Crusoe

Not sure why you feel the need to resort to insults. I challenged the conclusions you were drawing - or asking others to draw - nothing more. Yes, I drew a silly parallel - and acknowledged that it was. Am I happy with the signing? Ambivalent at best. But I'm not going to start worrying about cliques and Lemsagam calling the shots based on the first signing. If the next few are of the same calibre, sure, let's get concerned. Given how little some of last season's overseas contingent played he doesn't seem to be bullying managers into team selections, nor does he seem reluctant to let them go. Even if he is using the club as a shop window for overseas players (it's a possibility, sure) it's in his own interest to have the best players and the highest league position, to get the most attention and highest prices. Give it a week or two and then I'll worry if I have to.

One of the annual intake of scholars. The name of that website is misleading unfortunately.

See other thread - was part of the annual intake of scholars in April.

He signed on with the scholars in April. The club reported it. Presume he's another one dropped by a Premier club. I wouldn't trust the name of that website. They list 19 of our youth players, at least 2 of whom have long since left the club. It's just a long list of players at different clubs.

First post in the thread updated with Graham signing on loan.

He's a central defender according to the OS. Odd choice. Clarke, Gerrard, Edmundson, Stott, Hamer can all play there. Presume one or more is going as this doesn't seem like a position that needs strengthening as a priority. At least (contrary to my first thoughts) he sounds genuinely promising.

1. I don't know. Do you? Or just jumping to conclusions? 2. Why is a clique inevitable? They're not from the same country or league. And even if some do hang around together, why does that necessarily mean festering and draining "the notion of a team"? Again, jumping to conclusions. 3. Not sure what the relevance is. Not many clubs to compare against, not sure yet what our squad or starting XI will look like this season. Too early to judge whether there's a meaningful comparison. And it's arguably nonsensical to suggest that nationality (or mixtures of them) is linked to success. Taken to a silly extreme, someone could argue that the logic would mean clubs with multinational squads will get fare worse than all-British squads. Better let the Premier League clubs know, they'll be shitting themselves.

(It was either that or Stranger Branger)

So Branger is his middle name? I like it.

Every time I read his name I get a Queen eaworm. Ish Miller! No! We will not let you go! Let him go!

Out of interest, does everyone think Baxter will play midfield or up front? I know he's more of a midfielder, but I remember him playing (well) as a striker. And god knows we could use a goalscorer.

First post updated with McEleney leaving.

And updated again with Davies to Mansfield - two year contract, undisclosed fee.

First post updated with Duffus loan to Waterford. Their manager's said he's playing for them this weekend and they're working on a loan for the rest of the season (think it ends in October). Reckon that counts as confirmed.

Heh. I got about 3 or 4 of them. Had to look the others up. Back that year when we linked up with MTK to take on #hungarianlads. We got through a lot of players back then. Remember McKerr? Ojapah? No, me neither.

I would hope that given that kind of mouthing off he's not going to be here next season. Getting off on the right foot with the fans and all that.

I don't think a consistent kit is mandatory for club identity. Clubs change owners, managers, players, kits, grounds, divisions, badges, even occasionally names. For me the name is the most important, then maybe ground and badge. But I don't feel a particular allegiance to any kit - maybe at a push I prefer a blue home and red away shirt, but even that's a hangover from the colours we played in when I started supporting the club. If it had been twenty years earlier those colours may have meant nothing for me. At a more practical level I think the number of clubs that stick rigidly to the same design are few and far between (I'm sure there are some, but I'd bet not most), if only because it gives them a chance to sell merchandising. A consistent kit makes it harder to flog to the customers, sorry, fans.

https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2018/june/29062018-kit-reveal/ Still really like these.

Norbert Csiki Patrik Tischler David Kalnoki-Kis Atila Beszterczei Ferenc Fodor Szabolcs Csorba Tamas Floszmann

Fuss over nothing. I'm ambivalent about him and fully expect him to go, but this is not worth getting wound up over.

I like that home shirt a LOT. Really nice. Away shirt is a bit meh but not bad as such.

Probably, a few of them managed to do that on the pitch last season.

"I thought I were great!" Going to have that line from Rita, Sue & Bob Too stuck in my head for the rest of the day now.

Theo Vassell to Port Vale.

£10m to Cardiff. Wow.