Ackey Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 You cannot deny that the performances of teams like Blackburn, who lost 4-1 at home to Coventry, and Everton, who lost 1-0 to Oldham at Goodison Park, were massively disappointing for the competition. WHAT!? Team's like Latics beating teams like Everton is what makes the FA Cup the greatest Club competition in the world!! Idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 what a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 WHAT!? Team's like Latics beating teams like Everton is what makes the FA Cup the greatest Club competition in the world!! Idiot! Have you got a link to the quote? Where is it from? If it's true he's an even more massively deluded fool than I first thought. For these people, like outside the Premiership simply doesn't exist. I wonder if he ever keeps a track on his old club; Alloa's results? I doubt it somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 he lost the plot when Alex won the league with kids.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 He's like an Opera snob, turning his nose up at anything he considers inferior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witty Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 WHAT!? Team's like Latics beating teams like Everton is what makes the FA Cup the greatest Club competition in the world!! Idiot! Not trying to stick up for Hansen but I needed to read the quote a couple of times to decide exactly what he meant. I think he is saying that the performances that Blackburn and Everton were dissapointing, which is arguably true, and not the results themselves. Does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Not trying to stick up for Hansen but I needed to read the quote a couple of times to decide exactly what he meant. I think he is saying that the performances that Blackburn and Everton were dissapointing, which is arguably true, and not the results themselves. Does that make sense? Yes it does... He is saying the way Blackburn and Everton approached the games, aka "its only the fourth round"... was dissapointing....he is suggesting the FA cup isnt as important to them these days..... But at the same time saying the best thing about the cup is big upsets.... Perfect world...Everton played a FULL (aka Cahill etc) strength side and Oldham beat them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 so why not say that the performances of oldham and coventry were great for the cup? he could be an oldham fan with his penchant for moaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 so why not say that the performances of oldham and coventry were great for the cup? he could be an oldham fan with his penchant for moaning. Then again... Look at us lot moaning about his comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 "You cannot deny that the performances of teams like Blackburn, who lost 4-1 at home to Coventry, and Everton, who lost 1-0 to Oldham at Goodison Park, were massively disappointing for the competition." So he's saying bigger teams being knocked out by smaller teams is massively disappointing for the competition. If that is the case why not just put the 'big' four together in the semis and not bother with the rest of the competition. So much for giant killing and the 'magic' of the cup. Stupid comment made obviously without thinking about what he is saying through, idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Yes it does... He is saying the way Blackburn and Everton approached the games, aka "its only the fourth round"... was dissapointing....he is suggesting the FA cup isnt as important to them these days..... But at the same time saying the best thing about the cup is big upsets.... Perfect world...Everton played a FULL (aka Cahill etc) strength side and Oldham beat them..... But the reality is worse: A 3/4 strength Everton lost to a half strength Oldham, with 2 kids with no senior experience, 1 with 3 games, and players that have not played since Sept and all season on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witty Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 For these people, like outside the Premiership simply doesn't exist. Talking to a new guy at work the other day who's a big United fan and season ticket holder. Him: who's the manager at your place. Me: John Sheridan. Him: who? Me: John Sheridan. Him: never heard of him. Oh dear oh dear. Think of a League cup final circa 1990. Thats the difference with lower league supporters over Premier league supporters. I think we see the whole scope of proffessional football, from the Premier league due its mass coverage to watching 3rd tier football every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 But the reality is worse: A 3/4 strength Everton lost to a half strength Oldham, with 2 kids with no senior experience, 1 with 3 games, and players that have not played since Sept and all season on the bench. I know Isnt it sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Have you got a link to the quote? Where is it from? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7175706.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Talking to a new guy at work the other day who's a big United fan and season ticket holder. Him: who's the manager at your place. Me: John Sheridan. Him: who? Me: John Sheridan. Him: never heard of him. Oh dear oh dear. Think of a League cup final circa 1990. If he doesn't know who John Sheridan is then he can't be much of a football fan or much of a Manure fan ST or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 WHAT!? Team's like Latics beating teams like Everton is what makes the FA Cup the greatest Club competition in the world!! Idiot! I think you've misquoted him massively Ackey. The full article is here. He is actually on about the bigger clubs disrespecting the competition by playing weakened sides if you read it all, as he goes on to say how encouraging it is there's lots of 'lesser' teams left in it. It obviously goes to show that it doesn't weaken it that much, the magic is still very much there! That said, it really must be pointed out that our team was a lot more weakened than Everton's was given who we had playing at Leeds a few days earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 "You cannot deny that the performances of teams like Blackburn, who lost 4-1 at home to Coventry, and Everton, who lost 1-0 to Oldham at Goodison Park, were massively disappointing for the competition." So he's saying bigger teams being knocked out by smaller teams is massively disappointing for the competition. If that is the case why not just put the 'big' four together in the semis and not bother with the rest of the competition. So much for giant killing and the 'magic' of the cup. Stupid comment made obviously without thinking about what he is saying through, idiot. Picking our comment there really. I think the pivotal part of this is: "Nobody outside of those four clubs have won the competition since Everton in 1995, so it would be fantastic for the competition if we had an outsider winning it. " Therefore it is a shame Everton/Blackburn have thrown it* as there is no one that can break open the quadopoly. *I know they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Its just like reading the Sun reading these "qoutes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemma06 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 He probably means it's left one of the "big 4" to go on and win the competition whereas had Everton/Blackburn won they would have had chance to go on and possibly win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 I stand by my Sun-esq quotation! He's on a rant about the magic of the cup being lost, and whist I know what he means about teams playing "weaker" (We'll not get into that argument) sides against lower level opposition he's completly missed the point that lower level teams winning against the top 10 is what the FA cup has always been about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Picking our comment there really. I think the pivotal part of this is: "Nobody outside of those four clubs have won the competition since Everton in 1995, so it would be fantastic for the competition if we had an outsider winning it. " Therefore it is a shame Everton/Blackburn have thrown it* as there is no one that can break open the quadopoly. *I know they didn't. I was only responding to the quote Ackey posted, I hadn't seen the full article. However, after reading the full article it does put that statement in a different context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 (edited) I absolutely despise Alan Hansen, he's a stuck it know it all who thinks if it's not Premiership then it's not football. HOWEVER I don't think he is disrespecting us there more than saying that maybe some Premiership teams aren't taking it seriously anymore. Edited January 8, 2008 by Bring Back Pukka Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I stand by my Sun-esq quotation! He's on a rant about the magic of the cup being lost, and whist I know what he means about teams playing "weaker" (We'll not get into that argument) sides against lower level opposition he's completly missed the point that lower level teams winning against the top 10 is what the FA cup has always been about! I think there is a big issue with the Prem teams not treating the FA cup serious enough... How many prem teams are through to the fourth round ? I have never known so many upsets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I think there is a big issue with the Prem teams not treating the FA cup serious enough... How many prem teams are through to the fourth round ? I have never known so many upsets... This is an issue that's been around for a good while now. After all, it's starkly evident that only the top 4 have been winning the competition each year. In the 70's, 80's and early 90's there was a whole host of unfashionable teams winning it, along with the usual suspects. Now you can bet your house on either Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal winning, possibly even Liverpool too. The media or constantly shutting the door when the horse has bolted. As soon as the Premier league was announced football as a tradition was in trouble. Even Man United pulling out of it in 1999 (disgraceful IMO) was a screaming sign of what's to come yet everyone is only bleating about it now. As for upsets and romance, there will be plenty of that, perhaps more often but the supposed big 4 will continue to win it, perhaps to be punctuated by the odd unfashionable club on rare occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 (edited) Your wrong really....it wasnt the setup of the prem that changed things as far as the eventual winners goes....you have to go into the 70's before you start seeing a real mix of teams...Totenham / Everton won it alot in the early 80's but they were one of the biggest sides back then.... Only in 87 (Conventry) , 88 Wimbledon did unfashionable teams win it in my eyes... 1980 West Ham United 1981 Tottenham Hotspur 1982 Tottenham Hotspur 1983 Manchester United 1984 Everton 1985 Manchester United 1986 Liverpool 1987 Coventry City 1988 Wimbledon 1989 Liverpool 1990 Manchester United 1991 Tottenham Hotspur 1992 Liverpool 1993 Arsenal 1994 Manchester United 1995 Everton 1996 Manchester United 1997 Chelsea 1998 Arsenal 1999 Manchester United 2000 Chelsea 2001 Liverpool 2002 Arsenal 2003 Arsenal 2004 Manchester United 2005 Arsenal Arsenal 2006 Liverpool Liverpool 2007 Chelsea Edited January 8, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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