OldhamSheridan Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 After a pretty bad game for Brilliant is it time to bring in untried novice Josh Ollerenshaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 After a pretty bad game for Brilliant is it time to bring in untried novice Josh Ollerenshaw? Brill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Brill. People seem to agree, but I feel it was a question needing asking. I can't say I've seen much of Josh, but when I have he's hardly impressed (he's not been terrible or anything). I'm not sure who I'd go with, Brill has been very poor, and with Josh it is surely sink or swim time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUNGFOO Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 id rather a kid make mistakes than a full time pro that is dire, isnt this how other players get there chance by players not performing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 id rather a kid make mistakes than a full time pro that is dire, isnt this how other players get there chance by players not performing? If Brill doesn't improve by January, I think we should definitely bring Fleming back (if he's playing ok), and cancel Brills contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 and cancel Brills contract. Obviously we can't just do that, like with any job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 If Brill doesn't improve by January, I think we should definitely bring Fleming back (if he's playing ok), and cancel Brills contract. Goram and Gorton were thrown in at the deep end, Gerrard came straight from the yoofs to the Prem. Give Josh a run, may just be the kick up the arse Brill needs. All keepers make mistakes we all accept that. It's clear lack of ability and incompetence that pisses us off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I think when Fleming is back in January, he will be Number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I think when Fleming is back in January, he will be Number 1. I get the feeling Greg won't be in too big a rush to come back here, despite having 18 months left on his contract. The management team basically binned him in favour of a guy who had been playing at a lower level. Wouldn't blame him if he forced a permanent move. Penney's one big dropped bollock and it will cost us all season. Ronnie persevered with Day for half a season, just think if Grant had been here all year we may have made the Play Offs. Half a season of Brill and the chuckle brothers and we could be firmly entrenched in the :censored:! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) I get the feeling Greg won't be in too big a rush to come back here, despite having 18 months left on his contract. The management team basically binned him in favour of a guy who had been playing at a lower level. Wouldn't blame him if he forced a permanent move. Penney's one big dropped bollock and it will cost us all season. Ronnie persevered with Day for half a season, just think if Grant had been here all year we may have made the Play Offs. Half a season of Brill and the chuckle brothers and we could be firmly entrenched in the :censored:! I'm sure I read Greg also wanted to go because he was homesick though? Edited September 11, 2009 by ste1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th2003 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 There was a season when Les Pogliacomi was the best thing since sliced bread...and then a season when he was as popular as a marmite sandwich. Confidence is a massive thing as a goalie (I should know as I have worn the gauntlets for many a year) and any keeper, no matter what his ability is, can have a bad run. Goram, Rhodes, Hallworth, Gerrard, Kelly (repeat ad infinitum) have had bad spells...but we simply have to give the guy a chance and he will hopefully come through. Rome was not built in a day (I went there recently and some of the older bits are falling down), and in the same way we cannot expect instant success. Goalies also feed off the confidence of their defence and, to be fair, Gregan and Hazell have been as good a double act as Abbott and Costello or Laurel and Hardy recently. The boy is wearing the Athletic badge on his chest at the end of the day. I didn't agree with people booing Richard Butcher and I don't agree with booing someone who has made mistakes, but not been given the opportunity to fully prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Echoing th2003's comments...I've said it numerous times on here since Gregan re-signing and Hazells pre-season (and new season gaffes) that I'll judge Brill once we sort the defence out...I'm going to be waiting quite a while for that to happen sadly. Brill for me at The Gas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCMIKE Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 After a pretty bad game for Brilliant is it time to bring in untried novice Josh Ollerenshaw? 'Game'?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I get the feeling Greg won't be in too big a rush to come back here, despite having 18 months left on his contract. The management team basically binned him in favour of a guy who had been playing at a lower level. Wouldn't blame him if he forced a permanent move. Penney's one big dropped bollock and it will cost us all season. Ronnie persevered with Day for half a season, just think if Grant had been here all year we may have made the Play Offs. Half a season of Brill and the chuckle brothers and we could be firmly entrenched in the :censored:! I'd give my right arm for a keeper like Grant, now. He was quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 It's gotta be Deano. I know some players come in totally untried and command that spot, and perform brilliantly... usually sold after 10 games... however bringing in a young 'keeper with the defenders we have could backfire bigtime. He hasn't been too bad on the road, and I think we all know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 What happened to the Hungarian guy? I really want us to just to take him out the firing line as much as anythingelse a spell in the reserves just to get some confidence back might be enough but right now he is getting no support from the defence infront of him or the crowd either and it can't be any good for the guy because he must becoming teriffied of making mistakes at the moment because everytime he does he gets crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Echoing th2003's comments...I've said it numerous times on here since Gregan re-signing and Hazells pre-season (and new season gaffes) that I'll judge Brill once we sort the defence out...I'm going to be waiting quite a while for that to happen sadly. Brill for me at The Gas... I'll judge the defence when we sort the goalkeeper out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Dowds Green Shirt Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I'll judge the defence when we sort the goalkeeper out. Brill had a good game today, did nothing wrong and had no chance with the goal (Thanks Rubes - again.) Leave the keeper alone. He will come good. Cheers, Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Brill had a good game today, did nothing wrong and had no chance with the goal (Thanks Rubes - again.) Leave the keeper alone. He will come good. Cheers, Harry Not having a go at the keeper Harry, just trying to balance the arguement somewhat. We play as a team and lose as a team, people are constantly having ago at the defence all the time (which is fair enough if we are seeing constant individual errors). If we were playing better further up the field we would not be under constant and sustained pressure at the back. We can't score a goal at the moment, which doesn't help when you are trying to win a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Dowds Green Shirt Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Not having a go at the keeper Harry, just trying to balance the arguement somewhat. We play as a team and lose as a team, people are constantly having ago at the defence all the time (which is fair enough if we are seeing constant individual errors). If we were playing better further up the field we would not be under constant and sustained pressure at the back. We can't score a goal at the moment, which doesn't help when you are trying to win a game. Agreed. Cheers, Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Brill had a good game today, did nothing wrong and had no chance with the goal (Thanks Rubes - again.) Leave the keeper alone. He will come good. Cheers, Harry I agree with that. Granted, he hasn't had the best of starts, but hopefully he'll come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Can I just say that this poll shows even better than other recent polls just how many complete :censored:ing numbnuts there are on here. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I've only just voted.....and it looks like I've drawn Brill level!! Ideally I'd have neither of them. Let's spend some money on a loanee and let Brill recover/come good in the reserves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Its hard for young keepers to get their breaks because its such a high risk area, if he makes a mistake then theres a goal, I would bring him on after getting 3-0 up or something, so theres not as much pressure on him yet he can get first team experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Can I just say that this poll shows even better than other recent polls just how many complete :censored:ing numbnuts there are on here. Ta. why? its personal preference? I dont know how you could be a numbnut no matter which option in the poll you choose, wether you think its right to stick with an experienced keeper or give a young lad a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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