youngen Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 If we dont win on Saturday, it will be only 1 win from 10 in League and Cup! If it was anyone else his head would be on the chopping board, so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? Genuine question, not reeling people in because I actually quite like Dickov in charge even if the results arent quite there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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razza699 Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 If we dont win on Saturday, it will be only 1 win from 10 in League and Cup! If it was anyone else his head would be on the chopping board, so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? Genuine question, not reeling people in because I actually quite like Dickov in charge even if the results arent quite there yet. Passion drive and hunger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 fishing time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takemeanywhere Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 If we dont win on Saturday, it will be only 1 win from 10 in League and Cup! If it was anyone else his head would be on the chopping board, so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? Genuine question, not reeling people in because I actually quite like Dickov in charge even if the results arent quite there yet. Excellent. I would never have bet on it coming this early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lookers_Carl Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? 1) Am pretty sure the budget Dickov has is smaller than the budget Penney has 2) Am definitely sure the budget Dickov has is ALOT smaller than the budget Talbot and Moore had 3) Dickov is a young manager learning his trade, Penney Moore and Talbot were all 'established' managers 4) Personal opinion, but Dickov is probably more positive than the three of them put together 5) Dickov is still lumbered with most of Penney's crap. Once we can get them of the wage book and let him build his own team, then its time to judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) . Edited October 8, 2010 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 If we dont win on Saturday, it will be only 1 win from 10 in League and Cup! If it was anyone else his head would be on the chopping board, so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? Genuine question, not reeling people in because I actually quite like Dickov in charge even if the results arent quite there yet. Genuine answer - Because we are playing better football than we have played since the start of Shezza's reign (although we are not scoring at the moment, which is more down to lack of budget), we are in the top half of the league (when we were all expecting relegation) and we have only lost twice................. now take your medication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 Genuine answer - Because we are playing better football than we have played since the start of Shezza's reign (although we are not scoring at the moment, which is more down to lack of budget), we are in the top half of the league (when we were all expecting relegation) and we have only lost twice................. now take your medication! The sort of answer I was looking for, Im not fishing or indeed am definately not requesting Dickov out. I was merely pointing out the fact that based on results many of our recent managers wouldnt have been given as long, and there would definately have been some moaning and groaning around BP, especially after failing to beat both Bristol Rovers and Leyton Orient at home, games we as fans would expect to win comfortably. I think Dickov has been superb up to yet in every other department than producing that ability to grind out wins. He comes across in interviews very well and if he sees something he likes/dislikes he acts upon it. However my only criticism is his inexperience ( which is obvious as its his first management job). Things like (up to yet) not being able to stop us conceding from set pieces. We have Gerry Taggart as assistant surely he must be able to put his work, experience and effort into correcting this. Also things like how we were fairly comfortably 1-0 ahead on Saturday and looked like scoring again, when he decided to make changes. I feel ultimately this cost us the chance of killing Leyton Orient off. If he can correct these little bits of tactical naivity then we look like a team who will be very hard to beat and can also give a few teams a bit of a drubbing. However I feel with this season behind him as our boss, I can definately see signs of him becoming a top manager, even potentially being poached from us by a bigger club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Bravo, thread of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 The sort of answer I was looking for, Im not fishing or indeed am definately not requesting Dickov out. I was merely pointing out the fact that based on results many of our recent managers wouldnt have been given as long, and there would definately have been some moaning and groaning around BP, especially after failing to beat both Bristol Rovers and Leyton Orient at home, games we as fans would expect to win comfortably. I think Dickov has been superb up to yet in every other department than producing that ability to grind out wins. He comes across in interviews very well and if he sees something he likes/dislikes he acts upon it. However my only criticism is his inexperience ( which is obvious as its his first management job). Things like (up to yet) not being able to stop us conceding from set pieces. We have Gerry Taggart as assistant surely he must be able to put his work, experience and effort into correcting this. Also things like how we were fairly comfortably 1-0 ahead on Saturday and looked like scoring again, when he decided to make changes. I feel ultimately this cost us the chance of killing Leyton Orient off. If he can correct these little bits of tactical naivity then we look like a team who will be very hard to beat and can also give a few teams a bit of a drubbing. However I feel with this season behind him as our boss, I can definately see signs of him becoming a top manager, even potentially being poached from us by a bigger club. This I agree with 100%, we need to start winning a few games or we'll get dragged into a similar scrap like we endured last season, no matter how well we are playing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I think the "dickov out" title didn't help the responses you got. If it was "this year vs last year - a comparison" then maybe it wouldn't have been taken the way it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_oafc Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Answer: Shutup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SholverBlue Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 What uncle Sam said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 If we dont win on Saturday, it will be only 1 win from 10 in League and Cup! If it was anyone else his head would be on the chopping board, so what makes us as fans see Dickov as different to Penney, Moore or Talbot? Genuine question, not reeling people in because I actually quite like Dickov in charge even if the results arent quite there yet. We've won two out off our last ten games league and cup? Last 10 games: Leyton Orient: 1-1 Sheff Wed 0-0 Brighton 1-2 Bournemouth 2-1 W P'boro 2-5 Brizzle R 1-1 Shrewsbury 1-0 Yeovil 0-0 Charlton 1-1 Notts County 3-0 W Well thats two wins from last ten including cup.. Check your facts next time maybe..? Thats 11 points in 9 games in the LEAGUE, 10 league games is 14 points.. In Penneys first 10 games league games last season we had 15 points.. Not much difference.. one point difference.. in the next 10 league games after that we got 6 points.. we have already scored 13 goals this season.. after 10 games under DP we had 10 goals.. 13 goals this season is already 1/3 of last seasons total goal tally.. so 10 games in, -1 point difference but 3 goals more this season.. not to bad for a new manager compared to an established manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 The sort of answer I was looking for, Im not fishing or indeed am definately not requesting Dickov out... What you said, but I don't think inexperience is necessarily that big a problem. PD got the subs wrong last weekend and he can take only so much of the blame for some of our defending. He doesn't strike me as the kind of bloke who makes the same mistake twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 What you said, but I don't think inexperience is necessarily that big a problem. PD got the subs wrong last weekend and he can take only so much of the blame for some of our defending. He doesn't strike me as the kind of bloke who makes the same mistake twice. Stephen's missed a ball in our box which led to their goal. I wouldn't put that down to the management. The only other thing we could have done with doing is putting a few more in at the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 We've won two out off our last ten games league and cup? Last 10 games: Leyton Orient: 1-1 Sheff Wed 0-0 Brighton 1-2 Bournemouth 2-1 W P'boro 2-5 Brizzle R 1-1 Shrewsbury 1-0 Yeovil 0-0 Charlton 1-1 Notts County 3-0 W Well thats two wins from last ten including cup.. Check your facts next time maybe..? Thats 11 points in 9 games in the LEAGUE, 10 league games is 14 points.. In Penneys first 10 games league games last season we had 15 points.. Not much difference.. one point difference.. in the next 10 league games after that we got 6 points.. we have already scored 13 goals this season.. after 10 games under DP we had 10 goals.. 13 goals this season is already 1/3 of last seasons total goal tally.. so 10 games in, -1 point difference but 3 goals more this season.. not to bad for a new manager compared to an established manager? I think youll find quite specifically, I stated if we dont win on SATURDAY it will be 1 win in 10. Check the post properly next time maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I think youll find quite specifically, I stated if we dont win on SATURDAY it will be 1 win in 10. Check the post properly next time maybe? In the league it's 2 from 9.. 3 from 10 in league.. no need to really count the JPT is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakerT Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Oh Dear! Not related to one of the Ratners by any chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 In the league it's 2 from 9.. 3 from 10 in league.. no need to really count the JPT is there? Keep digging. My post says if we dont win on Saturday we have won 1 in 10 league and cup games. JPT we played a near enough full strength 11, and it is still a competitive game. I admire you trying to make the facts look better, but trying to make my original stats and FACTS look wrong, you wont win that battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 We've won two out off our last ten games league and cup? Last 10 games: Leyton Orient: 1-1 Sheff Wed 0-0 Brighton 1-2 Bournemouth 2-1 W P'boro 2-5 Brizzle R 1-1 Shrewsbury 1-0 Yeovil 0-0 Charlton 1-1 Notts County 3-0 W Well thats two wins from last ten including cup.. Check your facts next time maybe..? Thats 11 points in 9 games in the LEAGUE, 10 league games is 14 points.. In Penneys first 10 games league games last season we had 15 points.. Not much difference.. one point difference.. in the next 10 league games after that we got 6 points.. we have already scored 13 goals this season.. after 10 games under DP we had 10 goals.. 13 goals this season is already 1/3 of last seasons total goal tally.. so 10 games in, -1 point difference but 3 goals more this season.. not to bad for a new manager compared to an established manager? I think you need to read his post again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 In the league it's 2 from 9.. 3 from 10 in league.. no need to really count the JPT is there? Tell that to the people who paid to go and watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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