Schlieb Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think latics would put more past these than England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 England are :censored:e, I reckon me and another few oldies on here would give San Marino a game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlieb Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 England are :censored:e, I reckon me and another few oldies on here would give San Marino a game! I'd run rings round em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 They held their own and did well not to concede for 35 minutes. Southgate is an utter :censored: though - 'They shouldn't even be here, it's a waste of time' - surely they deserve a chance to go out there and play at grounds like Wembley etc. 5-0 was admirable for them. ITV should have showed a degree of respect towards them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 They held their own and did well not to concede for 35 minutes. Southgate is an utter :censored: though - 'They shouldn't even be here, it's a waste of time' - surely they deserve a chance to go out there and play at grounds like Wembley etc. 5-0 was admirable for them. ITV should have showed a degree of respect towards them. Agreed, coverage was a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 They held their own and did well not to concede for 35 minutes. Southgate is an utter :censored: though - 'They shouldn't even be here, it's a waste of time' - surely they deserve a chance to go out there and play at grounds like Wembley etc. 5-0 was admirable for them. ITV should have showed a degree of respect towards them. Southgate said they should have to go through pre-qualifying or some :censored: like that! San Marino did their job a lot better than England did theirs.. Townsend was awful too.. he's always against the underdog, when England and the FACup go back to BBC football will be better for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If we let them go into these pre qualifying games along with Wales and Scotland it mean England would have a season with few competitive games and without the smaller teams we proberly struggle even more against the big boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 They held their own and did well not to concede for 35 minutes. Southgate is an utter :censored: though - 'They shouldn't even be here, it's a waste of time' - surely they deserve a chance to go out there and play at grounds like Wembley etc. 5-0 was admirable for them. ITV should have showed a degree of respect towards them. He's spot on, they shouldn't be there. It's an absolute waste of a fixture. They should be playing in the Italian football league system like Monaco in France, not clogging up the international fixture list. The very fact that people are saying things such as '5-0 was admirable for them' about an international side shows how much of a joke it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He's spot on, they shouldn't be there. It's an absolute waste of a fixture. They should be playing in the Italian football league system like Monaco in France, not clogging up the international fixture list. The very fact that people are saying things such as '5-0 was admirable for them' about an international side shows how much of a joke it is. We may as well stop having internationals then. Or maybe break Brazil up into compartments so that Peru have a fair chance against them? Granted this lot are the extreme of it, but would football be richer if these games didn't exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's essentially the same as Saddleworth gaining independence and getting its own international side. They should play under this football association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NF-Board. At least then they won't be humiliated every single game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's essentially the same as Saddleworth gaining independence and getting its own international side. They should play under this football association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NF-Board. At least then they won't be humiliated every single game. Would you support the home nations being merged into one team as well? As for Saddleworth, I don't think any rigth thinking man knows what to do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I recall Sri Lanka being the whipping boys of international cricket. The TCCB (now the ECB) were very reluctant to entertain the newcomers at Lords or tour there. 30 years or so on and they are a genuine force and have been for some time. Looking down your nose at these smaller nations is the wrong approach. Engage them, involve them, play them. Who would have thought the likes of Cameroon or Senegal could win World Cup matches against "bigger" nations? One thing Blatter has got right is his strategy of encouraging the sport worldwide, not just focusing on Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keep_the_faith Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Why do countries like england and france deserve to be in a qualifying tournament any more than san marino or andorra. That 8 second goal in 93 was probably the equivalent of wigan athletic winning the champions league for a country the size of san marino. Everyones entitled to a dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) He's spot on, they shouldn't be there. It's an absolute waste of a fixture. They should be playing in the Italian football league system like Monaco in France, not clogging up the international fixture list. The very fact that people are saying things such as '5-0 was admirable for them' about an international side shows how much of a joke it is. They're an independent sovereign republic, why should they play in a domestic league? It's England really who should have less rights as an international side. It's qualifying, not the finals and no side (bar the hosts) should have any more right to start further in the process than any other. Edited October 13, 2012 by jsslatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 It's qualifying, not the finals and no side (bar the hosts) should have any more right to start further in the process than any other. Except that they do in North America, Central America and the Caribbean. As well as in Asia and Africa. Yes they do have the right to be in the competition but getting spanked in 8 games out of 10 and nearly always loosing the other 2 doesn't do them much good. They'd be much better off playing against the likes of Litchenstein and Andorra on a regular basis (with the prize of playing in the main qualification at stake). That would give them a truly competitive set of games and would improve them. You don't ask Man United to play FC United twice in a season to qualify for the Champions League but it's OK to ask England to play San Marino twice to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) It's essentially the same as Saddleworth gaining independence and getting its own international side. They should play under this football association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NF-Board. At least then they won't be humiliated every single game. As West Riding ReUnited ? Edited October 13, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 they're an international side, so they're trying to qualify for an international tournament. it really shows the pompous and stuck up nature of england fans when people think they shouldn't be playing. england's starting line up must have cost about £100million and be worth a fair bit more... what can San Marino's value be? We're Oldham fans, shouldn't we be in favour of the underdog, seeing as we are often one ourselves? and will be this afternoon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Southgate said they should have to go through pre-qualifying or some :censored: like that! San Marino did their job a lot better than England did theirs.. Townsend was awful too.. he's always against the underdog, when England and the FACup go back to BBC football will be better for it Didn't watch the game but Townsend's always an embarrassment. Can't remember which game it was during the 2006 World Cup when Ruud Gullitt was talking really intelligently and eloquently (in his third language) about the problems Spain have historically had with team spirit, because there are such strong regional identities in Spain, so players tend to identify themselves as Catalan or Basque etc rather than as Spanish, and Townsend interrupted him with "yeah, they want their heads banging together". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 dont the scottish, irish and welsh club teams have to qualify to gain the right to play in the group stages of the champions league? for me this is exactly the same. not saying its right or wrong, but you cant have it both ways. looking at it from san morino's point of view, i think the comment made about monaco playing in a domestic league is valid. they would attract a better quality of player, attract a bigger fanbase in San Moreno and actually have a chance of winning a game. although if they as a nation wish to stay international, they should have that right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) They're an independent sovereign republic, why should they play in a domestic league? So they aren't utterly humiliated every game, and to stop other nations having to risk injuries against a team full of cloggers. I couldn't give a toss about all this underdog nonsense, the whole charade is a complete waste of time for both San Marino and the teams forced to play them. Seriously, what can San Marino possibly gain out of being beat 5 or 6 nil almost every single time they play? Being the continents whipping boys is never going to help them improve or develop. Edited October 13, 2012 by JonesyOAFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 So they aren't utterly humiliated every game, and to stop other nations having to risk injuries against a team full of cloggers. I couldn't give a toss about all this underdog nonsense, the whole charade is a complete waste of time for both San Marino and the teams forced to play them. Seriously, what can San Marino possibly gain out of being beat 5 or 6 nil almost every single time they play? Being the continents whipping boys is never going to help them improve or develop. Should non league clubs be barred from the F.A. Cup on the grounds they are hardly likely to win it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benja Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 NB. San Marino have a professional club that plays in the Italian domestic league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Should non league clubs be barred from the F.A. Cup on the grounds they are hardly likely to win it ? They earn the right to play in the FA Cup proper though, so that analogy brings us back to the preliminary argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 They earn the right to play in the FA Cup proper though, so that analogy brings us back to the preliminary argument. San Marino earn the right to play in tournaments by being members of EUFA and FIFA. If Sky had their way no doubt we'd have a dozen international sides playing each other in a league but I think it's better as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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