eyres_28 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 No. Might be unrealistic, but I want promotion next year - to achieve that we need a better calibre of right back than him. Somebody who gets forward more. he's dying to get forward at every opportunity .... ludicrous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 he's dying to get forward at every opportunity .... ludicrous post. He probably is dying to get forward, but he isn't allowed. On Tuesday night when we were chasing the game and he had been put at left back, he played a ball to Taylor and started bombing forward to support him. He took a look over to the bench and immediately dropped back. I think the problem with our fullbacks not overlapping is not the fullbacks fault, I really do think they are told to stay back by the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I'm fairly sure that we only gave him a two year deal when we signed him for United, which means that his contract would be over in the summer. I've always rated him and thought it's been a shame that he's never been played in his favoured central midfield position. Now he's had a fairly decent run in the team, albeit at RB, what do most people think - good enough to secure a new deal? No brainer - he is a tidy player and is getting better as the season progresses - definitely worth a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 So who do we build our team round next season? To me that is a bit of a worry. If Penney is still here, I think he can tweak and build, and I'd give him till Nov. GK Brill. MArmite. People either rate or hate. RB Lee CB Gregan Obviosuly player of the season foreveryone, but would next season be a season too far him? A la Ledge Mr Pointy? Maybe time for another Captain, based in midfield? CB Hazell Our soft goals have been a concern for several seasons CM Stephens CM Purdie ? Unkown RW Taylor ? Big drop in form this season CF Abbott. Subs EAves Millar Black A couple of the other seem to be wory blooding next season. Not much else. SO we need some key signings IMHO. I liked the look of Guy yesterday and would love to have him here permanently. Hazell has been poor recently - very much a confidence player - would not want him to be first choice cb next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 He probably is dying to get forward, but he isn't allowed. On Tuesday night when we were chasing the game and he had been put at left back, he played a ball to Taylor and started bombing forward to support him. He took a look over to the bench and immediately dropped back. I think the problem with our fullbacks not overlapping is not the fullbacks fault, I really do think they are told to stay back by the manager. Where did he play at Wycombe away before Xmas, was he on the right wing, I seem to remember him hogging the right wing making some good runs, something I would like to see him doing more of, by Penney telling him not to make the runs down the wing we are removing a chance to attack, disappointing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Isn't it funny, this poll would have had a completely different look about it, had it been asked before christmas. Glad to finally see Lee given a run of games. He's an intelligent footballer, who can run, pass and tackle - qualities which make the basics of many a good lower league footballer, yet so many lack at least 1 of those aforementioned criteria. His best position? Not sure! Probably the reason why he hasn't really had many 1st team games in his career. Certainly looks comfortable enough at full back for me and given the right circumstances, could prove dangerous going forward. For me, he's not an out and out centre midfielder, although again, he does have the qualities (though not totally sure on energy levels yet?) to make a decent midfielder. A wide midfielder - not for me. But well done DP - injury dictating probably - on giving this guy a run in the team (Shez never would!) On that note, praise for giving Stephens and Millar a run also - brave, but good choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel M Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Hes only playing him coz every other bugger got injured including his loan signing. One bad game and penny will probably axe him. Be interesting if kieran will wanna stay if penny stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Hes only playing him coz every other bugger got injured including his loan signing. One bad game and penny will probably axe him. Be interesting if kieran will wanna stay if penny stays. good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Difficult one for me this. Firstly I don't think he is a midfield player in a million years, too lightweight and too small. He has done alright at RB and is certainly better than Lomax (but thats not saying much) although he was skinned alive twice at Hartlepool and again at home to Norwich which all led to goals being conceded. He has however looked better at RB in recent games. I'd probably offer him another year on reduced terms as cover at RB for next season and hope to bring someone better in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwhite Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Lee has been one of our best players recently.He can be quite skillfull on the ball unlike some of his teamates. I'd keep him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardy Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Id like us make a move for Ritchie Jones in the summer, as Keiran and Jones played in the same youth set up at Utd, and i think would play really well together. Jones isnt happy at Hartlepool, and potentially a very decent player at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 (edited) As I see ourselves (budgetwise) fighting to stay up next season or fighting for playoffs at League Two level (should we go down, not that I think we will) then Lee is definitely one to keep. As for higher end League One...we don't know how he'd perform. Possibly never will with the way the club is being run now. Edited April 5, 2010 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyres_28 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 He probably is dying to get forward, but he isn't allowed. On Tuesday night when we were chasing the game and he had been put at left back, he played a ball to Taylor and started bombing forward to support him. He took a look over to the bench and immediately dropped back. I think the problem with our fullbacks not overlapping is not the fullbacks fault, I really do think they are told to stay back by the manager. that was what i was getting at. the post b4 said he isnt attacking enough. Penneys use of fullbacks this season has been atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyres_28 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Difficult one for me this. Firstly I don't think he is a midfield player in a million years, too lightweight and too small. He has done alright at RB and is certainly better than Lomax (but thats not saying much) although he was skinned alive twice at Hartlepool and again at home to Norwich which all led to goals being conceded. He has however looked better at RB in recent games. I'd probably offer him another year on reduced terms as cover at RB for next season and hope to bring someone better in. wasnt "skinned" against norwich ... he was caught to far upfield as the ball was slid down the inside left position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 No. Might be unrealistic, but I want promotion next year - to achieve that we need a better calibre of right back than him. Somebody who gets forward more. Where from? Granted I've seen very little of his rejuvenation over the past couple of months. Based on what I saw earlier this season, I'd definitely keep him on if we're in League Two, but I'd be unsure about keeping him in League One. As I say, I haven't seen much of him lately - he was a very promising signing and I'd be as happy as anyone if he's now justifying himself at League One level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo123 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 would deffo offer a new contract & play him in the centre of midfield, which is probably his most natural position rather than that waste of space "Worthington" could even end up being our own little "Wes Hoolahan" with a bit of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 wasnt "skinned" against norwich ... he was caught to far upfield as the ball was slid down the inside left position. A matter of opinion and interpretation, I'll stick with skinned as I thought he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Yes, he's shown himself to be a useful utility player, who at worst can fill in and reduce the need for loan signings, and at best can perform decently in two different positions. And he still has time to develop. I'd offer him another year. What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I think he's one of our mid to higher earners, I wouldn't keep him as that, maybe on reduced terms. He still doesn't convince me he fancies being a lower league footballer. I wouldnt imagine hes earning half of what the main senior players are due to the fact both Sheridan and Penney didnt want him near the first team until recently and were/are always referring to him as a kid with potential who needs to get his head down and work hard. I hardly think he will be earning big bucks. Hes been 1 of our better players this season and should be given a deal definately. I dont like what some Latics fans think, some genuinely dont seem to know a right lot about football. First Neal Eardley gets abuse every week and we make a small fortune on him and now Kieran Lee is deemed not good enough. We are hardly going to sign Glen Johnson, and their are a lot of other positions which require attention before that right back slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I wouldnt imagine hes earning half of what the main senior players are due to the fact both Sheridan and Penney didnt want him near the first team until recently and were/are always referring to him as a kid with potential who needs to get his head down and work hard. I hardly think he will be earning big bucks. Hes been 1 of our better players this season and should be given a deal definately. I dont like what some Latics fans think, some genuinely dont seem to know a right lot about football. First Neal Eardley gets abuse every week and we make a small fortune on him and now Kieran Lee is deemed not good enough. We are hardly going to sign Glen Johnson, and their are a lot of other positions which require attention before that right back slot Oh no we didn't - we got dry bummed in the transfer market again. Worth at least double what we got for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Oh no we didn't - we got dry bummed in the transfer market again. Worth at least double what we got for him... Well still we made 200k on a player deemed useless by a majority of the Latics faithful. I also disagree with the Worthington post, hes been injured to much to get a good run. Beginning of season when he was fit he was one of our key players. I think people should be looking at Whittaker and Taylor for poor form and lack of effort tbh. I dont know why but people seem to be scared of saying Taylor has been atrocious this season and was and still is far to overrated. If we made double Eardleys fee on Taylor this summer I would be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 He has been one of the few bright sparks in what has been truly a dreadful season. Definately offer him another contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Well still we made 200k on a player We didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I wouldnt imagine hes earning half of what the main senior players are due to the fact both Sheridan and Penney didnt want him near the first team until recently and were/are always referring to him as a kid with potential who needs to get his head down and work hard. I hardly think he will be earning big bucks. Hes been 1 of our better players this season and should be given a deal definately. I dont like what some Latics fans think, some genuinely dont seem to know a right lot about football. First Neal Eardley gets abuse every week and we make a small fortune on him and now Kieran Lee is deemed not good enough. We are hardly going to sign Glen Johnson, and their are a lot of other positions which require attention before that right back slot I'm a better right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Red card? Snatch that contract back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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