Matt

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Equality really is a false perception in this case - if we were all equal, everybody would fork out some greenbacks to help OWTB from haemmoraging cash. Contrary to popular belief, OWTB is in the red and has been since it's inception. Having said that, I'm quite happy to fund it - I think OWTB is a success that has borne other successes. Anyways, the chatroom cover debate; The procedure for opening the chatroom is a bloody fiddly one. Bearing this in mind, the mod team are partially selected on their IT prowess. The operating procedure itself is equally difficult. Moderation as only a part of it for example; we have to stand by our moderating decisions, we are only as good as how we moderate. It is not fair on the community or the chatroom helper to give them that kind of empowerment, it will not function in tandem with OWTB's policy/administration set up. They can't run with the hare and hunt with the hounds at the same time either... In short: fair moderation and IT skills are the two main prerequisites of being a moderator at any level. Add locale and availability to the selection process as well, you can appreciate getting cover is mighty difficult. But say we manage to fill the post; we enlist the help of another for the sole reason of opening up the chatroom - what do we do if they cannot open it, for whatever reason - too busy, can't handle the pressure, can't be bothered, and so-on - do we hire another? We have to draw a line under it somewhere, or we become a victim of our policy and it becomes unmanageable. As a side note - and has no relevance to the post of chatroom supervision, I'd like to add that OWTB is for the fans, and it does have it's groups within that, however the cliques on this board only survive because the minority speak of it. And I will not make them a martyr to their disruptive cause. As a finale - thanks to everyone who uses OWTB! Nearly 800 members and counting - better supported than most other OAFC messageboards - and a great alternative to ISZ - as ISZ is to us. With this in mind we try our damnedest to make the experience as good as possible - OWTB does not purposefully go out of its way to forget it's members, or to even annoy them. Therefore, we will look at how to overcome any potential problems in the future (chatroom or otherwise) with our current resources, but in the meantime I hope everyone continues to enjoy our services! Thanks, Matt.

This topic is closed until I prepare a statement. Thanks, Matt.

Bob, we can only do our best - this is not our day job (unfortunately) for any of us. We do try to find the time, however other life commitments take top priority - I for one have not been around since Friday afternoon. OWTB is privately funded (and costs a small fortune, i may add) and it's mod team are all volunteers, who operate on here for the love of it. If there is no mod about to open the chatroom, I for one will not be jumping up and down asking the questions. I suppose I'm posting this to defend the lads (mods) really, because nobody else gives them the recognition they so richly deserve.

I've got a few colleagues from work to join in - United fans believe it or not...

Here were my initial thoughts on a new flag: As you can see, this puts some distance between me and comic sans....

No, that was all Mark. I'm a more Verdana/Plakette sort of guy...

And I get no credit for coming up with the design... Bigfin, I have no recollection of that shirt - do you still have it? I didn't use that as reference for the OASIS flag though, it would be interesting to have a look at one...

Put me down John please, thanks mate...

Viking FK Stavanger (Gunnar's a coach! uh-oh - Uwe Rosler is head coach...)

I'm sure I've seen St.Helens legends Flat Back Four somewhere, anyway here they are... I've got that Psalm 23 single n'all, decent... And who can forget the Thatto Heath Song - "MY MUMS A PROSTITUTE, NA NA-NA, NA-NAAA!" lol

Here you go Bob...

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OAFC Protest Video Video 2 Video 3 3 great videos are just what you need get the adrenalin going! Bang up the volume and put yer scarf on - get down to the civic hall today!

Safe journey everybody - we'll see you all there!

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http://owtb.blip.tv/

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cRP-Up7s2JM

This should have consisted of mental processes of discernment, analysis and evaluation to include all possible processes - in order to form a solid judgment, reconciling evidence with common sense. You cannot simply believe. This part of his argument is not reinforced with evidence, it is just conjecture. An assumption. He's believing again too - it's not even reasonable belief. Mayfield Housing, Castleton, Rochdale. Go see, http://www.mayfieldcastleton.co.uk/apartments.aspx - there would/could have been a compramise here - as other people have said - to tweak the outline plan after a green light.

I'm in. That pretty much plants the OWTB flag behind the effort - as if it was ever in question! Good work Simon - and everybody else!

Bit stuck at work at the moment, had a bit of an idea - has anybody emailed the local radio stations, BBC Mcr, Rev etc?