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Latics no longer have a Performance Analysis Unit since they got rid of most of the team as a cost cutting measure - including the unpaid interns. Maybe the Senior steward is undertaking two roles? Joking apart, Tommy is probably sitting elsewhere to get a different perspective on the game. That said, I do know that Shez isn’t big on team analysis/ scouting the opposition and I suspect that will become obvious as the season wears on.

Alfie McAlmont spotted last night in a Club in Leeds by two of my sons. They were incapable of speaking by that stage though so didn’t talk to him. The journey home this morning was fun

Everyone is missing the really big issue which is that we haven’t scored at BP in the three matches since they were switched back on.

Beware of the dead cat everybody.

Meanwhile, the conversation was about Mike Petrasso. Prat

Highly unlikely as sell-ons are usually based on the profit made on the next transfer. The fee paid by Burnley (£1m up front and up to max £2.5m with incentives) is likely to be less than what Brighton paid Charlton (around £2m). Maybe we could get a percentage of the percentage Charlton receive (if they inserted a sell-on clause) but it’s unlikely that there’s any profit in the latest deal. If we did benefit, then presumably a percentage of our cut would then go to the Administrators of Bury.

I hope to meet you one day in the Main Stand Pete and as always, you make valid points. The answer to Singe was really to highlight that the truth can often be more powerful than hyperbole and there are valid factors for the massive drop in sales. For personal reasons, I’ll be travelling back to Oldham more often in the coming months and as my boys are now young men, one of the best ways I get to spend fun and quality time with them is watching football. It’s always a bit of a trek for us so we tend to make a weekend of it and had some memorable trips to away games last season. I never saw us win, witnessed precious few Latics goals but I’m still smiling when remembering days out at Forest Green, Crewe, Leyton Orient etc. and some epic drunken nights as part of the package in Swindon, Birmingham, Manchester and London. Because of my views regarding AL, I chose to boycott home games last year but as it’s highly unlikely we will get admitted to away grounds this season (and after drunkenly agreeing to buy a ST for middle son’s birthday), I’ve bought (a family of) four for 2020/ 21. I may never get to use them and probably won’t get to all the games but for me, it’s the only way I’ll get to watch Latics live this season as capacity is bound to be significantly restricted. I’m lucky as I am able to make that choice but I know that many aren’t. Some will criticise and a few may call me a scab. At the end of the day though, this is about family for me. Latics will be here long after AL has departed and while I would really love to see him starved out, I think his actions show that he’s prepared to haemorrhage money rather than cut his losses. Anyway, I want to spend time with family and hopefully, have a few more weekends in Manchester. It wasn’t an easy decision but I can live with it and am looking forward to the first game that we are allowed to attend.

Seen on Twitter that you’re having a mare of a day mate. Hope your train troubles get resolved. It should be totally obvious though the reason why ST sales are way down at Latics compared to the majority of other Clubs. Anyone buying a ST for any team is taking a massive leap of faith at the moment. All things being equal, you would see similar take up throughout the leagues. Stockport are owned by a local businessman who is looking to invest. Carlisle are owned by a consortium of local businessmen. I don’t know the ins and outs but I’d guess that fans at those clubs are prepared to “help out” in buying STs that may not get used this Season. Compare that to Latics (and a few others) where the owners are very unpopular. Most of us want the AL regime out of our Club. So why would ST sales be anything like previous or comparable to better run Clubs? I agree that the ST sales are a disaster for AL but the reason why is totally “understandable” and requires no spin.

The Administrator will be obliged to remove as much cost/ liquidate as many assets as possible regardless of which division Wigan will be in. They were seriously considering not appealing the points deduction as it will cost £400k apparently.

From the Stade Lavaillois message board:- Merde!!! Un autre garçon Anglais

Mo Sylla has gone

* and is the cousin of Steven Gerrard.

Ngoo is the one who turned up for us.

Were you his love or the plus one Dave?

I was pointing out to JTM that it wasn’t the worst performance of the season let alone the worst performance in (5) years. In my opinion. I wasn’t arguing about a ranking of shitness if you read it in context.

In my opinion, it was the third worst performance this season so if you ignore the Mickey Mouse Cup game against Liverpool kids, I could argue it was the best of the season so far. Opinions eh?

Sorry but I take exception to your first sentence. I was talking in general terms and didn’t ask everyone in the stand what their motives or actions were so saying my points are not true is simply wrong. We agree on virtually everything else though. Moving on, I’d say good on you for the words you had with Jamie Stott. Nothing should have been aimed at him but the mob were baying at all the players regardless of how they had played or indeed, whether they had played at all. I wasn’t aware of who the club representatives who came over. Fair enough for them consoling and protecting the players but they should never have reacted like that to the crowd. The more I think of this, the more annoyed I get that the whole scenario wasn’t nipped in the bud by someone more senior at the club whether that be the Lemsagams, his Security team, manager, coaching staff, captain or senior players. They should never have been allowed to approach the crowd. You are totally right and the Club is rotten. We need change but there are plenty of threads for debating that.

Probably best we leave it there then and agree to disagree.

I guess you weren’t there then if you think it was 30 seconds? My post probably gives too much weight to booing because that’s what I was discussing. Booing, name calling, abusive language, physical abuse, stewards getting involved, fisticuffs. Lots more too so it really was a hectic 30 seconds! I never said that the booing wasn’t warranted. I booed myself. You seem to have dismissed all the rest of what was going on though as high jinks and mild histrionics. Grown men? I’ll take your word for it. Thanks for the opinion though

Thanks. That would make sense. I read the original post too quickly and thought something had happened “today” but it was perfectly punctuated and I missed the comma I was genuinely interested and am glad I asked nicely but either way, apologies @Fanny Adams I’m getting schooled today and my reading comprehension is a bit shit. I’m probably still pissed from yesterday in fairness so I’m glad we came home by train from Leeds this morning

Just read the GMP Tweet properly so thanks for pointing that out. Sounds like Metty’s suggested punishment may be required!

Sounds like he is getting some tough love which is exactly what is needed to ensure he doesn’t repeat this, or a similar offence. Good luck to you both and I really hope that his career can recover.

Forgive the new post when I could have put this in the Bradford thread but I am really surprised that the 5-10 minute period after the final whistle yesterday hasn’t been mentioned (unless I’ve missed it) on here. Apparently it has been a hot topic (piss boil) on Twitter according to my lads but that place is way too toxic for me these days. The support from Latics fans in the first half was brilliant. Loads of singing, some good natured piss taking of certain Spanish players and constant ribbing of the non-existent home support. It changed in the second half unsurprisingly and at 3-0 down, I remember thinking that I hoped the players wouldn’t come over to us at the end although if they hadn’t, we would never have heard the end of it I’m sure! For those who weren’t there, the majority of fans booed at the final whistle. For the first time in nearly 50 years, I was one of them. At Carlisle last season, I left just before the final whistle though to be fair. Despite this, every player came over with boos and cat-calls ringing in their ears. The crowd was toxic but none of them turned back. There was no applause at all but lots of hand gesturing and particularly vitriolic comments (mainly warranted). Got to be honest, if that had been me, I’d have thought “fuck you” and headed for the showers. But they came. Right to the pitch edge. Some even came to talk to fans although I think something happened with Azankpo leading to the Stewards getting involved and pulling him away from the crowd. It looked like some were trying to abduct him! The looks on the players faces and that fact that they had the balls to show a bit of defiance spoke volumes. The “People Leader” in me thought good. Hopefully you now truly understand what this Club means to those who travel across the Country to watch the team week in and week out. Maybe next time you will collectively make less mistakes, play better and at least score a fucking goal. Despite the gin (or maybe because of it), my sleep was disturbed last night mainly because I’m a father and some of those young men are the same age as my sons. The look on the faces of Wilson, Azankpo, Fage and a few others was one that I won’t forget. Enraged fans were snarling at them, calling them wankers and telling them that they’re not fit to wear the shirt. In some cases I agree, but some of those players did well yesterday (particularly Fage) and some of those getting abuse were non-playing substitutes like Jamie Stott. I say that because the whole lot of them were getting dog’s abuse. Nobody was off limits. This post is already two long but a couple of thoughts before I finish. Whatever we think about the shit show that our Club has become, consider how the players must feel about being led by a puppet manager, with influences from the owner plus his brother and the very likely sanction of being ‘banished to the Youth Team” (or worse) should they express an opinion. Finally, while I applaud the players for showing some defiance yesterday and coming over, a true leader would have said, “right lads, go halfway, clap and then head to the showers”. Clarke or Wheater or any true leader in the team would have made sure that happened. Or a real manager if we had one. To his credit, Maouche did apparently try to engage with the baying mob at the front by gesturing for them to “cam down”. Of course this had the opposite affect as it’s the equivalent of the “you ok hun?” posts on here. Anyway, I don’t expect everyone to agree with my opinion but would be interested to hear what others thought after yesterday seeing how the reaction after the game has barely been mentioned.

I was listening to him and that Steven guy slagging off the Trust in the beer “tent” area at the FGR game. Their whole reason for the conversation seemed to be about how Darren had given fans the email addresses of certain club officials. Oblivious to the fact that those are in the public domain anyway. Good to see that he was still giving the team directions even at 3 nil down yesterday. Perhaps he will be named as the new puppet manager when Banide walks?

I’m struggling to understand what any club officials from Latics could have done to be perceived as treating him badly seeing as he was there as a guest of Bradford? There would probably only have been Barry there who knew Duxbury from his time at Latics and regardless of what we some may think of Bazza, I’m sure he was a fan of Dux when he played for and led by example, one of the better teams in our recent history. He got a great reaction from Latics fans at half time so it can’t be that. Perhaps he was just playing to the home crowd in hospitality when he said that after the game and I imagine his comments drew some applause and cheers? Genuinely interested to know if he shared the real reason behind the dig if you can. Cheers