched him leave the field at full-time at Northampton seconds after entering it. I called for his immediate sacking. My charges against Lemsagam can be verified on the bloody club website for Christ's sake! Bunn and Rhodes are questionable in the sense that they have zero experience in management and both in their mid-50s. Facts. Appreciate them.

As a trade union representative, I don't enter a meeting and slay the member. The LMA is the football staff's union and they most probably wrote that for him. As for Bunn and Rhodes, I admire both of them and will be shouting them on all the way, but do you know find it strange that both are in their mid-50s and haven't an ounce of managerial experience? You'd have to search the history books for summat similar.

I don't begrudge Wellens the opportunity to offer his interpretation of events and It effectively draws the whole sorry thing to an evens conclusion. There is not a scintilla of evidence that Wellens was whispering to the press and although his deserves his share of criticism for his management that led to relegation, such baseless accusations are rather unfair. To repeat what a few others have said, we now have to face what is in front of us. We have to contend with an unknown individual who, if the reports in the newspapers are to be believed (I've yet to hear or read a convincing rebuttal to the details), has resorted to the brutal trigger in his attempt to establish full control of a club devoid of morale and strategic planning. In my view, a convincing case for successive relegations can be made; we don't know how Lemsagam plans to sensibly finance a return to division three football, he is given to dictation, he is using the squad as a route way for poor players from the continent, he's appointed two very questionable individuals who are all smiles and lacking experience in the dugout and there is nobody left in the club to tell him to stop. I speak as I see things and thus far it doesn't look promising.

Such profanities are no longer welcome it seems.

I'm waiting for summat to spark a bit of excitement.

Mansfield and Lincoln away on Tuesday, Notts County and Lincoln at home on a Tuesday. Nice way of ruining 1,000-plus away followings. I couldn't be less enthused by all this.

I can't help thinking this looks summat to be seen at a school reunion.

What insult?

I bet you're the office gimp, running round being super positive whilst the workforce comprehend the redundancy letters. Take a day off, read what I said and stop being the town's worst contradiction. Cry baby.

What a fantastically idiotic thing to say. If you allow emotion, instead of reason and logic, to dictate your response to any situation in life you will be stung quite regular. It is ludicrous and incredibly ignorant to expect supporters - some of whom have experienced bitter disappointed for nearly 30 years - to bounce along like a giddy three-year old. If you haven't by now questioned the club's conduct in most areas of its operation, using your money to do so, then that is your problem. Now, I know you don't like owt to be shown to the light of question but I'm going to do so regardless. The appointment of Frankie Bunn is somewhat disappointing. I wish the man - a good man and former player - all the best and I will attend games wanting him to succeed, but it is news fit to invoke puzzlement. Firstly, why has it taken Bunn so long to move into management? At 55, that goes against the grain of most managers taking their first job. Secondly, why has he been given a one-year contract? It does not demonstrate confidence and commitment. There is not a doubt in my mind that Bunn will be sacked after 12-15 games if we are not winning because Lemsagam clearly possesses a knack for making decisions bordering on the insane . It is understandable to ask for stability but it is painful to read so many accepting a season of nothingness. As an aside, for those using the hideous phrase "manage expectations" raise your own and avoid it. I don't know what makes me angrier: reading that on numerous occasions or having to click into the League Two section on the BBC website to discover the Bunn news.

Knowing the pillock running the place. it's quite possible Bunn is on a fortune.

True, but there is a monumental difference between getting linked, more or less always by redtops and bookies, and getting an interview for the job. My point is only last year did we finally get confirmation Scholes was interested. I take your point, though.