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My chosen specialism is VAT, if the club became a none profit making charity which only took donations rather than sold tickets, there is potential for the new stand/ground to not have any VAT added on the construction costs.

 

My background's in Construction and Civils. Have lots of experience in bean-counting, materials-planning and estimating for projects worth a few quid up to a couple of million. 12 years worth of experience…I can dust down my set-square, slide-rule, magnifying glass, calculator and phone, still got a hard hat and high vis jacket somewhere...

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As ritchie82 correctly pointed out yesterda, the move has always been about more than building four stands and a football pitch. What faclities would be in the new stand hat would bring in revenue 7 days a week? Can boundary park really accomodate this? It was my understanding that at Boundary Park we were restricted with what we could do re extra facilities.

 

I would still say no, as

 

1) We don't just need one new stand we need three, and the RRE desperately needs some TLC. Building a new stand alone will not make us sustainable

 

2) We also need the facilities which will bring in the extra money to keep us sustainable.

 

 

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I can make the tea and bacon sandwiches for everyone on site.

I think I have the most important job.

Does anyone on here actually do a proper job! Maybe that's why we have enough time to post on here!

 

So we haven't got anyone who has actually built anything yet, but I feel we are gettng closer.

Maybe run an advert in the Chron?

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As ritchie82 correctly pointed out yesterda, the move has always been about more than building four stands and a football pitch. What faclities would be in the new stand hat would bring in revenue 7 days a week? Can boundary park really accomodate this? It was my understanding that at Boundary Park we were restricted with what we could do re extra facilities.

Look Carl get with the programmme. :grin:

We'll just knock a few bits otgether and it will be fine.

Take a sharp intake of breath and say it'' cost ya.

The companies operating the 84G pitches, The Ritz, a megaBowl can worry about the detail

It'll be fine, stop worryin'

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I replaced my fence panels the other week... Maybe a right :censored: job of it... Got a bloke coming fixing it next week so I ain't any use to be honest...

I have known plenty of property guys that hand you over a cheap shoddy job that costs a fortune in ongoing maitenance costs and you have to get someone to fix properly

You are hired as recruit number 0002.

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Whoever you use to build a stand must have a decent level of PI insurance which rules out a good 80% of small enterprises. LaingO'Rouke built City's ground and did the quadrants at Uniteds stadium or Gb building solutions who did Chesterfield stadium would be perfect. The problem we have is where the money comes from!

 

In my mind I would approach the Architect who did Doncaster or Chesterfield and use their plans fro the new stadium. All the working drawings and "Design" is complete (already built!!!!) Find a suitable plot that the stadium model fits on and hey presto! EASY!!!! Ahhhh If only it was.............................................. :disappointed:

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You say specialised labour is required to build small-to-medium sized spectator stands? Fair enough if so, I'm surprised. I thought only the design team and odd specialised subby would be required over and above typical tradesmen with diverse but unextraordinary experience, as I said?

 

Well it really depends on what we're talking about here. If it's something like Blackpool had for 5 years or so then yes, you could just get Alan Hardy to put it up. If we're talking something substantial you couldn't just give a concept drawing to your average builder and say 'build this'. They could give it a go but it'd be based on experience over anything else which could lead to problems. Lets say you have reinforced concrete pillars at the back of the stand (similar I think to the Chaddy has although i've not been in there for ages so can't really remember). You'd be almost certain to get some form of problem, over reinforced, under reinforced, placement issues, poor quality covercrete (If this had been designed at all). Then youve got the concrete mix proportions.

 

Someone else has mentioned the idea of using plans from Doncaster's or Chesterfield's stadium to recycle. This is pretty common really. Specialised stadium builders often use the same plans with minor changes to reduce costs and time scale so i'd expect we would be looking to do the same if we moved or stayed at BP.

 

On the subject of do we have the expertise to do this ourselves. haven't we already established that 'Harry Dowds Green Shirt' is owner of a considerably sized local contractor (I don't live in the area so have no idea how big that company is by teh way)?

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I have known plenty of property guys that hand you over a cheap shoddy job that costs a fortune in ongoing maitenance costs and you have to get someone to fix properly

You are hired as recruit number 0002.

 

Haha, i did almost mention this as well. The trade off between cost, time and performance/quality. It really is worth spending more and increasing the time scale to get the build right first time. When it comes to the maintenance you often find lessons haven't been learnt either and a quick solution is preferred to something that will solve the problem more long term.

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