Lukers1 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 He wasnt in the house cause he was a nice person, that homeowner if the details are correct should be released without charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 He wasnt in the house cause he was a nice person, that homeowner if the details are correct should be released without charge. sky news people should have the right to protect their property and their lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I've not read the article. But I think I'll take a "Daily Mail" position on it until somebody convinces me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 But I think I'll take a "Daily Mail" position on it until somebody convinces me otherwise. That it was a doley scrounging foreigner trying to steal another flat screen TV for their mansion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 That it was a doley scrounging foreigner trying to steal another flat screen TV for their mansion? You're probably right. I was thinking more about about the right to perform fatal surgery on the genitalia, other body parts or organs should an unwelcome intruder be discovered in your home. But I'm too busy laughing at the Torres miss to worry about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I'm not quite sure I'd take the full stance they have of chasing the bloke down the street and hacking his head off, but I have no problem with defending property or person to the full extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 But I think I'll take a "Daily Mail" position on it until somebody convinces me otherwise. I'm not quite sure I'd take the full stance they have of chasing the bloke down the street and hacking his head off, but I have no problem with defending property or person to the full extent. I agree. Personally I wouldn't go as far as hanging anyone who's a foreigner and hasn't got a job, maybe those with a job too just to be on the safe side - however I get your point, I'd do the same if my property was broken into and my family was under threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Just to add, this incident is the third intruder to be stabbed to death in the space of three months. All Greater Manchester Police cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Even as a pinko I fully endorse the Daily Mail stance on this whatever it is, if you break in to someone's house then you must be prepared for the consequences. The householder isn't going to merrily help you fill your van with booty, they are going to stop you using whatever means available. Unless this bloke has gone over the top with about 10000000 separate stab wounds then he should be let off and the deceased burglar still has to go through the court case, none of this "'e were a good lad but just fell with a bad crowd" and instant martyrdom. I also don't have a problem if they land his accomplice with some trumped up attempted murder or manslaughter case too for not talking the bloke out of doing the burglary in the first place. I really do not have any sympathy for the deceased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The key part is about the threat at the time of the brutal slaying. If they are doing a runner, then they are thieves, whilst they are going about their crime they are fair game for whatever they get. John Locke had this one nailed down in the 17th century (although his line on slavery raises eyebrows at modern dinner parties). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Even as a pinko I fully endorse the Daily Mail stance on this whatever it is, if you break in to someone's house then you must be prepared for the consequences. The householder isn't going to merrily help you fill your van with booty, they are going to stop you using whatever means available. Unless this bloke has gone over the top with about 10000000 separate stab wounds then he should be let off and the deceased burglar still has to go through the court case, none of this "'e were a good lad but just fell with a bad crowd" and instant martyrdom. I also don't have a problem if they land his accomplice with some trumped up attempted murder or manslaughter case too for not talking the bloke out of doing the burglary in the first place. I really do not have any sympathy for the deceased. Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outoftheblue Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Nobody deserves to be stabbed to death..... ....Oh, apart from thieving scumbags like Raymond Jacob. :censored: him, his family, and all his acquaintances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Apparently the burgler's family have been laying flowers at the home in Bramhall. Something quite wrong in that if you ask me. Edited September 19, 2011 by jimsleftfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Apparently the burgler's family have been laying flowers at the home in Bramhall. Something quite wrong in that if you ask me. I would chuck them in the green bin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I'd take them into the house and put them in a nice vase on the windowsill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The OS we are used to would have left them were they were, having fertilised them in full view of the relatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 My analogy, If I was in the business of punching bears in the kidneys, I might expect to at some point contract bear AIDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 My analogy, If I was in the business of punching bears in the kidneys, I might expect to at some point contract bear AIDS. I'd expect you to be mauled to death long before you got aids! As for the person at the centre of this "tragedy" - http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1459286_revealed-the-lifetime-of-crime-of-knifed-burglar-killed-in-bramhall-home-raid Got a list of previous as long as your arm. RIP in peace sweet prince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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